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jimb 04-17-2005 06:40 PM

ima bet on the underdog in this event....who want to place a bet wit me?

If this shit actually goes down.

Jim

dig420 04-17-2005 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
I will challenge kimbo to a 2 round 5 min a round MMA fight anytime he thinks he's ready.. anyone know how to get a hold of him tell him.. he beats me.. I will give him 50 grand... I beat him which I will .. he gives me 50k bottom line... anyone with any training beisides "back yard" street fighting will take him anyday no matter the size and I am here to prove that... I will have him tap out within the first 1 min of the fight I will bet another 10k on that....

I'm a blue belt from Gracie Academy, and I wouldn't fuck with that dude except in cases of extreme necessity. Even when you have your submissions working, big athletic guys are dangerous.

gecko 04-17-2005 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
I bet I'd recover from a choke much faster than getting my face beat in by Kimbo. I don't know how the rules were set up or when, I just think it was foolish for Gannon to take that fight at all. Like you said, he spent weeks in the hospital to beat a backyard brawler.

Beat he did win... and K1 was trying to get both of them for a ppv rematch. Anyone know what happened with that?

dig420 04-17-2005 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
I bet I'd recover from a choke much faster than getting my face beat in by Kimbo. I don't know how the rules were set up or when, I just think it was foolish for Gannon to take that fight at all. Like you said, he spent weeks in the hospital to beat a backyard brawler.

It was supposed to be a straight MMA match, Gannon would have won in a minute or so and not been hurt at all. Kimbo's buddies cheated, Gannon has mad heart and beat down Kimbo down in Kimbo's own style.

WarChild 04-17-2005 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gecko
Beat he did win... and K1 was trying to get both of them for a ppv rematch. Anyone know what happened with that?

Yeah he won, but he got beaten up and broke some bones in his face in the process. It's not like he won a $100,000 purse or really advanced his career at all. :2 cents:

gecko 04-17-2005 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420
I'm a blue belt from Gracie Academy, and I wouldn't fuck with that dude except in cases of extreme necessity. Even when you have your submissions working, big athletic guys are dangerous.

I agree, and it does sound like he does not have MMA fight experiece. Other then training on the ground.... As you know the fight start in the stand up posistion. Getting him down is another task of it's own

jimb 04-17-2005 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420
It was supposed to be a straight MMA match, Gannon would have won in a minute or so and not been hurt at all. Kimbo's buddies cheated, Gannon has mad heart and beat down Kimbo down in Kimbo's own style.

word.

Jim

DirtyDanza 04-17-2005 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew
What kind of fighting style do you know anyways? I remember you mentioned it a while back, but i dont remember.

The Gracie style of Jiu-Jitsu

WarChild 04-17-2005 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420
It was supposed to be a straight MMA match, Gannon would have won in a minute or so and not been hurt at all. Kimbo's buddies cheated, Gannon has mad heart and beat down Kimbo down in Kimbo's own style.

Agreed. It looked like Gannon had a great opportunity early on to slap on a guillotine choke and end it right away. Gannon sure has heart to take and win that fight like that, I'm just questioning how smart it was.

gecko 04-17-2005 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
Yeah he won, but he got beaten up and broke some bones in his face in the process. It's not like he won a $100,000 purse or really advanced his career at all. :2 cents:

I agree agree with those rules were a bad idea... I guess he wanted to shut up kimbo and wanted the bragging rights. Also trying to get his name out.

Who has not heard of gannon? :pimp

sonofsam 04-17-2005 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
Yeah he won, but he got beaten up and broke some bones in his face in the process. It's not like he won a $100,000 purse or really advanced his career at all. :2 cents:

however the status of beating kimbo is probably what he wanted :)

edit : oh and 50 underdogs :)

jimb 04-17-2005 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gecko
I agree, and it does sound like he does not have MMA fight experiece. Other then training on the ground.... As you know the fight start in the stand up posistion. Getting him down is another task of it's own

Anyone with 9.5 years of MMA experience would take down almost anyone with less than a year of MMA experience. That shit is crucial.

Jim

WarChild 04-17-2005 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
however the status of beating kimbo is probably what he wanted :)

edit : oh and 50 underdogs :)

That's the thing, there's very little status in it.

In professional fighting circles, beating Kimbo in a warehouse is next to worthless.

dig420 04-17-2005 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
Agreed. It looked like Gannon had a great opportunity early on to slap on a guillotine choke and end it right away. Gannon sure has heart to take and win that fight like that, I'm just questioning how smart it was.

It wasn't a bad idea. Kimbo had some buzz going and now all that buzz belongs to Gannon. I'd like to see him again, I think a lot of people are more interested in him now than they were before.

jimb 04-17-2005 06:48 PM

Kimbo is hyped....get some real fighters in the ring wit him and watch out Kimbo.

Jim

reynold 04-17-2005 06:48 PM

See sig. :)

DirtyDanza 04-17-2005 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420
I'm a blue belt from Gracie Academy, and I wouldn't fuck with that dude except in cases of extreme necessity. Even when you have your submissions working, big athletic guys are dangerous.

I am 3rd degree black and he may have just started training but as you know... if I can ever get a half gaurd on him then it's over for him.. bottom line... not saying he could not land a lucky punch on me and knock me silly.. thats very possiable... but it does not seem as his legs are in shape to kick.. nor does he have training to kick... granted he is tough.. but I am sure I can either pass him out or make him tap out... depends on the hold I get at the time... I am betting on a heel lock.. and twist

gecko 04-17-2005 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jimb
Anyone with 9.5 years of MMA experience would take down almost anyone with less than a year of MMA experience. That shit is crucial.

Jim

He mentioned 9.5 years of GJJ not 9.5 years of Mixed martial art... :upsidedow

Spunky 04-17-2005 06:49 PM

Do you have any clips of you fighting? Judging by some of those clips I seen with Kimbo you are fucking insane

WarChild 04-17-2005 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
I am 3rd degree black and he may have just started training but as you know... if I can ever get a half gaurd on him then it's over for him.. bottom line... not saying he could not land a lucky punch on me and knock me silly.. thats very possiable... but it does not seem as his legs are in shape to kick.. nor does he have training to kick... granted he is tough.. but I am sure I can either pass him out or make him tap out... depends on the hold I get at the time... I am betting on a heel lock.. and twist

I think Choke would be your very best bet. Big strong guys can often power out of submissions slapped on them by smaller/weaker guys.

Then there's guys like Forest Griffin. Had his arm broken in an arm bar, didn't tap out, knocked the guy out with his other arm instead.

gecko 04-17-2005 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
That's the thing, there's very little status in it.

In professional fighting circles, beating Kimbo in a warehouse is next to worthless.

If was enough to get intrests from k1

DirtyDanza 04-17-2005 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gecko
He mentioned 9.5 years of GJJ not 9.5 years of Mixed martial art... :upsidedow

4 years muat thai from master toddy here in Vegas... but I love ground fighting... I had my jaw busted once was wired for 4 months

http://www.gracieacademy.com/

http://mastertoddy.com/

WarChild 04-17-2005 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gecko
If was enough to get intrests from k1

You have a point there I suppose.

gecko 04-17-2005 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jimb
Kimbo is hyped....get some real fighters in the ring wit him and watch out Kimbo.

Jim

I agree with you there. Plus in the same weight class with mma rules and he has problems... hes like the bob sapp of street fighting

jonesy 04-17-2005 06:53 PM

if danza has 10 yrs of fighting experience - especially gracie style - i would bet on him

yes kimbo is tough mother fucker but a guy who has been trained to fight wins.

DirtyDanza 04-17-2005 06:53 PM

keep in mind I am not a violent person.. but I will do this to prove the fact that a street fighter will never beat someone who's trained bottom line... brawlers never beat boxers.. street fighters never beat someone trained.. granted I doubt any thing I threw at him punch wise or kick wise woule effect him much.. seems he has a steel jaw... but when we get on the ground it's over for him

DirtyDanza 04-17-2005 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy
if duke has 10 yrs of fighting experience - especially gracie style - i would bet on him

yes kimbo is tough mother fucker but a guy who has been trained to fight wins.


I am danza not duke

gecko 04-17-2005 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
4 years muat thai from master toddy here in Vegas... but I love ground fighting... I had my jaw busted once was wired for 4 months

http://www.gracieacademy.com/

http://mastertoddy.com/

Nice... :thumbsup

jonesy 04-17-2005 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
I am danza not duke

sorry danza - i chaged it -

by the way since kimba is in miami alot -and the bang/nasty crew - where/when would you fight him?

i think internext would be perfect - enough time to train for both of you

i have a place where it can be held.

gecko 04-17-2005 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gecko
I agree with you there. Plus in the same weight class with mma rules and he has problems... hes like the bob sapp of street fighting

This is bob sapp by the way

http://web-japan.org/kidsweb/cool/03-01-03/sapp1.jpg
http://www.bodybuildinguniverse.com/...p/bob-sapp.jpg

DirtyDanza 04-17-2005 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy
sorry danza - i chaged it -

by the way since kimba is in miami alot -and the bang/nasty crew - where/when would you fight him?

i think internext would be perfect - enough time to train for both of you

i have a place where it can be held.


we could do internext.. thats fine with me.. have to get with the florida state althetic commesion on it.. like I said I want it to be very legit.. none of his "hommies" running in everytime he starts to loose....

WarChild 04-17-2005 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
we could do internext.. thats fine with me.. have to get with the florida state althetic commesion on it.. like I said I want it to be very legit.. none of his "hommies" running in everytime he starts to loose....

Would FSAC sanction a fight with such a big difference in weight classes?

jonesy 04-17-2005 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
we could do internext.. thats fine with me.. have to get with the florida state althetic commesion on it.. like I said I want it to be very legit.. none of his "hommies" running in everytime he starts to loose....

i dont think florida ac will sanction that type of fight

but i do think it could be arranged that no "hommies" run in.

but if FAC ok'd the fight who would pay for the license, insurance ect ect?

DirtyDanza 04-17-2005 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
Would FSAC sanction a fight with such a big difference in weight classes?

I assume they would because my training makes up for my weight difference....

just wanted to add

I don't want people on here thinking I am a hardass which I am not.. I am prolly the most laid back guy on here... I just want to prove that a trained fighter will take the guy who everyone on here is calling a baddass

SomeCreep 04-17-2005 07:29 PM

Who the fuck is kimbo, that big black dude with the beard?

sonofsam 04-17-2005 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
I assume they would because my training makes up for my weight difference....

just wanted to add

I don't want people on here thinking I am a hardass which I am not.. I am prolly the most laid back guy on here... I just want to prove that a trained fighter will take the guy who everyone on here is calling a baddass

just curious but what are your opinions on street fighters vs trained people in street fight situations.. for example. you're at the bar... and get into a fight ?

WarChild 04-17-2005 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
just curious but what are your opinions on street fighters vs trained people in street fight situations.. for example. you're at the bar... and get into a fight ?

Fighting is 90% mental and only 10% phsyical. You keep your emotions under control, and you use your head. Doesn't matter where it takes places. :2 cents:

tical 04-17-2005 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
Fighting is 90% mental and only 10% phsyical. You keep your emotions under control, and you use your head. Doesn't matter where it takes places. :2 cents:

well there are bottles and chairs and tables and "homies" at bars too ;)

Platinumpimp 04-17-2005 07:47 PM

You are so getting owned Dirty_DS :1orglaugh

tical 04-17-2005 07:53 PM

damn there is like a 40lb difference here and it aint fat.. you've got some balls danza cuz the last thing I'd wanna hear is kimbo sayin "emmie get mah bred"

realistically though, no one is gonna put up 50k for a fight, some UFC guys don't even make anything close to 50k for their fights


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