On your blogs, have you noticed a conversion difference from giving away free content or linking straight to tours?

Curious as I build a network up how others are doing.

Funny this thread is bumped again.. This month I started doing something similar to this but with blogs insted of free sites.

I'm taking the same tried and tested method of build and submit free sites but with blogs instead. Originally I was building a blog a day but I decided to tone that back a bit and do one every other day. Reason I chose blogs over free sites, is because I like to know I control my traffic and not depend on submits.

I figure that's kind of an updated version of this sort of tactic. With the script I'm using I figure I can maintain about 60 blogs, 30 that are updated every three days and 30 that are updated daily. Which means 10 new posts per day then recycle old posts from my network for the daily blogs.

As it sits right now, this is a brand new network that doesn't trade any out side traffic and the blogs I've built so far only trade with a few of my other sites. So the network is a self generating traffic pool, eventually as it grows I'll trade outside my own network on a limited amount of sites kinda set up like hub sites to pull in fresh traffic.

Anyway long story made short I started doing it this month on the 3rd or 4th and have built 16 or 17 new blogs which all have a min of 4 posts but some as many as 8 at this point. So far I've made 8 confirmed sales from this network that I can track back to it. It's probably a little more because I can't track ccbill sales.

I started this project as a test to see if I could start from scratch with very little traffic and build something from it. So far I figure it's not doing to bad and once I start trading with some of my other sites they should start to take off.

Any way it's stuff like this that proves that if you are willing to work and do the grunt stuff day in and out, you can eventually start making some good money. See that's where most people fail, out of pure laziness or not staying focused.

This biz is really simple when it comes down to it, It's all about staying focused and doing it day in and out. Not sitting on GFY and half a dozen other boards all day wondering why you can't pay rent.

Amen! :thumbsup

On my blog network at the moment I'm using 1 main image linked to a FHG but the post text is linked directly to the tours. Then of course I have other direct links right to tours.

So I do believe "limited" amounts of content are the best set up. However it really depends on how your blog is set up to generate traffic IMO. If you only depend on SE traffic, I'd say link the images right to a tour.

However with my own network, the blogs are set up to trade traffic via toplists so I can generate as much network traffic as possible. So because of that I'm after book markers so I am linking to a gallery.

great thread :) hard to believe it's /that/ easy but mkay

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I've been dreaming about you today. And about the girl that I think I love... And about my new Mercedes


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wtf...... :error

seems TOO easy. . did you leave anything out? any other pointers you care to throw my way?

I hope you are right...

Um, so why not do 10 things a day?

Amateurs!

I made my first sale to AdultCheck (when they proudly boasted nearly 6000 sites in the network) before I had even finished the design.

He didn't leave anything out.

Spend all of your free time searching Google for scripts that might help you. But mainly don't sit on boards all day looking for a get rich quick scheme.

Work hard and work often.

Google for the Google patent and read it from start to finish skipping briefly over the parts where it shows data centers and how they technically work and such. Though there is some good reading in that stuff I guess pass over the physical structure stuff and work on reading the

"Process for indexing....."
"Process for giving trust..."
"Process for giving V_RocKs all he needs to know..."

Hit me up on Icq!

It's not that easy, but it's not that hard either. It's just basic stuff but the hard part is keeping it up day in and out. I mean if you think managing 50 or 60 blogs is easy well with the right script it's not hard but it does get old.

I'm not to the 60 point yet but I have around 20 or so total blogs and I do about 4 to 5 new posts per day on them. Even that gets old and boring but I figure it's better off to do original posts vs the crappy RSS feeds everyone else uses.

Now I will admit, that some of the domains I've used for these new blogs were older domains that I've had other stuff on. So some of them had a little SE traffic already but not a hell of a lot.

Anyway if I have a layout already made, I can have a new blog set up with it's first post and have the trade script installed and ready to go within 30 mins. I don't use word press I use Blog Organizer which is a paid script but it's worth it because I can admin as many blogs as I want from the same admin. I then use a free trade script sloth trader to trade traffic via toplists.

See most blogs don't trade traffic very well with other sites and most bloggers don't try to change this. Personally I treat my blogs like a TGP that trades traffic via hard links. So my layouts are built to trade traffic via toplists as I find that traffic just as important as SE traffic.

So because of this, when I add a new blog into my network of blogs it will normally have 100 uniques by the end of day one of traded traffic. Generally they will hover around that size for a week or so then they slowly start to grow.

Anyway between the older blogs I have and the new ones they normally range in size from 2500 to 100 uniques a day. Most of the new blogs I have are around 250-500 day at this point. My goal with the 50-60 blogs is simple.. It's hard to build a new site that trades traffic via "top list" (no skim) and get it to 100k daily uniques. So I know I can build blogs that can get 2k per day fairly easily. So 50 blogs x 2k a day is 100k traffic.

My goal was to take a fresh network of sites and turn it into 100k uniques daily traffic and do so with very little existing traffic. I'm trying to hit the 100k mark within 6 months time I'm into it about 20 days now. Anyway it's just to prove to myself that I could start fresh with almost nothing and build a good sized traffic network with no skimmed traffic.

So far after the first 20 days or so the blogs are around 10-12k daily traffic total so I'm 1/10th the way there. Of course that's not 10k uniques daily on the entire blog network because they all trade with each other. But counting uniques per blog and totaling them it's around 10-12k. As sites grow I'll bring in out side trades which will bring up the uniqe precentage across the whole network.

As a side note I've yet to submit the blogs to any link directories at this point. I wanted them to get a little age before I spam the link farms too much.

Thanks for the pointers. do you have any trouble with SEs from using dupe content? I had been contemplating something similar to this focusing on picking up some SE traffic on some terms Im pretty sure I can get high placement for on blogs, but keeping up with so many blogs on top of my current workload seemed like it might get tough... it would be easier if I could recycle posts after a while though.

croooooooooooooooooooooooooooocketttt

gee what a new concept ? will you be having one of those late night shows at 2 AM selling this system for 200 dollars to people ?

so you have 20 different domain names?

V_Rocks- Do you create your freesites on a new seperate domain or are you using sub directories?

Everything gets it own domain.

However, I used to use subdomains or directories.

And occasionally I still use directories...

awesome thread. :)

V ---I dont see your network of sites within rhinosgirls?
trying to peep this

I just change the titles and maybe a word here or there in the posts but I'm not really doing too much hard link trades among my own sites. Just scripted traffic trades on the top lists.

We should trade some links in the future.. I'm set up much the same way.

500/day to a 4 week old blog? That seems wayyy too high imo......

500 a day into a new blog is normal.

tell me how to make over 30k a month and i will take notice....

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You can get that much a day just off hahahahahahahahahaha and the term 'next door nikki' :winkwink:

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wtf, t e c h n o r a t i is a banned word?

It just depends on the network of sites you plug it into. Right now my new group of sites (these blogs) are all supporting each other. So I don't worry if one can't repay the others because they are all mine so the traffic is mine requardless of which site sens out the most or the least.

So because of that, I can add a new site into the network and it will be on average 100 uniques within 24 hours. Normally the sites will hover in the 80 -150 range for the next week and slowly start pulling their own weight within the network. Of course a new site isn't going to pay back the network right away but it doesn't matter.

If you sit back and wait for google to send you all your traffic, then sure you will likely be waiting more than 4 weeks to get 500 a day. If you actively work on other traffic sources then you wouldn't think 500/day is too much for a 4 week old blog.

work....

wow, thread of the month, well if it wasnt old...:)

didn't you know everything old is new again?

Sure is heh :)

I must admit this actualy work :)

Crockett, I had basiclly the same idea. I have a few questions if you dont mind.

Do you subdomains or does each blog gets it own domain?

How much are you making with 10k to 12k in traffic, and how much do you expect to make with 100k?

Can I see an example of one of your blogs?

Any other tips for a noob like me?

I have more blogs than just the ones listed in my sig.

Thanks to everyone in the thread, good read :thumbsup

Still relevant today?
 

V -

I'm a noob ...is what you posted at the beginning of this thread still relevant today - or is there an updated version of it?

Thanks...

J1

very cool thread!

everything old is made new again, whewwww... gotta love that statement! ;)

peace

Something doesn't sound right about this. If this were true, everyone would be doing it. And trading with toplists? Toplist traffic SUCKS. There has to be some other way you are getting your traffic than that and SE.

I think he means He is using toplists to trade within his own blog network

I know. But I find it hard to believe it's bringing him any money.

Why not just update ONE blog 60 times a day instead? Or would that not work? I do realize that each blog should be a different niche.

because a blog updating 60 times a day will most likely get banned by any RSS sites for spamming and can you imagine how hard it would be to keep up with a blog that updates that much if you're a reader...

But crockett isn't using RSS Feeds. I think most people suggest not using RSS feeds right? Creating text yourself brings more traffic? I honestly don't know, I don't own a blog yet. But am in the process of starting since I read this thread. The "keeping up with updates" makes sense... I forgot about bookmarked surfers. I was just thinking of new people finding the blog.

yeah crockett isn't using rss but he's also not updating 1 blog 60 times. ask anyone what they think about that and you'll get "LOL"

Hey don't I know you from somewhere, WF maybe? :winkwink:

This is total bullshit and those who know the truth or can use common sense will see it as that.

Can you make $50,000 a year in your second year? If you are still here and done it right yes. But it's not easy, otherwise the survival rate would be a lot higher and sponsors would not be so desperate to con newbies into sending them meagre amounts of traffic.

This is how tough it is to make this kind of money. Minimum payouts are set as low as possible so that people make $100 a week can get some money.

This industry is based on a model of a few affiliates with the traffic getting lots of signs up, a LOT of affiliates with little traffic getting very little. The sponsors do everything they can to support newbies send traffic, knowing most will fail.

If the above was true why have outside traffic generation? Just stick people in your own premises driving traffic. Approve all people who sign up as an affiliate, set minimum payouts to $500. Totally reduce the support to outside affiliates.

By doing this sponsors control their own traffic, they own it, they do not spend thousands on supporting the vast numbers of little guys. The in house people can't learn and leave to become self employed affiliates. They have no traffic and the majority of good programs will not take them on.

If you think you can get a newbie up to 1 sign up a day in a month and two sign ups a day in 2 months hit me up on ICQ. I live in a university city and can employ people for $30 a day who speak good English.

How many will talk me up on this. Sponsors or affiliates.

No they know the truth of the odds of a newbie making it today are very slim. It's very tough to make it, you have to work hard, learn everything you can, try different things, find programs that work for you and be prepared for a long hard slog.

Never assume that the affiliates you see here are the majority and as well off as they make out. They are the minority who survived. Few make more than $50,000 a year.

If you think you can get a newbie up to 1 sign up a day in a month and two sign ups a day in 2 months hit me up on ICQ. I live in a university city and can employ people for $30 a day who speak good English.

How many will talk me up on this. Sponsors or affiliates.

Did some common sense kill a thread on GFY?

This is how easy or tough it is to reach $50,000 a year. At $30 a sign up that's 1666 a year, 5 a day.

Look around you at all the programs scrambling to get traffic and affiliates. Doing what ever to get affiliates to send traffic, look what support they offer, payouts, money on ads on GFY and other boards, stands and parties at shows.

Instead they can stick a lot of students in a room, pay them minimum wage or the least they can and not run an affiliate program at all.

The industry model is the opposite, they do everything to get a hundreds drive a few sign ups with maximum support.

What I'm wondering is what is V Rocks selling?

Anyone want university students to work in house for $5 an hour hit me up on ICQ. It's been very quiet so far.

Paul Markham, do you think it's possible with blogs though? By creating one a day? Or do you think that too isn't possible? After reading your posts here, this is why I just find any of what they are saying can be possible. I think v-rocks and crockett are doing something we don't know in addition to what they said.