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EdgeXXX 01-08-2006 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs
Upadte, I now do $12K a month... If you are still picking your ass, get with the program and start creating shit.


Uh huh.... and how many sites have you put out there?

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Krille 03-18-2006 09:16 AM

bump for $10k a month

BlackCrayon 03-18-2006 10:04 AM

just off free sites? i don't know, the traffic isn't what it used to be. by which im not talking quality but quantity...but i guess the quality is typically better than tgps. but just check out another board that focuses on linklists and it seems like there are many people there who submit daily and don't make much of anything.

woj 03-18-2006 10:08 AM

if it was that easy everyone would be making $10k/month which we all know is not the case...

Basic_man 03-18-2006 10:10 AM

Thanks for the tip.. Now I'm gonna be RICH!

elitetec 03-18-2006 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj
if it was that easy everyone would be making $10k/month which we all know is not the case...

and if it really did work why would he give his way out for free

will76 03-18-2006 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs
1) Start by making free sites.... Shit SE's will like.
2) Keep doing so...
3) Stop asking how I can make $10K in a month and ask, how can I make 1 sale a week from what I did today. If you cannot make 1 sale a week on what you did today, find another fucking job man.
4) Disregard following rule #1 since you can do it on posted galleries or what ever the fuck you do. But just make sure to make 1 thing a day that will sell once a week for a long time.

If you follow this simple fucking shit, here is what week 1 to 51 will look like.

0
140
280
420
560
700
840
980
1120
1260
1400
1540
1372
1512
1652
1792
1932
2072
2212
2352
2492
2632
2772
2912
2469.6
2609.6
2749.6
2889.6
3029.6
3169.6
3309.6
3449.6
3589.6
3729.6
3869.6
4009.6
3347.68
3487.68
3627.68
3767.68
3907.68
4047.68
4187.68
4327.68
4467.68
4607.68
4747.68
4887.68
4050.144
4190.144
4330.144

It is adjusted for an .08% dip every 3 months because you will undoubtly fuck up here and there.

1 sale a week from what you did today. 1 Year you will be making $120,000 a year.

Have a nice day.

ok now everyone needs to clue him in on slow downs :1orglaugh

thats a simple, good plan you have there. Along the same lines you don't need to make all your money doing one thing, you can make 5 sales from 10 - 15 different things.

AndyWoods Is A Crook 03-18-2006 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultNex
Too bad it takes weeks before you get your freesite listed (only a handful actually list in a few days).


I had some awesome results.
All the free sites i use get listed in a few days
And been that way for about 6 months now. I guess they love the revenue they make from adsense:1orglaugh

jrap 03-18-2006 07:50 PM

My tip is make blogs and actually write text. Each entry should target one or two keywords, and be over 300 words. It takes time, but it's worth it folks. Forget about rss2blog, in the long run, unique content wins out.

Blogster 03-18-2006 08:46 PM

very interesting thread.. before i knew gfy, i was doing $1.5k / week with clickcash after my 2nd / 3nd month.. thats some years ago now. but i had to work really hard.
then i had a big drop in sales because i couldnt work anylonger because of personal reasons. but i am back :>

Greg B 03-18-2006 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicardoB
It can vary depending on what you're starting out with, but even with a big fat zero for a budget you can do this.

Hosting: use sponsor freehosting
Traffic: submit your ass off

The only true investment you always require is time.

Submit to who? SE's? Don't that take money and time or are you talking about link lists?

Greg B 03-18-2006 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arealnewbie
V RocKs - intelligent, informative and most of all, ingenius!

This thread was a major eye opener for me.
Thanks :thumbsup

iwantchixx - ditto

Quite possibly the most educational thread I've seen here in a long time. Kudos to you both on your efforts and FREE advice.

You can say that again. Every tip helps. Don't know how it would apply to a cartoon site like mine but it's nice to see the various successful strategies others use.

V_RocKs 03-27-2007 09:33 AM

Moving on to 30K...

fuzebox 03-27-2007 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 12155292)
Moving on to 30K...

No ways... congrats :thumbsup

nikki99 03-27-2007 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rorschach (Post 7441160)
summary:
1) build lots of shit
2) build lots more shit
3) repeat

agreed :glugglug

V_RocKs 03-27-2007 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 9497002)
ok now everyone needs to clue him in on slow downs :1orglaugh

thats a simple, good plan you have there. Along the same lines you don't need to make all your money doing one thing, you can make 5 sales from 10 - 15 different things.

It was adjusted for slow downs...

One thing it isn't adjusted for though is speed ups...

As in you speed up or you just happen to find favor with a particular SE and hit bonus months which I did over and over again.

V_RocKs 03-27-2007 03:10 PM

BTW... When I say free sites I don't mean 2 galleries a front page and submitting to link lists... To find out what I mean you can easily do some digging.

All of my traffic is SE traffic.

Most of my linking is within my own network.

Meorazhar 03-27-2007 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs
BTW... When I say free sites I don't mean 2 galleries a front page and submitting to link lists... To find out what I mean you can easily do some digging.

Thanks for the nice read v_rocks. It's been about one year since i first saw it and it definitely helped me to advance from where i had been. But despite all digging your meaning of the free sites is still eluding me.

May i ask you to give me a hint? ;)

dynastoned 03-27-2007 09:34 PM

it's all about work. learning how to make productive sites. finding good sponsors. and finally automation.

Houdini 03-27-2007 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 12157177)
BTW... When I say free sites I don't mean 2 galleries a front page and submitting to link lists... To find out what I mean you can easily do some digging.

All of my traffic is SE traffic.

Most of my linking is within my own network.


On your blogs, have you noticed a conversion difference from giving away free content or linking straight to tours?

Curious as I build a network up how others are doing.

crockett 03-27-2007 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 12157177)
BTW... When I say free sites I don't mean 2 galleries a front page and submitting to link lists... To find out what I mean you can easily do some digging.

All of my traffic is SE traffic.

Most of my linking is within my own network.

Funny this thread is bumped again.. This month I started doing something similar to this but with blogs insted of free sites.

I'm taking the same tried and tested method of build and submit free sites but with blogs instead. Originally I was building a blog a day but I decided to tone that back a bit and do one every other day. Reason I chose blogs over free sites, is because I like to know I control my traffic and not depend on submits.

I figure that's kind of an updated version of this sort of tactic. With the script I'm using I figure I can maintain about 60 blogs, 30 that are updated every three days and 30 that are updated daily. Which means 10 new posts per day then recycle old posts from my network for the daily blogs.

As it sits right now, this is a brand new network that doesn't trade any out side traffic and the blogs I've built so far only trade with a few of my other sites. So the network is a self generating traffic pool, eventually as it grows I'll trade outside my own network on a limited amount of sites kinda set up like hub sites to pull in fresh traffic.

Anyway long story made short I started doing it this month on the 3rd or 4th and have built 16 or 17 new blogs which all have a min of 4 posts but some as many as 8 at this point. So far I've made 8 confirmed sales from this network that I can track back to it. It's probably a little more because I can't track ccbill sales.

I started this project as a test to see if I could start from scratch with very little traffic and build something from it. So far I figure it's not doing to bad and once I start trading with some of my other sites they should start to take off.

Any way it's stuff like this that proves that if you are willing to work and do the grunt stuff day in and out, you can eventually start making some good money. See that's where most people fail, out of pure laziness or not staying focused.

This biz is really simple when it comes down to it, It's all about staying focused and doing it day in and out. Not sitting on GFY and half a dozen other boards all day wondering why you can't pay rent.

sake 03-27-2007 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 12158990)
This biz is really simple when it comes down to it, It's all about staying focused and doing it day in and out. Not sitting on GFY and half a dozen other boards all day wondering why you can't pay rent.

Amen! :thumbsup

crockett 03-27-2007 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houdini (Post 12158825)
On your blogs, have you noticed a conversion difference from giving away free content or linking straight to tours?

Curious as I build a network up how others are doing.

On my blog network at the moment I'm using 1 main image linked to a FHG but the post text is linked directly to the tours. Then of course I have other direct links right to tours.

So I do believe "limited" amounts of content are the best set up. However it really depends on how your blog is set up to generate traffic IMO. If you only depend on SE traffic, I'd say link the images right to a tour.

However with my own network, the blogs are set up to trade traffic via toplists so I can generate as much network traffic as possible. So because of that I'm after book markers so I am linking to a gallery.

JD 03-27-2007 10:49 PM

great thread :) hard to believe it's /that/ easy but mkay

polish_aristocrat 03-27-2007 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 12159040)
great thread :) hard to believe it's /that/ easy but mkay

:eek7

I've been dreaming about you today. And about the girl that I think I love... And about my new Mercedes


:eek7

JD 03-27-2007 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 12159170)
:eek7

I've been dreaming about you today. And about the girl that I think I love... And about my new Mercedes


:eek7

wtf...... :error

Ayla_SquareTurtle 03-28-2007 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 12158990)
Funny this thread is bumped again.. This month I started doing something similar to this but with blogs insted of free sites.

I'm taking the same tried and tested method of build and submit free sites but with blogs instead. Originally I was building a blog a day but I decided to tone that back a bit and do one every other day. Reason I chose blogs over free sites, is because I like to know I control my traffic and not depend on submits.

I figure that's kind of an updated version of this sort of tactic. With the script I'm using I figure I can maintain about 60 blogs, 30 that are updated every three days and 30 that are updated daily. Which means 10 new posts per day then recycle old posts from my network for the daily blogs.

As it sits right now, this is a brand new network that doesn't trade any out side traffic and the blogs I've built so far only trade with a few of my other sites. So the network is a self generating traffic pool, eventually as it grows I'll trade outside my own network on a limited amount of sites kinda set up like hub sites to pull in fresh traffic.

Anyway long story made short I started doing it this month on the 3rd or 4th and have built 16 or 17 new blogs which all have a min of 4 posts but some as many as 8 at this point. So far I've made 8 confirmed sales from this network that I can track back to it. It's probably a little more because I can't track ccbill sales.

I started this project as a test to see if I could start from scratch with very little traffic and build something from it. So far I figure it's not doing to bad and once I start trading with some of my other sites they should start to take off.

Any way it's stuff like this that proves that if you are willing to work and do the grunt stuff day in and out, you can eventually start making some good money. See that's where most people fail, out of pure laziness or not staying focused.

This biz is really simple when it comes down to it, It's all about staying focused and doing it day in and out. Not sitting on GFY and half a dozen other boards all day wondering why you can't pay rent.

seems TOO easy. . did you leave anything out? any other pointers you care to throw my way?

zibril 03-28-2007 01:41 AM

I hope you are right...

Voodoo 03-28-2007 01:44 AM

Um, so why not do 10 things a day?

Amateurs!

RedShoe 03-28-2007 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 7440744)
are you kidding? Someone can make $140 in their second week in the business?
and $1,440 in their first month?

Ask people how long it took before they see any money and many say it took a month, some even 2 or 3 months before they make a sale

I made my first sale to AdultCheck (when they proudly boasted nearly 6000 sites in the network) before I had even finished the design.

V_RocKs 03-28-2007 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_AAA (Post 12159428)
seems TOO easy. . did you leave anything out? any other pointers you care to throw my way?

He didn't leave anything out.

Spend all of your free time searching Google for scripts that might help you. But mainly don't sit on boards all day looking for a get rich quick scheme.

Work hard and work often.

Google for the Google patent and read it from start to finish skipping briefly over the parts where it shows data centers and how they technically work and such. Though there is some good reading in that stuff I guess pass over the physical structure stuff and work on reading the

"Process for indexing....."
"Process for giving trust..."
"Process for giving V_RocKs all he needs to know..."

HouseHead 03-28-2007 03:42 AM

Hit me up on Icq!

crockett 03-28-2007 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_AAA (Post 12159428)
seems TOO easy. . did you leave anything out? any other pointers you care to throw my way?

It's not that easy, but it's not that hard either. It's just basic stuff but the hard part is keeping it up day in and out. I mean if you think managing 50 or 60 blogs is easy well with the right script it's not hard but it does get old.

I'm not to the 60 point yet but I have around 20 or so total blogs and I do about 4 to 5 new posts per day on them. Even that gets old and boring but I figure it's better off to do original posts vs the crappy RSS feeds everyone else uses.

Now I will admit, that some of the domains I've used for these new blogs were older domains that I've had other stuff on. So some of them had a little SE traffic already but not a hell of a lot.

Anyway if I have a layout already made, I can have a new blog set up with it's first post and have the trade script installed and ready to go within 30 mins. I don't use word press I use Blog Organizer which is a paid script but it's worth it because I can admin as many blogs as I want from the same admin. I then use a free trade script sloth trader to trade traffic via toplists.

See most blogs don't trade traffic very well with other sites and most bloggers don't try to change this. Personally I treat my blogs like a TGP that trades traffic via hard links. So my layouts are built to trade traffic via toplists as I find that traffic just as important as SE traffic.

So because of this, when I add a new blog into my network of blogs it will normally have 100 uniques by the end of day one of traded traffic. Generally they will hover around that size for a week or so then they slowly start to grow.

Anyway between the older blogs I have and the new ones they normally range in size from 2500 to 100 uniques a day. Most of the new blogs I have are around 250-500 day at this point. My goal with the 50-60 blogs is simple.. It's hard to build a new site that trades traffic via "top list" (no skim) and get it to 100k daily uniques. So I know I can build blogs that can get 2k per day fairly easily. So 50 blogs x 2k a day is 100k traffic.

My goal was to take a fresh network of sites and turn it into 100k uniques daily traffic and do so with very little existing traffic. I'm trying to hit the 100k mark within 6 months time I'm into it about 20 days now. Anyway it's just to prove to myself that I could start fresh with almost nothing and build a good sized traffic network with no skimmed traffic.

So far after the first 20 days or so the blogs are around 10-12k daily traffic total so I'm 1/10th the way there. Of course that's not 10k uniques daily on the entire blog network because they all trade with each other. But counting uniques per blog and totaling them it's around 10-12k. As sites grow I'll bring in out side trades which will bring up the uniqe precentage across the whole network.

As a side note I've yet to submit the blogs to any link directories at this point. I wanted them to get a little age before I spam the link farms too much.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 03-28-2007 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 12159973)
It's not that easy, but it's not that hard either. It's just basic stuff but the hard part is keeping it up day in and out. I mean if you think managing 50 or 60 blogs is easy well with the right script it's not hard but it does get old.

I'm not to the 60 point yet but I have around 20 or so total blogs and I do about 4 to 5 new posts per day on them. Even that gets old and boring but I figure it's better off to do original posts vs the crappy RSS feeds everyone else uses.

Now I will admit, that some of the domains I've used for these new blogs were older domains that I've had other stuff on. So some of them had a little SE traffic already but not a hell of a lot.

Anyway if I have a layout already made, I can have a new blog set up with it's first post and have the trade script installed and ready to go within 30 mins. I don't use word press I use Blog Organizer which is a paid script but it's worth it because I can admin as many blogs as I want from the same admin. I then use a free trade script sloth trader to trade traffic via toplists.

See most blogs don't trade traffic very well with other sites and most bloggers don't try to change this. Personally I treat my blogs like a TGP that trades traffic via hard links. So my layouts are built to trade traffic via toplists as I find that traffic just as important as SE traffic.

So because of this, when I add a new blog into my network of blogs it will normally have 100 uniques by the end of day one of traded traffic. Generally they will hover around that size for a week or so then they slowly start to grow.

Anyway between the older blogs I have and the new ones they normally range in size from 2500 to 100 uniques a day. Most of the new blogs I have are around 250-500 day at this point. My goal with the 50-60 blogs is simple.. It's hard to build a new site that trades traffic via "top list" (no skim) and get it to 100k daily uniques. So I know I can build blogs that can get 2k per day fairly easily. So 50 blogs x 2k a day is 100k traffic.

My goal was to take a fresh network of sites and turn it into 100k uniques daily traffic and do so with very little existing traffic. I'm trying to hit the 100k mark within 6 months time I'm into it about 20 days now. Anyway it's just to prove to myself that I could start fresh with almost nothing and build a good sized traffic network with no skimmed traffic.

So far after the first 20 days or so the blogs are around 10-12k daily traffic total so I'm 1/10th the way there. Of course that's not 10k uniques daily on the entire blog network because they all trade with each other. But counting uniques per blog and totaling them it's around 10-12k. As sites grow I'll bring in out side trades which will bring up the uniqe precentage across the whole network.

As a side note I've yet to submit the blogs to any link directories at this point. I wanted them to get a little age before I spam the link farms too much.

Thanks for the pointers. do you have any trouble with SEs from using dupe content? I had been contemplating something similar to this focusing on picking up some SE traffic on some terms Im pretty sure I can get high placement for on blogs, but keeping up with so many blogs on top of my current workload seemed like it might get tough... it would be easier if I could recycle posts after a while though.

JD 03-28-2007 02:18 PM

croooooooooooooooooooooooooooocketttt

Azoy? 03-28-2007 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 7438073)
1) Start by making free sites.... Shit SE's will like.
2) Keep doing so...
3) Stop asking how I can make $10K in a month and ask, how can I make 1 sale a week from what I did today. If you cannot make 1 sale a week on what you did today, find another fucking job man.
4) Disregard following rule #1 since you can do it on posted galleries or what ever the fuck you do. But just make sure to make 1 thing a day that will sell once a week for a long time.

If you follow this simple fucking shit, here is what week 1 to 51 will look like.

0
140
280
420
560
700
840
980
1120
1260
1400
1540
1372
1512
1652
1792
1932
2072
2212
2352
2492
2632
2772
2912
2469.6
2609.6
2749.6
2889.6
3029.6
3169.6
3309.6
3449.6
3589.6
3729.6
3869.6
4009.6
3347.68
3487.68
3627.68
3767.68
3907.68
4047.68
4187.68
4327.68
4467.68
4607.68
4747.68
4887.68
4050.144
4190.144
4330.144

It is adjusted for an .08% dip every 3 months because you will undoubtly fuck up here and there.

1 sale a week from what you did today. 1 Year you will be making $120,000 a year.

Have a nice day.


gee what a new concept ? will you be having one of those late night shows at 2 AM selling this system for 200 dollars to people ?

iguess 03-28-2007 02:28 PM

so you have 20 different domain names?

Nismo 03-28-2007 02:28 PM

V_Rocks- Do you create your freesites on a new seperate domain or are you using sub directories?

V_RocKs 03-28-2007 02:44 PM

Everything gets it own domain.

However, I used to use subdomains or directories.

And occasionally I still use directories...


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