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Paul Markham 04-16-2007 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 12260263)
Paul Markham, do you think it's possible with blogs though? By creating one a day? Or do you think that too isn't possible? After reading your posts here, this is why I just find any of what they are saying can be possible. I think v-rocks and crockett are doing something we don't know in addition to what they said.

Think about it and use some logic.

It's possible to create a blog a day and automate the feed of text. In fact you can do cut and paste for a lot of it. But after a while it's going to start repeating.

Big question is does it work and what's the secret that makes sponsor give all this easy work to affiliates who are earning so much money? I have as much knowledge about blogs as the average newbie, I can write good text. It's not tough.

So why are all the sponsors giving out all this easy work to people earning $120,000 when they could take it all in house and not have the affiliate system? In fact it would be a lot cheaper.

Simple truth is in general most affiliates make and cost less than an in house guys would. Simple rules of business, the present system was not built because it's the least suitable.

Nicky 04-16-2007 03:54 AM

A fact is a fact, if you can build something daily that will generate 1 sale per week for a year, that scheme is true. period

crockett 04-16-2007 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 12259220)
yeah crockett isn't using rss but he's also not updating 1 blog 60 times. ask anyone what they think about that and you'll get "LOL"


lol yea I don't update 1 blog 60 times a day. :helpme

Right now I have about 20 blogs and they are each updated once every 3 to 4 days, A few are updated more often.

Anyway not including the blogs I had already, but the new ones I made last month are now doing over 12-15k a day. With the original 4 blogs I already had it's something like 20k day. The goal is to hit 100k daily uniques out of this network in 6 months with out feeding it a bunch of out side feeder traffic. I'm on the 2nd month now. As a side note I still haven't submitted then to any blog directories or done any hard link trades.

I did slack this last week and didn't get many updates done, that and I haven't added any new sites this month so far. I've been working on another site of mine with a new layout that and I've been fixing some of the issues I had on my original wordpress blogs. I'm hoping to get back on the ball this week.

crockett 04-16-2007 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 12260327)
Think about it and use some logic.

It's possible to create a blog a day and automate the feed of text. In fact you can do cut and paste for a lot of it. But after a while it's going to start repeating.

Big question is does it work and what's the secret that makes sponsor give all this easy work to affiliates who are earning so much money? I have as much knowledge about blogs as the average newbie, I can write good text. It's not tough.

So why are all the sponsors giving out all this easy work to people earning $120,000 when they could take it all in house and not have the affiliate system? In fact it would be a lot cheaper.

Simple truth is in general most affiliates make and cost less than an in house guys would. Simple rules of business, the present system was not built because it's the least suitable.


Well I'm not going to say it's a 10k a month deal for anyone. However I can tell you most sponsors don't have a clue as to how to run free sites much less generate traffic on them.

I think the main issue as to why people don't make money in this biz, is due to not taking the time to learn before they jump right in and not keeping up with the grind on a daily basis.

Too many of them think they will just sit around the house all day doing nothing then work 30 mins a day and make mad bling. Lack of dedication is why most don't make any money and no posting on GFY isn't dedication or working.. :winkwink:

I wont say 10k a month is doable specially not in the first year unless you are damn lucky or have something else up your sleeve, I think that's a bit far fetched in this day and age on the net. I do think 2 to 3k a month is very doable the first year if they work.

Walrus 04-17-2007 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 12260339)
A fact is a fact, if you can build something daily that will generate 1 sale per week for a year, that scheme is true. period


Hmm. Hard to tell who's got the right info and who doesn't. But why would V-Rocks give bad info like that? What would have have to gain by doing so? I think I'm more apt to believe, V-Rocks, crockett, et al than I am Paul Markham. Paul, no offense to you. Maybe you're just a pessimist.

Jace 04-17-2007 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 12271281)
Hmm. Hard to tell who's got the right info and who doesn't. But why would V-Rocks give bad info like that? What would have have to gain by doing so? I think I'm more apt to believe, V-Rocks, crockett, et al than I am Paul Markham. Paul, no offense to you. Maybe you're just a pessimist.

Paul Markham is a total idiot, don't listen to anything he says

and, I can vouche that v_rocks and crockett know their shit

times have changed a bit since 2005 though, but if you have enough knowledge of the industry, the tools provided and the paysites around you can easily mold all of the info from this thread into a successful business

maxjohan 04-17-2007 10:01 PM

This thread delivers tenfold!

:thumbsup

GAMEFINEST 04-17-2007 11:16 PM

freesites and blogs....yep yep

nation-x 04-18-2007 06:21 AM

I like money

jwoodz 04-18-2007 06:29 AM

me too....

Walrus 04-18-2007 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12271417)
Paul Markham is a total idiot, don't listen to anything he says

and, I can vouche that v_rocks and crockett know their shit

times have changed a bit since 2005 though, but if you have enough knowledge of the industry, the tools provided and the paysites around you can easily mold all of the info from this thread into a successful business

I see. I think that if you can make $10k a month on a 60 blog network (with crockett's hidden tricks) that anyone can make $3k a month by just solely having a 60 blog network (with no tricks at all). Would make sense. In that case, $3k a month ain't so bad... Just update 30 blogs every day, and 60 every other day. Have nice blog theme designs. Choose girls/sponsors that convert. Am I right?

I'm not sure why you can't trade with others though. Why does crockett not want to do that?

crockett 04-18-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 12277194)
I see. I think that if you can make $10k a month on a 60 blog network (with crockett's hidden tricks) that anyone can make $3k a month by just solely having a 60 blog network (with no tricks at all). Would make sense. In that case, $3k a month ain't so bad... Just update 30 blogs every day, and 60 every other day. Have nice blog theme designs. Choose girls/sponsors that convert. Am I right?

I'm not sure why you can't trade with others though. Why does crockett not want to do that?

I rever said I'm not trading with anyone else. What I said is I trade internally only with my own sites when they are new. As they grow a bit, then I add outside trades.

It's no use trying to do outside trades when a new site can't send out much in return, the trade would never survive. Once the site can send out 50 to 100 hits a day to the top trades then I start looking for out side trades.

It's just a lot tougher to build no skim sites, so I choose to do it in bulk.

Also I don't make 10k a month.

Walrus 04-18-2007 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 12277225)
I rever said I'm not trading with anyone else. What I said is I trade internally only with my own sites when they are new. As they grow a bit, then I add outside trades.

It's no use trying to do outside trades when a new site can't send out much in return, the trade would never survive. Once the site can send out 50 to 100 hits a day to the top trades then I start looking for out side trades.

It's just a lot tougher to build no skim sites, so I choose to do it in bulk.

Also I don't make 10k a month.

Oh, okay. Thanks for clarifying that, crockett. I didn't mean to say that you did make $10k. I meant that IF you eventually do... then I don't see how $3k a month is unattainable. And V-rocks and others are making that...

Walrus 05-30-2007 03:34 PM

Have no idea how any of you get 400-500 uniques a day after just one month without building any backlinks. You must be updating 20x times a day with very long blog posts or something. I don't get it.

tranza 05-30-2007 03:39 PM

Who bumped this??

V_RocKs 05-30-2007 05:47 PM

Paul Markham everybody... the guy who said he was getting insane sales and rebills from a site that didn't have a working billing form...

I now average over 20K a month... Getting it to 30K is probably going to be a mixture of things.... I am growing more and more lazy because I have so much easy money coming in that I don't need to work much anymore...

The basics are still just as basic as always... You have to work and use your noodle... There are so many free ways to figure out where peoples traffic is coming from that it is mind boggling that people still make less than 2K a month... or week....

A guy I met and who posting in this thread earlier got together and did some shit.... That shit was kinda easy.... Most of it was a copied idea as far as the business model went.... We copied what someone else was doing as best we could to see if we could make any money....

Now that simple network we made does $160,000 a year.... An extra $80K each just for paying attention.... Pretty much all white hat techniques... What the guy was doing is right in front of everyones faces.... Why didn't I see this back in 2003 when I started?

What was this thing? Fuck you, I am not an open book and I have told you plenty already.... Crocket gave you a roadmap to blogging success... Jace has posted tons on blogging....

If you people can't make money it is possibly because you were not destined to make money.... Think about it... Why would GFY be any different than any other job you worked at with a lower pay scale then other people have?

If you are not ready to throw in the towel and make 4K month for life, read a lot... And then apply what you read to new projects.... But if you think you will get rich quick.... keep dreaming...

Nicky 05-30-2007 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 12515973)
Paul Markham everybody... the guy who said he was getting insane sales and rebills from a site that didn't have a working billing form...

I now average over 20K a month... Getting it to 30K is probably going to be a mixture of things.... I am growing more and more lazy because I have so much easy money coming in that I don't need to work much anymore...

The basics are still just as basic as always... You have to work and use your noodle... There are so many free ways to figure out where peoples traffic is coming from that it is mind boggling that people still make less than 2K a month... or week....

A guy I met and who posting in this thread earlier got together and did some shit.... That shit was kinda easy.... Most of it was a copied idea as far as the business model went.... We copied what someone else was doing as best we could to see if we could make any money....

Now that simple network we made does $160,000 a year.... An extra $80K each just for paying attention.... Pretty much all white hat techniques... What the guy was doing is right in front of everyones faces.... Why didn't I see this back in 2003 when I started?

What was this thing? Fuck you, I am not an open book and I have told you plenty already.... Crocket gave you a roadmap to blogging success... Jace has posted tons on blogging....

If you people can't make money it is possibly because you were not destined to make money.... Think about it... Why would GFY be any different than any other job you worked at with a lower pay scale then other people have?

If you are not ready to throw in the towel and make 4K month for life, read a lot... And then apply what you read to new projects.... But if you think you will get rich quick.... keep dreaming...

Well said man

Nicky 05-31-2007 09:03 AM

Bump for some inspiration :)

Spicoli 05-31-2007 10:56 AM

bump for a 2 year old thread,:thumbsup

:thumbsuphappy b-day!!!:thumbsup

Spicoli 05-31-2007 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 12515973)
Paul Markham everybody... the guy who said he was getting insane sales and rebills from a site that didn't have a working billing form...

I now average over 20K a month... Getting it to 30K is probably going to be a mixture of things.... I am growing more and more lazy because I have so much easy money coming in that I don't need to work much anymore...

But if you think you will get rich quick.... keep dreaming...

thx for inspring a noob Paul :thumbsup
you got any interest in teaching someone how to fish??? :winkwink:
just to quote an old adage.

tranza 05-31-2007 11:01 AM

This thread is useless.... Quit bumping it.

teenytricia 06-17-2007 06:24 AM

Who can live off of 120k a year in this country??

Marshal 06-17-2007 06:38 AM

please stop bumping old threads...

Cash 06-17-2007 11:47 AM

Those numbers are for SE traffic...

Walrus 06-18-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cash (Post 12613575)
Those numbers are for SE traffic...

Which numbers?

NTSS 06-18-2007 09:16 PM

Damn this is old!!! wtf?

V_RocKs 06-18-2007 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NTSS (Post 12621611)
Damn this is old!!! wtf?

And also still one of the most relevant threads on GFY (business wise).

pornmasta 06-18-2007 10:26 PM

a tutorial that explain how to make 1 sales per week with one think in one day would be better.
What follows, is only a calculation of the money you can make with this result.

V_RocKs 06-19-2007 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 12621825)
a tutorial that explain how to make 1 sales per week with one think in one day would be better.
What follows, is only a calculation of the money you can make with this result.

Should I prep your girlfriends pussy before you fuck her too? Should I make a video on how to take a shit or did everyone figure that one out yet? Perhaps I should just start showing peoples parents how to kill and dispose of their children before they grow up to ask me such questions?

Evil E 06-19-2007 12:56 AM

;my cock is very big!!!!1111

ilbb 06-19-2007 01:03 AM

yep. old thread...

check http://jammycash.com/mybizplan.php for inspiration...You can do own $$$ math

Spicoli 06-19-2007 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 12622208)
Should I prep your girlfriends pussy before you fuck her too? Should I make a video on how to take a shit or did everyone figure that one out yet? Perhaps I should just start showing peoples parents how to kill and dispose of their children before they grow up to ask me such questions?


I love it!! Some ppl whine just for the sake of being heard.

boo hoo, you told me how to make $100 K a year, but someone
else makes more, boo hoo, (beeeeep fries r done) can't you tell me how to do that too.

I also think cars should be issued with a color code.
You, there, pylon you get a bright orange car, now off you go.

I'm just a noob, still researching and finding info, but no, I don't expect
it to be handed to me. I just think it's great that this much info and this many ppl will help!
You guys rock! :thumbsup

pornmasta 06-19-2007 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 12622208)
Should I prep your girlfriends pussy before you fuck her too? Should I make a video on how to take a shit or did everyone figure that one out yet? Perhaps I should just start showing peoples parents how to kill and dispose of their children before they grow up to ask me such questions?

What you postulate in the first messages is far to be obvious.
Your answer proves that your "tutorial" is useless. Crap to make people dream on big numbers.

Walrus 06-19-2007 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ilbb (Post 12622233)
yep. old thread...

check http://jammycash.com/mybizplan.php for inspiration...You can do own $$$ math

Awesome, man. Do you have a thread to give us too, to see what everyone's calculations worked out to be?

ALSO, to everyone else. Is anyone following this plan since it was bumped this year? I'm just wondering how many of you have created at least 20 blogs so far.

ONE MORE THING: Please STOP saying "This Thread Is Old". So fucking what!!! It's a great thread.

V_RocKs 06-20-2007 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilbb (Post 12622233)
yep. old thread...

check http://jammycash.com/mybizplan.php for inspiration...You can do own $$$ math

By those numbers I am a millionaire 5 times over....

I'M REEEEAAAAAATTTTTCH BEATCH!

V_RocKs 06-21-2007 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 12627558)
Awesome, man. Do you have a thread to give us too, to see what everyone's calculations worked out to be?

ALSO, to everyone else. Is anyone following this plan since it was bumped this year? I'm just wondering how many of you have created at least 20 blogs so far.

ONE MORE THING: Please STOP saying "This Thread Is Old". So fucking what!!! It's a great thread.

This thread is... old...

mighty.joe.snail 08-20-2007 03:34 AM

So does anyone know how old this thread is? Juuust kidding. Have you taken the plunge yet Walrus? As for me, I just found this place like 3-4 days ago. Seems interesting. Unfortunately for me, I'm one of those people who likes to just jump in and do it and worry about reading the directions later. Not good since everything I've ever read about webmastering says never go live with a half baked website. Actually I'm surprised the porn industry doesn't get litterally crushed under the weight of all the content it makes.

Here's a simpleton question. Say your not looking for that deluxe apartment in the sky. Say your just looking for some coinage (at least for the moment). Has anyone thought of other advertising sources such as doubleclick, etc.? Or the pay-per-view/click ads? (I think someone about a gajilion posts back mentioned adsense) Now obviously, I don't think that you could get away with using more mainstream ads on a strickly porn site, but I have seen doubleclick on torrent sites. And let's face it, the people who use those sites ain't exactly grandma sharing pics of the grandkids (well, not legal ones anyway). It just seems to be quite a shame to ignore the revenue potential of the other 90% of porn surfers who are never going to join a paysite. Wait, did I just stumble on something? Ignore all that! Everything is copyrighted! :) But seriously, too far fetched? Or is there just sooo much doe floating around from sign-ups that the effort just isn't worth it?

ilbb 08-20-2007 04:22 AM

oh no, another fake nick bumper

mighty.joe.snail 08-20-2007 08:55 PM

What? Do you have any idea how long it took me just to come up with that one? Longer than I care to admit, and I'm still not happy with it. And if you think about it, if I was someone else being cute, wouldn't it make more sense to come up with a nickname that was perhaps a bit more subdued? I mean common, mighty.joe.snail? Maybe ilbb perhaps? Ah just kidding.

But isn't my question valid? Everyone seems to be running around like chickens with their heads chopped off trying to funnel traffic to pay sites. Their focused on that small wedge of the pie. What about the other piece? You have a huge amount of traffic generated from guys looking for boobs, etc. Why not profit off of them? I can think of ways it might be possible, but like I said, is there just sooo much money to be made by funneling that it just doesn't pay to worry about all that traffic that isn't producing? (i.e. going for the pay sites)

Walrus 08-21-2007 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mighty.joe.snail (Post 12957667)
So does anyone know how old this thread is? Juuust kidding. Have you taken the plunge yet Walrus?

Got tired of it after putting about 80 hours of work into it and only getting paid about $27 dollars. I actually didn't make anything yet, since the design cost $40 and the domain cost $20. Works out to be around .10 cents an hour or so.

I haven't completely given up, there are new things I learn every day. I'm really not sure how these guys are updating 30 blogs a day by hand, and 60 every other day. That's insane. I can understand if they were splogs/rss feeds.

V_RocKs 08-21-2007 09:46 PM

Placing mainstream ads on pornsites just gets you banned by the mainstream advertisers.

mighty.joe.snail 08-23-2007 01:58 AM

Hey, Walrus. D?oh! Sorry to hear about that. I won?t give up either. At least the 27 bucks is telling you two things. 1) People are finding your site 2) You must be doing something right on the marketing side since you were able to get some conversion. Maybe reposition your ads? Since I assume your using WordPress and not something more exotic like Drupal or Typo3, why did you spend $40 on a design? There are tons of sites out there with free templates of all different formats for WP. Download one, change the top image, tweak here, tweak there, and your good to go. Perhaps this is just my ignorance showing through, but I think designs like the one you would find at theomegaproject.org are a bit of a waste (design, not coding). Most of the world still uses dial-up and no one goes to these sites to look at the pretty design. Make it look nice, make it look inviting, but that?s it.

?updating 30 blogs a day by hand?? Man, don?t you know everyone exaggerates when it comes to sex? John Holmes looks like Tom Thumb compared to me. See? It?s that easy. Seriously though, that does seem like a tall order for one person. I wonder if they are using some script that sifts RSS, digg, etc. and they simply drag and drop the good ones. I say focus on one or two blogs until you get the hang of it, then scale up. Oh, and if you haven?t already, and you might try looking around problogger, johnchow, and stevepavlina.com for strategies. I don?t know how many will translate to the porn world, but they might be worth a look. One more, bigboobsalert.com network. I believe he (or she) is basically doing the same thing you are.

RocKs - Holy crap. I?m surprised that someone of your stature would answer a guy with, well, now three posts. But ya, I thought I pretty much knew that one. Once again, though, on those torrent sites you have adultfriendfinder, doubleclick, fling, clickhype, etc., mixed on the same page. [Funny story, on a page where you could download Windows Vista, there was an ad for Microsoft (I think it was for MSN). HA!] Either these companies don?t know where their ads are being shown, or they are finally coming to the realization that there is a huge untapped audience in the underbelly of the internet. I do agree though, they aren?t going to embrace overt porn yet, but maybe that day is coming down the pipeline. But I?m sure there are other ways of profiting off the leeches. Build up traffic, then sell it to other porn sites, sell the whole network and build up another one, offer page-per-view/click to smaller adult e-commerce site, like clublez.com for example (are they small? not sure.) Orrr (I?ll stop typing soon) funnel traffic to a less objectionable site, thereby profiting from the leeches, which then drives traffic to the goodies. Maybe wall off the objectionable material by slicing up your site using AJAX scripts? iframes? Aaa, what do I know, I only have three posts.

V_RocKs 08-23-2007 03:16 AM

Will this thread die? NOW!?

RayBonga 08-23-2007 03:53 AM

Why not start a new thread (they are free on GFY) for your ideas instead of bumping old threads?

TubeSubmitters 08-23-2007 03:57 AM

v_rocks how is the blogcomment spamming going?

mighty.joe.snail 08-24-2007 02:13 AM

RayBonga - Maybe in the future, but I wasn't looking to get a huge discussion going. I was just throwing out an observation. Besides, I don't think people would be that interested. Perhaps if I ever get around to taking the plunge myself, I'll post my experiences. And with that, I pull the plug...

Iron Fist 08-24-2007 04:28 AM

1996 called... they want their sales back.

hentaibee 08-24-2007 07:16 PM

duuuuuuudes, you can make 5k/month with just 1 or 2 blogs!
and then you still only need smalish traffic

crockett 08-24-2007 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bengtarne (Post 12975663)
v_rocks how is the blogcomment spamming going?

Ohh I'm sure it's doing just as good as his general spam..

http://www.google.com/search?q=kamil...&start=50&sa=N

vrocks why don't you tell us the real secret to your success.. :1orglaugh

GFY seems to be filled with some real winners these days..

Walrus 11-08-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mighty.joe.snail (Post 12975454)
Hey, Walrus. D?oh! Sorry to hear about that. I won?t give up either. At least the 27 bucks is telling you two things. 1) People are finding your site 2) You must be doing something right on the marketing side since you were able to get some conversion. Maybe reposition your ads? Since I assume your using WordPress and not something more exotic like Drupal or Typo3, why did you spend $40 on a design? There are tons of sites out there with free templates of all different formats for WP. Download one, change the top image, tweak here, tweak there, and your good to go. Perhaps this is just my ignorance showing through, but I think designs like the one you would find at theomegaproject.org are a bit of a waste (design, not coding). Most of the world still uses dial-up and no one goes to these sites to look at the pretty design. Make it look nice, make it look inviting, but that?s it.

Here's a little update. My blog has been averaging 1k uniques for the past couple of days. It was quite nice to see it hit that 1k milestone. It steadily started to rise the past month. 98% of the traffic is from google.com. images.google.com is #2 and google.co.uk is #3.

Despite this, I have only made two more sales since my last post in this thread. One was to latinteencash I just made last week, and one was for FTVGirls just after I made my last post here. The FTVGirls sale is now on its 3rd rebill.

I recently talked with someone, and he said that I need to monetize my site a little better. He is right, but what about the traffic I have sent to the sponsors? The problem isn't just getting more people to click through.. what about the traffic that was sent? My ratios are quite poor.


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