awesome thread. :)

V ---I dont see your network of sites within rhinosgirls?
trying to peep this

I just change the titles and maybe a word here or there in the posts but I'm not really doing too much hard link trades among my own sites. Just scripted traffic trades on the top lists.

We should trade some links in the future.. I'm set up much the same way.

500/day to a 4 week old blog? That seems wayyy too high imo......

500 a day into a new blog is normal.

tell me how to make over 30k a month and i will take notice....

ooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllllllld thrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeaaaaaaad

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You can get that much a day just off hahahahahahahahahaha and the term 'next door nikki' :winkwink:

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wtf, t e c h n o r a t i is a banned word?

It just depends on the network of sites you plug it into. Right now my new group of sites (these blogs) are all supporting each other. So I don't worry if one can't repay the others because they are all mine so the traffic is mine requardless of which site sens out the most or the least.

So because of that, I can add a new site into the network and it will be on average 100 uniques within 24 hours. Normally the sites will hover in the 80 -150 range for the next week and slowly start pulling their own weight within the network. Of course a new site isn't going to pay back the network right away but it doesn't matter.

If you sit back and wait for google to send you all your traffic, then sure you will likely be waiting more than 4 weeks to get 500 a day. If you actively work on other traffic sources then you wouldn't think 500/day is too much for a 4 week old blog.

work....

wow, thread of the month, well if it wasnt old...:)

didn't you know everything old is new again?

Sure is heh :)

I must admit this actualy work :)

Crockett, I had basiclly the same idea. I have a few questions if you dont mind.

Do you subdomains or does each blog gets it own domain?

How much are you making with 10k to 12k in traffic, and how much do you expect to make with 100k?

Can I see an example of one of your blogs?

Any other tips for a noob like me?

I have more blogs than just the ones listed in my sig.

Thanks to everyone in the thread, good read :thumbsup

Still relevant today?
 

V -

I'm a noob ...is what you posted at the beginning of this thread still relevant today - or is there an updated version of it?

Thanks...

J1

very cool thread!

everything old is made new again, whewwww... gotta love that statement! ;)

peace

Something doesn't sound right about this. If this were true, everyone would be doing it. And trading with toplists? Toplist traffic SUCKS. There has to be some other way you are getting your traffic than that and SE.

I think he means He is using toplists to trade within his own blog network

I know. But I find it hard to believe it's bringing him any money.

Why not just update ONE blog 60 times a day instead? Or would that not work? I do realize that each blog should be a different niche.

because a blog updating 60 times a day will most likely get banned by any RSS sites for spamming and can you imagine how hard it would be to keep up with a blog that updates that much if you're a reader...

But crockett isn't using RSS Feeds. I think most people suggest not using RSS feeds right? Creating text yourself brings more traffic? I honestly don't know, I don't own a blog yet. But am in the process of starting since I read this thread. The "keeping up with updates" makes sense... I forgot about bookmarked surfers. I was just thinking of new people finding the blog.

yeah crockett isn't using rss but he's also not updating 1 blog 60 times. ask anyone what they think about that and you'll get "LOL"

Hey don't I know you from somewhere, WF maybe? :winkwink:

This is total bullshit and those who know the truth or can use common sense will see it as that.

Can you make $50,000 a year in your second year? If you are still here and done it right yes. But it's not easy, otherwise the survival rate would be a lot higher and sponsors would not be so desperate to con newbies into sending them meagre amounts of traffic.

This is how tough it is to make this kind of money. Minimum payouts are set as low as possible so that people make $100 a week can get some money.

This industry is based on a model of a few affiliates with the traffic getting lots of signs up, a LOT of affiliates with little traffic getting very little. The sponsors do everything they can to support newbies send traffic, knowing most will fail.

If the above was true why have outside traffic generation? Just stick people in your own premises driving traffic. Approve all people who sign up as an affiliate, set minimum payouts to $500. Totally reduce the support to outside affiliates.

By doing this sponsors control their own traffic, they own it, they do not spend thousands on supporting the vast numbers of little guys. The in house people can't learn and leave to become self employed affiliates. They have no traffic and the majority of good programs will not take them on.

If you think you can get a newbie up to 1 sign up a day in a month and two sign ups a day in 2 months hit me up on ICQ. I live in a university city and can employ people for $30 a day who speak good English.

How many will talk me up on this. Sponsors or affiliates.

No they know the truth of the odds of a newbie making it today are very slim. It's very tough to make it, you have to work hard, learn everything you can, try different things, find programs that work for you and be prepared for a long hard slog.

Never assume that the affiliates you see here are the majority and as well off as they make out. They are the minority who survived. Few make more than $50,000 a year.

If you think you can get a newbie up to 1 sign up a day in a month and two sign ups a day in 2 months hit me up on ICQ. I live in a university city and can employ people for $30 a day who speak good English.

How many will talk me up on this. Sponsors or affiliates.

Did some common sense kill a thread on GFY?

This is how easy or tough it is to reach $50,000 a year. At $30 a sign up that's 1666 a year, 5 a day.

Look around you at all the programs scrambling to get traffic and affiliates. Doing what ever to get affiliates to send traffic, look what support they offer, payouts, money on ads on GFY and other boards, stands and parties at shows.

Instead they can stick a lot of students in a room, pay them minimum wage or the least they can and not run an affiliate program at all.

The industry model is the opposite, they do everything to get a hundreds drive a few sign ups with maximum support.

What I'm wondering is what is V Rocks selling?

Anyone want university students to work in house for $5 an hour hit me up on ICQ. It's been very quiet so far.

Paul Markham, do you think it's possible with blogs though? By creating one a day? Or do you think that too isn't possible? After reading your posts here, this is why I just find any of what they are saying can be possible. I think v-rocks and crockett are doing something we don't know in addition to what they said.

Think about it and use some logic.

It's possible to create a blog a day and automate the feed of text. In fact you can do cut and paste for a lot of it. But after a while it's going to start repeating.

Big question is does it work and what's the secret that makes sponsor give all this easy work to affiliates who are earning so much money? I have as much knowledge about blogs as the average newbie, I can write good text. It's not tough.

So why are all the sponsors giving out all this easy work to people earning $120,000 when they could take it all in house and not have the affiliate system? In fact it would be a lot cheaper.

Simple truth is in general most affiliates make and cost less than an in house guys would. Simple rules of business, the present system was not built because it's the least suitable.

A fact is a fact, if you can build something daily that will generate 1 sale per week for a year, that scheme is true. period

lol yea I don't update 1 blog 60 times a day. :helpme

Right now I have about 20 blogs and they are each updated once every 3 to 4 days, A few are updated more often.

Anyway not including the blogs I had already, but the new ones I made last month are now doing over 12-15k a day. With the original 4 blogs I already had it's something like 20k day. The goal is to hit 100k daily uniques out of this network in 6 months with out feeding it a bunch of out side feeder traffic. I'm on the 2nd month now. As a side note I still haven't submitted then to any blog directories or done any hard link trades.

I did slack this last week and didn't get many updates done, that and I haven't added any new sites this month so far. I've been working on another site of mine with a new layout that and I've been fixing some of the issues I had on my original wordpress blogs. I'm hoping to get back on the ball this week.

Well I'm not going to say it's a 10k a month deal for anyone. However I can tell you most sponsors don't have a clue as to how to run free sites much less generate traffic on them.

I think the main issue as to why people don't make money in this biz, is due to not taking the time to learn before they jump right in and not keeping up with the grind on a daily basis.

Too many of them think they will just sit around the house all day doing nothing then work 30 mins a day and make mad bling. Lack of dedication is why most don't make any money and no posting on GFY isn't dedication or working.. :winkwink:

I wont say 10k a month is doable specially not in the first year unless you are damn lucky or have something else up your sleeve, I think that's a bit far fetched in this day and age on the net. I do think 2 to 3k a month is very doable the first year if they work.

Hmm. Hard to tell who's got the right info and who doesn't. But why would V-Rocks give bad info like that? What would have have to gain by doing so? I think I'm more apt to believe, V-Rocks, crockett, et al than I am Paul Markham. Paul, no offense to you. Maybe you're just a pessimist.

Paul Markham is a total idiot, don't listen to anything he says

and, I can vouche that v_rocks and crockett know their shit

times have changed a bit since 2005 though, but if you have enough knowledge of the industry, the tools provided and the paysites around you can easily mold all of the info from this thread into a successful business

This thread delivers tenfold!

:thumbsup

freesites and blogs....yep yep

I like money

me too....