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DVTimes 06-05-2005 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by project_naughty
Another dipshit, I see.

Good to see democracy in action. If you do not agree with this person then your a dipshit.

BRISK 06-05-2005 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by allanuk
And what do you do for a living? I take it you get up at 5am and work will 11pm in a coal mine?

What was that? You sit all day by your PC and view porn. Hell you do work hard.

By the way, who says those in Cuba do not earn it?

They work for the country and not for themselves.

Have you noticed that you've been saying that you want to go to Cuba to take advantage of all the free education and health care? I don't see you saying that you want to go there to work for improving the country, it sounds to me like you just want all the free stuff you can get.

and since when does someone have to work long hours in a coal mine in order to be meritocratic? You seem to have a slim view of what meritocracy is.

and when did I ever say that people in Cuba "do not earn it"? I suggested that YOU wouldn't earn it because all you talk about is the free stuff you can get. Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!

If you had made threads stating that you wanted to go to Cuba to contribute to the country, you might get respect. Instead, you made threads where you've said you want to go to Cuba because you can get a home, education, and health care provided for you.

Nydahl 06-05-2005 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by project_naughty
Another dipshit, I see.

hard to face the truth right :pimp
don't think twice - its ok and you will never need to change your way of life and thinking.You will die absolutely clueless .....happy you

Nydahl 06-05-2005 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by allanuk
Good to see democracy in action. If you do not agree with this person then your a dipshit.

he/she just confirmed what I said - exactly what said :1orglaugh
I love those US people

Manga1 06-05-2005 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by allanuk
So your argument for not going down Cuba's system is that you will not make money from porn.

I tell you right now, I would give up porn in a second, if I was given a free house, and free heath and education. No stress.

The only reason I do porn is to give myself the quality of life that those in Cuba have.

So what you're saying is you'd rather give up on life and not have to try to get ahead. Not have to work to get more for yourself and your family.

What you're saying is that you, like every other communist in the world, are a bum.

Nydahl 06-05-2005 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Manga1
So what you're saying is you'd rather give up on life and not have to try to get ahead. Not have to work to get more for yourself and your family.

What you're saying is that you, like every other communist in the world, are a bum.

look I also prefer capitalism but I think he is trying to say that those people are ok with their lives.
I think eskymos are also happy to sleep on the snow - and I am sure they would never change it for living in the desert.

DVTimes 06-05-2005 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Manga1
So what you're saying is you'd rather give up on life and not have to try to get ahead. Not have to work to get more for yourself and your family.

What you're saying is that you, like every other communist in the world, are a bum.

Did I say that?

I thought I said I wanted better health and education. I thought I say I wanted to improve by getting a phd in a subject.

What an odd thing to say!!!

DVTimes 06-05-2005 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK
Have you noticed that you've been saying that you want to go to Cuba to take advantage of all the free education and health care? I don't see you saying that you want to go there to work for improving the country, it sounds to me like you just want all the free stuff you can get.

and since when does someone have to work long hours in a coal mine in order to be meritocratic? You seem to have a slim view of what meritocracy is.

and when did I ever say that people in Cuba "do not earn it"? I suggested that YOU wouldn't earn it because all you talk about is the free stuff you can get. Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!

If you had made threads stating that you wanted to go to Cuba to contribute to the country, you might get respect. Instead, you made threads where you've said you want to go to Cuba because you can get a home, education, and health care provided for you.

In fact, I find Cuba has more to offer me - to live.

I live in the UK, I see heath care getting worse. I see the police do nothing but arrest old ladies for feeding birds and do not come out if children are setting fire to cars.

I will not comment on the USA as I do not live there, so its not fair for me to do so.

But I went to university to improve myself. But now I find that people are no happier working if they earn min wage or earning big money in a big firm.

Yes you are right, many Cubans are having fun all day on the beach. So what?

On one argument you say Cubans are living in misery, then you say they are having too much fun. Make up your minds.

For those who think Cuba is wrong, answer me these questions:

1. Do you believe Cuba has a poor health system (even thought the UN and others say its one of the best) and its free?

2. Do you not think that Cubans have great education?

3. Do you believe Castro does not love his people. Do you believe that everything he has done has not been to improve there lives?

Does it not scare you in fact to think that for years you have been fed the bull shit crap that the Cuban system does not work? In fact if you even thought that the Cuban system could work (and clearly it does), does that mean you have lived a lie. Its a scary thought.

BRISK 06-05-2005 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by allanuk
On one argument you say Cubans are living in misery

Nope, I never said that. That was someone else.

wjxxx 06-05-2005 07:05 AM

Cuba is a prison country. It`s cool when you are tourist but very uncool when you are citizen

Johny Traffic 06-05-2005 07:23 AM

Ive been to Cuba. Its fucking great for a holliday. Ive also been to the states, also great for a holliday.

When we was in the states we left where the tourist areas were and it was still great, infact better out of the tourist areas.

When we was in Cuba we decided to get out of the tourist area and do some traveling. Two things to mention. 1. The Cubans are great people. But 2nd, while we was traveling outside the Cuban tourist areas it was like being in a third world country. We went into a shop to try and get some food as finding any sort of places to eat in small villages is actually very hard. I went into this one shop, they had one shoe on the shelf. Thats all they had, one shoe not even a pair on sale.

The moral is, I'll take paying for health care and having two shoes any day over Cuba.... But like I say great for a holliday

BRISK 06-05-2005 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
We went into a shop to try and get some food as finding any sort of places to eat in small villages is actually very hard. I went into this one shop, they had one shoe on the shelf. Thats all they had, one shoe not even a pair on sale.

It was probably a healthy and educated shoe though. :winkwink:

NTSS 06-05-2005 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by allanuk
http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeyesunda...nte/about.html

OLIVER STONE'S COMANDANTE

I was told that this film is baned in the USA (so much for being free). Watch it and you will see the real Cuba.

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Never heard of a film being banned here. Are you sure you got your facts straight?

Brujah 06-05-2005 10:52 AM

Poor Cuba, trains US Doctors.

June 2000, when a group from the Congressional Black Caucus visited Cuban president Fidel Castro. Representative Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) described huge areas in his district where there were no doctors, and Castro responded with an offer of full scholarships for U.S. citizens to study at ELAM. Later that year, Castro spoke at the Riverside Church in New York, reiterating the offer and committing 500 slots to U.S. students who would pledge to practice in poor U.S. communities.

http://academic.udayton.edu/health/0...roviders01.htm

JJ Gold 06-05-2005 05:58 PM

I don't know who I would kill first........Castro or Oliver Stone.

JJ Gold 06-05-2005 06:01 PM

1. Do you believe Cuba has a poor health system (even thought the UN and others say its one of the best) and its free?

I would say that Cuba's health care system sucks since they cannot even obtain modern medical equipment.

reynold 06-06-2005 12:10 AM

I haven't seen the documentary yet but I'm hoping to see it soon...

PenisFace 06-06-2005 12:21 AM

Project_Naugty - Have you attempted to make a single valid point in this thread, or do you think being childish and calling people names makes you look intelligent?

Cuba is a beautiful country, the people are some of the friendliest there are, tourists are welcomed and treated like kings (and queens). Castro has in his hands a shining example of a communist country that truely lives up to the communist ideals. Not only do the people of Cuba think Castro is a great man, they seem to be a very happy people, as well.

Er, now call me a dipshit, Project_Naughty, because I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about. Right?

Joe Citizen 06-06-2005 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by project_naughty
What a brainless twat. Cubans live in poverty and misery. So much so that as many as possible of them try to escape to Florida each year.

You're a fucking idiot.

Not only that but you're an ignorant fucking idiot.

:1orglaugh

DWB 06-06-2005 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by project_naughty
What a brainless twat. Cubans live in poverty and misery. So much so that as many as possible of them try to escape to Florida each year.

That's a load of shit. The ones who float to FLA every year are the greedy ones or the ones (anti-Castro) who the Cuban gov't are after.

I spend a lot of time in Cuba and can tell you first hand that most Cubans LOVE CUBA and would not leave if given the chance. They are proud of their country and realize they are in a tough spot, but they love Cuba just the same.

Go there and see for yourself. Poverty? yes. Misery? some of them. But would they ALL pack up and leave if given the chance... no way. They just want a little better life and access to the same things and comfort we have.

Cuba is not North Korea where they all live in slave labor camps.

DWB 06-06-2005 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Gold
I don't know who I would kill first........Castro or Oliver Stone.

Say what you will about Castro. That man is a genius. A stubborn fucker, but a genius. Do your homework on him and find out why the US really put an embargo against Cuba. The US feared him and his gaining popularity among Latin America. He became a threat to our national security (so they say) so they shut him out and tried to assassinate him several times.

I have studied Fidel Castro (and Che Guevara) in great detail and find him an amazing person. If given the dream chance to meet one person.... it would be him. While I do not agree with everything he does, his ideas are indeed revolutionary.

project_naughty 06-06-2005 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nydahl
he/she just confirmed what I said - exactly what said :1orglaugh
I love those US people

I'm European actually, and it's dipshits like you and AllanUK who give Europeans a bad name.
Dumb fucking 17 year olds. Go get an education.

BlueDesignStudios 06-06-2005 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
Say what you will about Castro. That man is a genius. A stubborn fucker, but a genius. Do your homework on him and find out why the US really put an embargo against Cuba. The US feared him and his gaining popularity among Latin America. He became a threat to our national security (so they say) so they shut him out and tried to assassinate him several times.

I have studied Fidel Castro (and Che Guevara) in great detail and find him an amazing person. If given the dream chance to meet one person.... it would be him. While I do not agree with everything he does, his ideas are indeed revolutionary.

Amen to that!!

as a side note, cuba is damn good at sports!!!

Wiggles 06-06-2005 06:18 AM

never even heard of this before, will definately check it out now!

directfiesta 06-06-2005 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by project_naughty
What a brainless twat. Cubans live in poverty and misery. So much so that as many as possible of them try to escape to Florida each year.

How do you know

Americans are prohibited from travelling to Cuba. You went? You are a terrorist then :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

directfiesta 06-06-2005 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wjxxx
Cuba is a prison country. It`s cool when you are tourist but very uncool when you are citizen

True. They host Gantanamo ...

Oh shit, American runned!

taibo 06-06-2005 07:13 AM

one word .... scarface

David! 06-06-2005 07:17 AM

http://www.resistance.org.au/resrev/people01/che15.jpg
Viva la Revolucion !!!!

Libertine 06-06-2005 08:48 AM

http://web.amnesty.org/report2005/cub-summary-eng

Aside from that, communism equals slavery.

wdsguy 06-06-2005 08:49 AM

sounds like a interesting film to see


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