Originally Posted by nestle

Disclaimer: My opinion upon fully watching the video. I am a spectator to all this like most of us here but am trying to be objective. Don't hate me for it. On the same token, don't think I'm on anybody's side.

First, Melissa. If you have spoken to at least a half-intelligent attorney, the very first thing he would have said was to not make the videos public because 1) it gives the opposing party your primary evidence which they can use against you and 2) (and don't get pissy about this) it looks like you are gaining more and more publicity out of this. Now, don't take this as an attack on you personally like you did when I made the comment about possible editing. If the attorney you talked to asked you to refer him to another attorney who knows more about this than s/he does - then this is #1 sign you need to find another attorney. :2 cents:

Now, whoever typed up and posted the original accusation (with username Mayor). The way you decided to react and send accusations flying like lightning bolts out of your ass was out of line. You keep saying that you were not allowed in the studio. If I were in your position (representing Brooke) and someone told me this, I would have said "Brooke, pack your bags, we're going home." Getting this promotional shoot done is a distant second in priority to keeping Brooke under your wing. Perhaps both parties should have made the terms of this promotional shoot clear prior to getting on the plane.

During the video, I personally do not think Melissa caused any physical harm to Brooke (perhaps unintentional very short-term pain). If indeed Brooke was crying after the taping ended (which you state continuously), it was most likely because she felt emotionally helpless that no one was there to 'protect' her and also because she partly blame herself for letting it go on farther than she would have been comfortable with. I strongly recommend that you have a discussion with all the girls that you represent to make sure they voice their opinions during their work.

Now, brings us back to the question: why wasn't Mayor's money people allowed in the studio? Who decided to do this and why? That's like keeping a newborn away from its mother. (Of course, in this case, the mother didn't react until way afterwards.) Again, if I were in Mayor Money's shoes and I was told to stay out of the studio - I would have been fucking livid (again, unless this was previously agreed upon and accepted by Brooke).

Lastly, what all of you guys should do is put most of the blame on the host (and the crew) of this 'show' and tarnish their image. And you know what'll happen - their excuse will be "If she didn't want to do it, all she had to do was say no" which leaves poor Brooke again down a shame spiral for not standing up for herself. I think a lot of us who've watched this video would agree that the 'host' is an idiot and didn't get laid enough in high school before dropping out due to his grades or he simply got abused as a child. Someone needs to shove that strapon up his ass and see how he feels about it if Brooke was there telling someone to "slam it" and "take it for the team".

I'm gonna go watch some TV. I will be back later. Don't attack me all at once now. :upsidedow

PS> If this was fake drama, bravo.
PSS> I sincerely hope that Brooke is okay.
PSSS> If my post seems incoherent to this story - then forgive me, my post is based on what I've read at GFY and seen in the video. This was not a sig whoring post - I did not include my sig and will not for the rest of my participation in this thread.

Originally Posted by Anthony

I'm gonna love to see this play out in court.

Well your honor, Ms Melissa had an over size strapon, and while she was actually inserting the strapon in and out of Ms Brooke, she is not responsible for the act itself, as she was coerced.

Oh come on, this is gonna be the biggest waste of money on both sides.

Originally Posted by HotMelissa

I am not sure what you are talking about! The court issue will be the damage to my name and my company for years to come with this false story. I had affiliates that took my links down because they believed his lies which cost me money. I have some very big deals in the works like TV shows, magazine deals and product promotions that this could hurt all becasue someone made up lies. I mean from what he was saying I assulted her and that is a total lie and not something small at all. I will not back down from this I don't care how long it takes or how much it costs me. Melissa

Originally Posted by Mayor

You even said the reason we were not allowed in to film was because you specificly didn't want your girl on the top of our site fucking Brooke with a dildo!!

Originally Posted by HotMelissa

I am not sure what you are talking about! The court issue will be the damage to my name and my company for years to come with this false story. I had affiliates that took my links down because they believed his lies which cost me money. I have some very big deals in the works like TV shows, magazine deals and product promotions that this could hurt all becasue someone made up lies. I mean from what he was saying I assulted her and that is a total lie and not something small at all. I will not back down from this I don't care how long it takes or how much it costs me. Melissa

Originally Posted by Brujah

:1orglaugh Do your exploding career a favor and just stop posting. The more you post the more you keep sounding like a stupid greedy little bitch who wants to keep nagging and beating a dead horse. If you really want to keep some affiliates, shutup already and quit ruining the fantasy they have about you being all sweet and nice. I felt a little bad for both of you ( Brooke and yourself ), and it was uncomfortable to hear about this bad situation. I don't feel so bad for you anymore, now you're just being a bitch.
:2 cents:

Originally Posted by Brujah

:1orglaugh Do your exploding career a favor and just stop posting. The more you post the more you keep sounding like a stupid greedy little bitch who wants to keep nagging and beating a dead horse. If you really want to keep some affiliates, shutup already and quit ruining the fantasy they have about you being all sweet and nice. I felt a little bad for both of you ( Brooke and yourself ), and it was uncomfortable to hear about this bad situation. I don't feel so bad for you anymore, now you're just being a bitch.
:2 cents:

Originally Posted by Mayor

Right the green room we couldn't go in at your request.

Originally Posted by Brujah

:1orglaugh Do your exploding career a favor and just stop posting. The more you post the more you keep sounding like a stupid greedy little bitch who wants to keep nagging and beating a dead horse. If you really want to keep some affiliates, shutup already and quit ruining the fantasy they have about you being all sweet and nice. I felt a little bad for both of you ( Brooke and yourself ), and it was uncomfortable to hear about this bad situation. I don't feel so bad for you anymore, now you're just being a bitch.
:2 cents:

Originally Posted by Brujah

:1orglaugh Do your exploding career a favor and just stop posting. The more you post the more you keep sounding like a stupid greedy little bitch who wants to keep nagging and beating a dead horse. If you really want to keep some affiliates, shutup already and quit ruining the fantasy they have about you being all sweet and nice. I felt a little bad for both of you ( Brooke and yourself ), and it was uncomfortable to hear about this bad situation. I don't feel so bad for you anymore, now you're just being a bitch.
:2 cents:

Originally Posted by Sin

You're pretty fucking dense if you think that "webmaster messageboard drama" (which is what this is right now) is going to hurt your 'future business deals' and 'reputation' for 'years to come' more than a LEGAL COURT BATTLE.

Taking it to court, will do FAR more damage to your name and company and for FAR more years to come, than any messageboard thread or post could ever do, regardless of the outcome.

Originally Posted by nestle

Disclaimer: My opinion upon fully watching the video. I am a spectator to all this like most of us here but am trying to be objective. Don't hate me for it. On the same token, don't think I'm on anybody's side.

First, Melissa. If you have spoken to at least a half-intelligent attorney, the very first thing he would have said was to not make the videos public because 1) it gives the opposing party your primary evidence which they can use against you and 2) (and don't get pissy about this) it looks like you are gaining more and more publicity out of this. Now, don't take this as an attack on you personally like you did when I made the comment about possible editing. If the attorney you talked to asked you to refer him to another attorney who knows more about this than s/he does - then this is #1 sign you need to find another attorney. :2 cents:

Now, whoever typed up and posted the original accusation (with username Mayor). The way you decided to react and send accusations flying like lightning bolts out of your ass was out of line. You keep saying that you were not allowed in the studio. If I were in your position (representing Brooke) and someone told me this, I would have said "Brooke, pack your bags, we're going home." Getting this promotional shoot done is a distant second in priority to keeping Brooke under your wing. Perhaps both parties should have made the terms of this promotional shoot clear prior to getting on the plane.

During the video, I personally do not think Melissa caused any physical harm to Brooke (perhaps unintentional very short-term pain). If indeed Brooke was crying after the taping ended (which you state continuously), it was most likely because she felt emotionally helpless that no one was there to 'protect' her and also because she partly blame herself for letting it go on farther than she would have been comfortable with. I strongly recommend that you have a discussion with all the girls that you represent to make sure they voice their opinions during their work.

Now, brings us back to the question: why wasn't Mayor's money people allowed in the studio? Who decided to do this and why? That's like keeping a newborn away from its mother. (Of course, in this case, the mother didn't react until way afterwards.) Again, if I were in Mayor Money's shoes and I was told to stay out of the studio - I would have been fucking livid (again, unless this was previously agreed upon and accepted by Brooke).

Lastly, what all of you guys should do is put most of the blame on the host (and the crew) of this 'show' and tarnish their image. And you know what'll happen - their excuse will be "If she didn't want to do it, all she had to do was say no" which leaves poor Brooke again down a shame spiral for not standing up for herself. I think a lot of us who've watched this video would agree that the 'host' is an idiot and didn't get laid enough in high school before dropping out due to his grades or he simply got abused as a child. Someone needs to shove that strapon up his ass and see how he feels about it if Brooke was there telling someone to "slam it" and "take it for the team".

I'm gonna go watch some TV. I will be back later. Don't attack me all at once now. :upsidedow

PS> If this was fake drama, bravo.
PSS> I sincerely hope that Brooke is okay.
PSSS> If my post seems incoherent to this story - then forgive me, my post is based on what I've read at GFY and seen in the video. This was not a sig whoring post - I did not include my sig and will not for the rest of my participation in this thread.

Originally Posted by Sin

You're pretty fucking dense if you think that "webmaster messageboard drama" (which is what this is right now) is going to hurt your 'future business deals' and 'reputation' for 'years to come' more than a LEGAL COURT BATTLE.

Taking it to court, will do FAR more damage to your name and company and for FAR more years to come, than any messageboard thread or post could ever do, regardless of the outcome.

Originally Posted by Digipimp

yeah but its going to ruin her business and super big fancy opportunities. you know kind of like how when bubba said you get fucked with the strap on or i kick you out off my show and tell everyone not to go to your site to brooke.

Originally Posted by HotMelissa

I never said anything other then I wanted to only have people taping during the show and nothing more! You could of been in the Green Room and the studio as long as you were not taping and you knew that. I had never even met Bubba till that day so there is no way they would let me come in and make all the rules like that and you know it. The audio from the Green Room will also show that I was never rude or demanding at all about anything! Melissa

Originally Posted by Alex From San Diego

You did nothing wrong Melissa. PERIOD! If what you did was wrong then I am guilty everytime I have sex with my wife. This is absolutely crazy for anyone to think that you assaulted her. I feel for you and I don't even know you.

It is a shame what one person can do to another without thoroughly thinking of the repurcsussions. That is a major problem with most people in this business. They are so quick to jump to accusations that they don't think before they react or accumulate all the facts. This is clearly the case in yours and Brookes situation. I feel bad for both of you. Good luck to you.

Originally Posted by AaronM

Hey Alex....It's been awhile.....

My opinion is not going to be the popular one around here but that's nothing unusual.

Everybody involved has some sort of responsibility in this and that includes Melissa.

I once saw a movie called "A Few Good Men." In this movie, two Marines were being charged with a murder that occurred after they were ordered to assault the victim. Does anybody recall how that one turned out? Although the Marines were not convicted of the murder, they were still held somewhat responsible and punished for it. This is the exact same situation here.

Maybe somebody should do a porn spin off of that movie with this.

Originally Posted by tony404

What did that mean?



Hal?



What did that mean?



Colonel Jessep said
he ordered the Code Red.



- What did we do wrong?
- It's not that simple.



- We did nothing wrong!
- Yeah, we did.



We're supposed to fight for people
who can't fight for themselves.



We were supposed to fight for Willy.

Originally Posted by Mayor

I will not continue to piss about this publicly. Your video has shed a lot of light on everything and I think it's time we put down the keyboard and talk (or have your lawyers call) I open either way. It may in fact be better to have them chat since there will be no emotion.

I am truly sorry if your feelings are hurt. Please remember I was and am trying to defend a girl who was clearly in distress the only manner I had. FF to time index 34:00 and you'll see what you didn't want to or didn't notice at the show. It's where brooke, silently mouths for you to NO NO NO. She does it several times to your camera guy, bubba and the others, silently so she won't look bad on air. She does it cause she's terrified of all the pressure on her. Even the guys on the show say that.

If you knew banning our cameras so you could profit from a "surprise" strap on session would also put our model in danger, I hope you would have made a different choice. I want to believe you would have. I know if I could go back I wouldn't have trusted Bubba one bit and we would have walked out.

You did have some more control of that situation than Brooke or Kat. Clearly they were being pushed around and you were the planned favorite. How much fault that puts on you I can't say. You know in your own heart.

"I knew that I was flying Melissa Midwest in here... We knew that... And we knew that she was willing to give--- to put a strap-on on and fuck a girl..."


Lets face it, we've both been played. I am more than willing to put down the saber and pick up the peace pipe and admit where I was wrong but you have to do your part too.

You have my number email and ICQ, lets chat and really take care of this the way it should have been from the beginning.

Originally Posted by AaronM

Hey Alex....It's been awhile.....

My opinion is not going to be the popular one around here but that's nothing unusual.

Everybody involved has some sort of responsibility in this and that includes Melissa.

I once saw a movie called "A Few Good Men." In this movie, two Marines were being charged with a murder that occurred after they were ordered to assault the victim. Does anybody recall how that one turned out? Although the Marines were not convicted of the murder, they were still held somewhat responsible and punished for it. This is the exact same situation here.

Maybe somebody should do a porn spin off of that movie with this.

Originally Posted by evulvmedia

Mayor,

You clearly posted your "pull down your links to MM and I'll pay you $250 PPS forever" post out of anger...

Originally Posted by evulvmedia

Looking forward, it doesn't seem that anything will be resolved until you admit to yourself that Melissa didn't fuck you- Bubba did. Accept that she is a little (or maybe a lot) of a Nebraska princess- but she didn't really have anywhere near the primary responsiblity for this situation. You really had much more responsiblity than her because of your passiveness with regard to how the situation was set-up and then your lack of letting go of the camera thing in the interest of your girls' safety.

If you admit that, and take responsiblity for that, and Melissa continues to escalate this, then it is really really clear that she is just being a bitch.

Now you should let me have Kat for the nite in exchange for giving you all this insight....

Originally Posted by evulvmedia

Mayor,

You clearly posted your "pull down your links to MM and I'll pay you $250 PPS forever" post out of anger... You were obviously angry at being fucked...

But Melissa didn't fuck you. She's just a bitch and played along with Bubba's abusive fantasies...

Bubba fucked you... He said "c'mon down Mayor and bend over so you can take my big Bubba Love Sponge Sausage in the ass..." He did this by: (1) creating a mysogynistic situation where his fantasies ruled over the girls well-being; (2) clearly favoring Melissa as the "princess" superstar and seeing your girls as inferior; (3) pressuring the girls (especially yours) to participate in this princess-Melissa-vs-the-servant-bitch-Brooke fantasy...

Melissa played along, but it's easy to play along in the princess role (especially when you're a princess to begin with)... Your girls are obviously bothered throughout the tape.

That said, it was really really really stupid not to (1) determine that Bubba-the-love-sponge (who is on THE HOWARD STERN network) might create a bad environment for your girls; (2) to not set up the terms of the deal clearly beforehand; and (3) to not even go in and observe- putting your girls interest first- and let the camera/filming issue go...

At all of these three instances you had the opportunity to ensure that Bubba was not in complete control of this episode and that there were some terms and boundaries that must be respected regarding your girls. In this way- by your lack of action- you contributed passively to letting the situation unfold in a bad way.

Looking forward, it doesn't seem that anything will be resolved until you admit to yourself that Melissa didn't fuck you- Bubba did. Accept that she is a little (or maybe a lot) of a Nebraska princess- but she didn't really have anywhere near the primary responsiblity for this situation. You really had much more responsiblity than her because of your passiveness with regard to how the situation was set-up and then your lack of letting go of the camera thing in the interest of your girls' safety.

If you admit that, and take responsiblity for that, and Melissa continues to escalate this, then it is really really clear that she is just being a bitch.

Now you should let me have Kat for the nite in exchange for giving you all this insight....

Originally Posted by Biggy

Melissa said "No I don't want to hurt her" as Kat sat there smiling. You want to blame Melissa, blame Kat also, even though I don't think its either of their fault, nor is that what I am mad about. I'm mad at Mayor for making that thread, and a half-ass retraction isn't going to cut it.

Part of me is happy he had to go thru a little of what we went thru yesterday. The stress level sucks going thru this. Part of me wishes he just would've come to me first like a professional, instead of shooting off at the hip blaming Melissa, which is frankly, insane. I actually recall within minutes of the first thread saying to hit me up so we can chat like professionals. It's a sad situation all around, one that I think both parties never wished happened. If Melissa wants to litigate, I can sense her anger. But at least everyone got to see the video and make a clear and concise opinion of what happened, instead of basing it off a promo contest that was predicated on hearsay by a model, which was created by a person who didn't even see what happened.

Originally Posted by evulvmedia

Oh and one more thing for Mayor:

YOU are the one who is ultimately resposible for your girls safety and making sure that their boundaries are respected. It's your fucking operation!!!

Bubba-the-used-vaginal-sponge is, after all, a shock jock- and Melissa's crew is obviously going to be concerned for... uhhh... Melissa!! Duh!

So who's there making sure that your girls are taken care of?

You should have done it yourself or you should have hired somebody to do it if you couldn't...

Brooke was upset after the episode and felt "violated"- she was probably upset with Melissa because that was an obvious outlet for her anger... But I will bet that after digesting this a little, Brooke will be upset with you because you failed as from an organizational viewpoint.

I just say that to make you aware that when you recognize that you have this resposibility and you failed in it, you will have to address that with Brooke.

Send Kat over to me for a nite and I'll address it myself with her... hehe...

Originally Posted by AaronM

but the real fuck up here is Bubba.

Originally Posted by BlingDaddy

And my second "who the fuck are you" post... you've asked to fuck Kat Young 2 times in one thread. Care to tell us who you are and why you're really here?


DRAMA BITCHES!

Originally Posted by evulvmedia

i don't quite know what you are talking about, BlingDaddy... i am a relatively-new webmaster, I am here because this is "where the industry meets", and I find this whole thing has some interesting lessons for anyone who runs an organization that is not just themself...

but that of this is irrelevant anyway, and i resent your venom... (and I am joking about the fucking Kat thing, lighten up!)

Originally Posted by BlingDaddy

Aaron.. I so have to disagree. Bubba did what? Invited pornstars to his radio show to promote them?

And they got what out of it....? I said it above... "PUBLICITY". So you rest blame on the host of the show but call the pornstars innocent?

I smell cash here. This shit is PURE drama in it's finest form.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by nestle

Disclaimer: My opinion upon fully watching the video. I am a spectator to all this like most of us here but am trying to be objective. Don't hate me for it. On the same token, don't think I'm on anybody's side.

First, Melissa. If you have spoken to at least a half-intelligent attorney, the very first thing he would have said was to not make the videos public because 1) it gives the opposing party your primary evidence which they can use against you and 2) (and don't get pissy about this) it looks like you are gaining more and more publicity out of this. Now, don't take this as an attack on you personally like you did when I made the comment about possible editing. If the attorney you talked to asked you to refer him to another attorney who knows more about this than s/he does - then this is #1 sign you need to find another attorney. :2 cents:

Now, whoever typed up and posted the original accusation (with username Mayor). The way you decided to react and send accusations flying like lightning bolts out of your ass was out of line. You keep saying that you were not allowed in the studio. If I were in your position (representing Brooke) and someone told me this, I would have said "Brooke, pack your bags, we're going home." Getting this promotional shoot done is a distant second in priority to keeping Brooke under your wing. Perhaps both parties should have made the terms of this promotional shoot clear prior to getting on the plane.

During the video, I personally do not think Melissa caused any physical harm to Brooke (perhaps unintentional very short-term pain). If indeed Brooke was crying after the taping ended (which you state continuously), it was most likely because she felt emotionally helpless that no one was there to 'protect' her and also because she partly blame herself for letting it go on farther than she would have been comfortable with. I strongly recommend that you have a discussion with all the girls that you represent to make sure they voice their opinions during their work.

Now, brings us back to the question: why wasn't Mayor's money people allowed in the studio? Who decided to do this and why? That's like keeping a newborn away from its mother. (Of course, in this case, the mother didn't react until way afterwards.) Again, if I were in Mayor Money's shoes and I was told to stay out of the studio - I would have been fucking livid (again, unless this was previously agreed upon and accepted by Brooke).

Lastly, what all of you guys should do is put most of the blame on the host (and the crew) of this 'show' and tarnish their image. And you know what'll happen - their excuse will be "If she didn't want to do it, all she had to do was say no" which leaves poor Brooke again down a shame spiral for not standing up for herself. I think a lot of us who've watched this video would agree that the 'host' is an idiot and didn't get laid enough in high school before dropping out due to his grades or he simply got abused as a child. Someone needs to shove that strapon up his ass and see how he feels about it if Brooke was there telling someone to "slam it" and "take it for the team".

I'm gonna go watch some TV. I will be back later. Don't attack me all at once now. :upsidedow

PS> If this was fake drama, bravo.
PSS> I sincerely hope that Brooke is okay.
PSSS> If my post seems incoherent to this story - then forgive me, my post is based on what I've read at GFY and seen in the video. This was not a sig whoring post - I did not include my sig and will not for the rest of my participation in this thread.