You really need to get yourself a clue... :1orglaugh

I do not have any doubt in my mind that some members of the UN are of the "opinion" that the US broke either the charter or a resolution, but that is the point, it is some member's opinion. They can present a resolution in an attempt to make their "opinion" official and binding but they have not done so and until they do it is only the opinions of some members.

Much like criminal law, an accusation is made, a defendant is charged, a defendant goes to trial, but until the defendant is "officially" convicted, it is only the opinion of the prosecutor (and possibly the audience) that the defendant has broken the law.

Why do I bother???

These "opinions" are not just silly personal ones' but backed up with legal opinion of international law and also to reflect the spirit in which a whatever.. treaty was originally signed and ratified.

The UN are the interpreters of their treaties and laws and what you call the "opinion" of Mr Annan is not his opinion, but that of the United Nations. That is his job as Secretary General - namely, to take instructions from UN membership to express the opinions and policy of the UN.

Gawd.. this is painful and can't be real - your "opinion" on other people's opinions simply does not matter.

In fact, forget opinions - they are not opinions in the first instance. They are statements of fact re United Nations policies and agreements/disagreements. Fuck all to do with opinions.

Who wants to suck my opinion ??????


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Cambaby probably would if it was a FACT !!!!

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He of course is not the only one at the UN that may be of one "opinion" but their opinion is still just that, an opinion. It will only become "official" if a resolution is officially proposed and passed. Then it will not be just an opinion of "some" members of the UN.

BTW, international law as well as most laws are arguable and are argued by legal scholars almost daily. Do you think that laws are written in stone much as Christians believe the ten commandments were handed down to Moses, inerrant laws, to be obeyed without argument.

Inerrant statements of fact? It is fact that some are of one opinion, but their opinion is not official fact.

That's just .... your .... OPINION :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Once again, in criminal law, a prosecutor may be of the opinion a defendant has broken the law, the Judge may be of the same opinion, most if not all of the audience may be of the same opinion, but until ALL of the jurors rule that the defendant is guilty of breaking the law, only then does it change from opinion to official fact.

considering on average Palestine families have 8 or 9 kids.. I'm guessing it would take a long time to run out.. :1orglaugh

It is fact that until the UN has an official ruling in the form of a resolution it is only opinion by anyone including the members of the UN, that a UN Resolution has been broken.

It is fact that laws, are argued by legal scholars daily, in one forum or another.

WTF are you rambling on about over "opinions". There is only one policy and that is that decided upon by the international community and reflected thru the words of it's Secretary General.

No more, no less.

It is "opinion" until it is made official and the UN has not made any effort, up to this point, to make it official, ie a proposed resolution. In addition not all members of the UN are of the same opinion which probably is the most relevant singular reason for not proposing a resolution.

WTF are you talking about??

Na.. forget it.. Till the US pays it's entry fees to belong to the UN, your comments are irrelevant anyway.

If you do not understand the difference between opinion and official fact then so be it. Fact, the US is the largest contributor to the UN financially and militarily with or without catching up on its dues, so their is no need for your concern.

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I was waiting for "how massive the US contributes to the UN" - pity they claim to be the largest "givers" on the planet and in, fact even small countries give far more pro rata than the US ever did.

Back to... Till the US pays it's entry fees to belong to the UN, your comments are irrelevant anyway.

Again.. that's you opinion - and it matters little to anyone.

Not an opinion it is a fact. Fact, the US gives more monies, in aid, and charity then any other country on the earth. Pro rata means shit when it comes down to actual monies given. When a country is in need ask them if they are interested in pro rata or the largest sum of money.

You remind me of a shareholder in one of my corps - he bought.. or rather, was issued a load of shares and forgot to put the check in the post. Then... comes along to an annual meeting and voices his opinions till he's told to shut up.

Bottom line... he's irrelevant. Next.

"Shareholder in one of your corps". Funny stuff for someone that sucks the dicks of American tourists for income, in your poor little irrelevant country.

Now your true colors are showing thru :winkwink:

You are what you are my man and no amount of "opinions" or attempted intelligent conversation will ever change that.

Damn... more opinions - ya sure are like that potless shareholder :1orglaugh

Come on, you two. Get back to some quality discussion. Sexxxy Sites made a solid point of the US donating more money than any other country, regardless if it was a smaller percentage of its GDP than any other developed nation. Get over it and start bickering about more relevant issues rather than name calling.

It's more entertaining.

Thanks.

I have told you what my true colors are before. I do not like your board persona, thus I do not like you, you America bashing son-of-a-bitch. Once again the only reason for my response to you is that I am running software again. The current software should finish up in an hour or so then I will start running another piece of software that will probably run through the night, but I will not be here posting through the night as I am leaving early in the morning to attend an air show.

Ah.. what was the thread about again? :winkwink:

Hell.. to be honest I never did get near that part - was just soo impressed with the ramblings of the clueless trying to defend the indefensible as ususal.



PS.. Yes agree, the US probably does on mass pay more out in total. That was always the arguement of the US govt for decades which differs totally with the rest of the international community. You can always expect any nation who is liable for the largest donation to be moaning that "we give more than you". (I see the same shit with people in a group).

Only my :2 cents: - tho shared by most other as well. The only valid measure of "giving" is pro rata. Who can anyone compare a small nation to a large - both owe their dues depending on population.

However... the reality is also in the fact that, with the exception of around $80 mill owed by a few UN member states, all other nations have already paid - apart from the US who still owes around $600mil - not just for this year, but from previous years.

The last time the US paid towards UN club fees was immediately prior to Bush having a need to address the UN. It was too embarassing to go and speak without having paid a little.

As for "givers" in total... Denmark beats any other nation by a long stretch - both via their govt and personally.

And that is exactly your disease man. Truth is you are trying to argue black is white in an effort to defend what you percieve as an attack on... hell knows what it is... call it "patriotism" or whatever.

In reality.. I really have no particular interest in either the US or any other country. The only reason it gets constantly raised is simply because you seem to think it is relevent - even on boards relating to totally different subjects - like this one.

You have a problem... quote above "America bashing" - that is your problem. I don't have that problem - either over my own country or any other. I do not care if anyone "bashes" my country - especially when there is valid reason - I'm totally with them. You were bred to hate anyone who dare comment in any derogatory form over your country. That is a serious disease which only exists in brainwashed nations normally.

Have you seen webmasters from other nations arrive on GFY and behave like trolls in an attempt to "defend" their nations?? They don't care - and hell, neither do I.

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I'll add that your "comments" are not representative of your countrymen and certainly do not help in casting a good light on the country you are so desperate to "defend".

This is a webmaster board and others look on and may seriously wonder if a nation is in need of a shrink when reading crap purveyed here by extremists. OK.. I know better, but others may wonder.

Bottom line - you are an embarassment to your country and would be the same with any country. That is not mean't as derogatory - just common sense.

can any of you muslim sympathizers name the president, king, prime minister, or other potentate who was in power of the palestinian state before israel moved in?

If there was no government, I guess there was no state. Palestinians could have lived under israel rule with no problem but being muslim scum, they had to start killing civilians.

Israel's got the bullets, so would I :winkwink:

the US does as it sees fit.
We do it because we can, we do it because we've paid more to NOT do it than all of europe combined.
We allowed the UN to exist so that the other countries of the world feel relevant. So it back fired as a PR move. who cares?

it'll happen...

Fine.

Just don't talk about freedom, elections, liberty and so on...

The owerwhelming majority of your posts are negative comments about the American President, or the American Government, or the American people, or America in general. So for someone that does not have a particular interest in the US you devote time virtually every day saying something negative about America, which when taken in total equals "bashing". There are only a handful of you on this board that dedicate their time doing this. In the case of Direct Fiesta he openly admits that he hates the President and the American Government so he is more honest than you are. Virtually everyone on this board recognizes what you are and who you are and that is someone that does not have anything better to do with their time other than to be a board whore making negative posts about America. If the search is working I am satisfied that I can pull up thousands of posts where you have made negative comments about America. You make them virtually daily. Now :321GFY asswipe, I will not respond to your lies, and BS anymore today. It is time for me to go out on the patio, watch the deer and throw a steak on the bar-b-Q.

right, because we have them and defend them. I guess in the deluded mind, our freedom, elections, liberty, and so on are only ours at the whim of the UN and its member dictators, communists, etc.:1orglaugh

Blow up and get a grip

How many GFY morons take to solve the Middle East crisis or screw a light bulb?

The US used to allow the IRA to raise money in America..
The US doesn't dislike terrorism, it dislikes terrorism it doesn't agree with.
Same as every other fucking country.

Just let the middleast beat the shit out of each other once and for all.

All this god gave me this land is fucking crap.. if god gave you the land why did you leave it in the first place, you should have died trying to defend it.

v4 media , were you born a moron or have you become one when you were 11?

You're Jewish, you cannot have an unbiased opinion.

How about nuking and starting over?

the middle east is fucked up

I lived with Palestinians in the same room for 6 months. They were reporting me to KGB and I was adding cleaning detergent to their coffee. I say I qualify for unbiased opinion better than 99% of those GFYers who render an opinion and can't show where all those countries are on the map.

To all GFY morons I have only ONE question to ask:
who killed the most Palestinians?

1) Israelies
2) Americans
3) Jordanians in the 50's after Palestinian uprising in Jordan?

If you don't know the answer - fuck off and stick to what you know better:
cum, pussies and asses.

yeah and cowtown is the perfect start.

Not the largest contributor by far, 22% versus Japan 19%, and I can't recall US military contributing any troops to any of the ongoing hotspots around the world.

ok, morons, I know you have no clue, so I'll help you, so you could learn somethign useful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan

interesting, but what's your point?

my point is that
1) Arabs killed more Palestinians than Israel ever did
2) All morons who throw their uneducated 2 cents and blame Israel for all things imaginable,
should learn history and pass the blame where is truly belong-
Arab nations who use Palestinians as pawns in their fight against Israel instead of dealing with Palestinian problem.

Actually...I can't blame Arab countries for the lack of desire to be over run by Palestinians, like Jordan almost was back in a day.

Pretty cool..
Jordan's King Abdullah was an extra on Star Trek: Voyager

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Star_Trek.jpg

Cowtown isn't acting like they are God's plan... just because some old fuck said so....

Why are you even in porn if you are a Jew? You cannot be in porn and a Jew. It is impossible according to your own books... So fuck off you idiot!

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It's my personal opinion (not that anyone will agree with me) that we're all a bit fucked up. Who killed the most, who gave the most, who took advantage of who, could go on for months. The world is a jacked up place and each country mostly looks out for it's own interests, be that good or bad.