Use the banners and pics exactly as shown. No text-only or pic-only links. No unreadable text - like blue text on a black background.

Adult sites only. No non-adult freehosted sites like Tripod or Geocities.

Do not 'help' people click on it by changing or adding new text, you'll just screw yourself. Maximum text size is +1 bold.

You may resize the pics no smaller than 360x240 or 240x360. Do not link our site directly from thumbnails.

We must be able to view the referring pages and links. If our links are not found on your referring pages, referrers are hidden by cgi, or if right-clicking does not show our url, you will be terminated.

You must host the pics/banner on your server. Do not serve them from our site. See HotLinkPics.com

No email or newsgroup selling (spamming) of users or webmasters. Clicks without a referring url will be discarded.

No password, warez, or illegal sites. No references to these items on your site, such as "animal sex" or "young teens".

No foreign language is allowed anywhere on your site.
Sites with primarly foreign language traffic sources are also not allowed.

Do not "target=" a new window or display our site in a frame, display our link in a console, redirect or new window, or show any console when someone clicks on the Amateur Pages Link.

Lensman, you should point his thread to the cheater... public embarrasment being part of the punishment :winkwink:

Use the banners and pics exactly as shown. No text-only or pic-only links. No unreadable text - like blue text on a black background.

Do not 'help' people click on it by changing or adding new text, you'll just screw yourself. Maximum text size is +1 bold.

You may resize the pics no smaller than 360x240 or 240x360. Do not link our site directly from thumbnails.

We must be able to view the referring pages and links. If our links are not found on your referring pages, referrers are hidden by cgi, or if right-clicking does not show our url, you will be terminated.

No foreign language is allowed anywhere on your site.
Sites with primarly foreign language traffic sources are also not allowed.

Do not "target=" a new window or display our site in a frame, display our link in a console, redirect or new window, or show any console when someone clicks on the Amateur Pages Link.

He's usin your pics in the wrong way too.

Do I win yet?! lol... Daddy need a new divx containa.

Screw that page it's a pain in the ass to look at...
poping shit up and screwing with my screen size..

Find another one Lens...:winkwink:

hes adding in new words under the banners and no pop ups...

its also a gay site :) which is agianst my rules hehehe

breaking the rules like a crazy mofo

Lensman, you might want to check your 'EXIT' link on the first page http://ctc.amateurpages.com/wendy as I get a 'page cannot be found' (and, err, NO is meant to mean 'NO'...)

hm,i think i have posted the same a month ago.

Is being gay against the rules too? Because if it is you break them.

looks like he's cutting up your pics and maybe replacing the www.amateurpages.com with something else
pops a console when clicking a ap link
opens new window when a AP link is clicked
not using the correct text, text size, or absence of required text
www.ev1.net is not a adult host
right clicking does not show url

found another one :)
not using the correct html code from hotlinkpics.com - just hotlinking the pic

1. Showing AP ClickPic links in a console or new window. And links open in console without full navigation.

2. Links with pics are not approved links.

3. Blind Mouseovers

4. Console opens when our link is clicked.

5. And he has STOLEN our content without copyright marks and is linking it to another sponsor.

That's what I see right away. Who pegged all that first?

And the Winner is... DrewKole

Many of you were close. But he actually named them all!

Drew shoot me an email with your contact info and we will have the HD sent out right away.

Ok, first things first... I dont have any text anywhere on the site, that is the same color as the BG. If I do, show me, and it will be fixed.

I got an email saying to SEND US ALL YOUR TRAFFIC, which is what I did with the POPUP, and even told RAM about it. Since I couldnt tell the ratios, I thought everything was ok!

As for text links under pics, I used the ones i found on "AMATUER Money" pages. It said they were all acceptable, so I chose them. Didnt realize it was unacceptable.

The "console" that opens when an AP link is clicked, opens is an EXIT pop, so it opens anytime my site is left, or a link is clicked. I guess I didnt read the rules carefully, as I didnt realize I wasnt allowed to have an EXIT pop for regular site traffic.

I have spoken numerous times over email with RAM, and he instructed me what to fix, and I did. The next email i got from him, I was thanked for doing so. Since then, I have gotten ZERO emails from RAM or LENSMAN telling me what is wrong with my page, so how am I supposed to know?


As for stealing your content and using it on my site, I am an affiliate, and affiliates are allowed to use the content. right? If not, the 3 galleries I have are stolen as well.

LENSMAN, this is a very shitty way to do business, to bash me like this, without a proper email to me, giving reason for not paying, or telling me"fix the screw-ups"!

I, wish to do great business with you, and like I said, I have told RAM in several emails, that I was useing the POP, and gotten either no response, or responses here on this board saying its fine as long as your in ratio!

The bulk mail to all webmasters said: "Send us all your traffic (follow the rules of course)."

Nice try cheater man.

Could I get the rules in mp3 format please...
I don't read so good.:helpme

How are we supposed to know whats allowed and whats not, when its posted here NUMEROUS times, POPS are allowed, if your in ratio? Well, theres no ratios now, so how could I be out?

QUESTION FOR LENS? How old are you? Does a big company like yours, not handle things professionaly?

can i be broad and say "he violated all of them"

as long as he violates one, nuke his ass. :)

Wait till your account gets nuked for a rule violation. You'll be singing an altogether different tune then.

that's why i play within the rules, and if i know i'm doing something stupid or partially stupid, i know i'm operating on non-guaranteed ground.

This one of course violated too many..

Just out of curiosity, how long have you been in this biz?

in and out for a while, why do you ask?

I accidently violated 1 of the rules a while back. RAM contacted me to make the fix. I did... and I'll tell you what... EVERY TIME I POST ANYTHING that has to do with AP, I fucking read the rules.

You were given a chance obviously, just admit that you fucked up and you tried to screw them. You didnt violate 1 or 2 rules AFTER BEING WARNED.. but 5.

5 CHEATER 5!!!!!!!!

Actually guys, RAM contacted me, and asked me to fix the "target=" links, and that I resized pics to a size they didnt like. Those are the 2 things I was warned about, and got the email to prove it. I fixed what I was asked to fix, and got another email thanking me for doing so.

Then, I get roasted by Lensman for it. :mad:

So who won?

I see lots of people promoting celeb stuff. Some say that it's legit because it's not them, but their sponsor who is responsible (therefore, if their sponsor is doing it illegally, the webmaster isn't in the wrong, since he got the banner from the sponsor). Hmm.... I don't really think that's the way it goes...

Your site sucks juge....

Surely JUGE isnt here to talk shit about me for "cheating", if he is, take a look at his page:


<a onclick="turnoffpopup()"
onMouseOver="window.status='http://www.amateurpages.com/';return true"
onMouseOut="window.status='';return true"
href="http://ctc.amateurpages.com/cgi-bin/ctc/ctc.cgi?86531465" target="_top">


Thats part of the same shit, that I was being blamed for!

LENSMAN, why is it you wouldnt accept my phone calls today? The lady at your desk told me you werent accepting my calls, and for me to wait till MONDAY for RAM to get back! Wassup with that?

imho i wouldn't think hiding the ending piece is against the rules, as long as they can see which website they're going to. of course it depends on the program though.. i'd read the rules first :)

I didnt think it was problem with, but I was told its cheating!

mike503 is right and easyjesus is wrong. chill out with calling Juge a cheater. he's not cheating at all. i told you (in icq) that you have to go read the Amateur Pages rules before you come here and argue about everything you have been accused of. calling other people cheaters (when they are not) is only going to make it worse.

the rules are: you are allowed to cloak "http://www.amateurpages.com/" but NOT "001.jpg" or anything similiar for all AP links. there is a WORLD of difference in those two choices.

i think you just misunderstood. it's cheating in some ways, but not the way Juge does it.

All i said is it was pointed out to me, in the numerous posts about my site, that it is CHEATING!

precisely my thinking :)

zip: So don't the bitches on it. ;)

easyjesus: I am not cheating. You are breaking every rule possible (thus the reason of this thread), and if you think I am cheating, then you obviously do not understand the rules.

Regarding my 'cheating' (cloaking the account number off of the URL) - I have cleared this up with the folks at A.P. over 2 or 3 years ago... it is okay.

Just think about it: The banners are linking to A.P. with text links such as "500 Free Pics". If you have a URL with an account number, then you are indicating (to any smart surfer) that you are sending them to a pay site. If A.Pages wanted everyone to think they were going to a pay site right off the bat, they would not want us to say 'Free Pics' in the text below the banner.

Please Note that I am still indicating that the surfer is going to A.P. - I am not fooling them in any way. If I told them they were going to some other page like 'freepics.com' - then YES, I would be cheating - but I am NOT. There is a huge difference between the two.

You better chill out before accusing people of cheating before you know any facts.

Ok, i overreatced to the links on JUGE, and I apologize. I was and still am so heated over this bullshit! Half the shit im accused of "cheating" for, I dont even see on my site as it is.

FORMAL APOLOGY GOES OUT TO JUGE! I am a man of class, not this tasteless shit that some others like to pull **cough,cough** no names mentioned.

I am so heated over all this, and LENSMAN refuses to accept my calls, what kinda crap is that? Big Time Business man and company like that and they refuse to accept calls from clients/affiliates.

Anywho, as the lady on the phone instructed me, I am to wait till monday from RAM to return! :helpme

Thanks bro! :thumbsup

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 5:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: AP Stats Update and Payout Bonuses

Fellow Webmaster-

As you know, we switched the AP ClickPic program last Friday to
the new stats system and things have been 100% reliable. The CTC
data import is complete as of this morning and all of your stats
are available dating back to April 1. All referrers have been
restored including your referrer cash, if you referred webmasters.
You will be able to edit your personal information and password
protect your stats by tomorrow morning.

8 cents per clickthru is still in force and remember that you are
locked in at 6 cents for the rest of the month to make up for any
downtime due to CTC.

So by all means, send as much traffic as you can to Amateur Pages.

Thanks for the Support,

Lensman
www.amateurmoney.com

Thats the reason for the POPUP I was using, as it states "So By All Means"

Learn some real Engrish, but I can the see TV lawyers and frustrated english proffessors in here will be debating this for weeks.

I say call in Judge Judy now and get it all sorted out !! :1orglaugh