oh the irony.

They don't want their own affiliates to advertise Fleshlight using the word " fleshlight" but it is ok for them to advertise on sites with stolen content. :upsidedow:warning:warning:helpme:warning:Oh crap:upsidedow

you guys do realize that this has been part of their TOS for sometime now right?

atleast a year or two, since i had signed up

A follow up email will be sent out addressing the concerns brought about by a vague email that was not written by myself and not approved before sending out. The main focus is on the AdWords and using our terms. The new email will give a better explanation.

cool good you make that clear, had me worried a bit.

This is true. Rather common actually.

Sounds reasonable
 

I was wondering if I had a sub-domain setup for indexing purposes could I use for example.

fleshlight-girls.prismvod.com ( being directly pointed to your associate program? ) just as an example...

Thanks for your time FleshJosh,

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kinda .. not too many products "are" the name

its hard to describe fleshlight in an ad without using the word fleshlight.

"fleshlight" in a domain is ok? Yes or no.

not to make light of this thread, Josh! how ya been dude? Hit me up on ICQ sometime and let's catch up. I won't be at any WM shows for awhile so..

I got the same thing,it was a canned email, as you say :winkwink:

You do realise that people searching for the term "fleshlight" is due to your affiliates BRANDING the freakin term right?

So what you've basically done is wait and till fleshlight is well and truly out there and figured hey alot of people actually search for fleshlight. Let's ban our affiliates from being able to bid on these terms from now on and keep all the money.

stop crying already its not like you have any traffic

all of your AdWords, AdCenter, YSM traffic are belong to us.

I can see asking the competition to stop bidding on the Fleshlight trademark.....but to stop your own affiliates? Who have pretty much made the Fleshlight a frathouse name? On sales that you're going to be getting anyways?

Cutting off the middle man FTW!

That would be a profit for you as well... no?

I agree 100%
We're all in this together...why make war when we should make sales :winkwink:

So FleshJosh and Co, please be kind to your affiliates from now on ;)

Hence Proved! :thumbsup

See what BoyAlley said above.

I second that!

Programs don't like bidding on their name. AFF is also an example.


And by the way, FleshJosh .. hire some professional to write terms and conditions for you. Also the emails related to reminding of terms.

You are saying here that you can use "fleshlight" on-page and in domain but your email says you cannot. WTF? :error
Refer to Varius's post for further details.

In short, Please, get your shit together.

ps. I am concerned. Because I also have a domain name with "fleshlight" in it.

to talk about torrents or spyware? bro.

bingo!!!!

It's funny how all the sites that advertise on torrent sites seem to make a donation to the Free Speech Coalition.
Fuck Fleshlight you torrent supporting cocksuckers

Yes even the original TOS found here: http://www.fleshlightcash.com/external.php?page=terms

say you cannot have the term "FLESHLIGHT" in the domain or in your meta keywords...

This is some confusing shit :Oh crap

ok, how about an email detailing why you guys are supporting torrent sites like adultsins .net that are putting operators like me out of business? was that a policy that wasn't written by yourself either, will i get a "better explanation" on that matter via email anytime soon, bro..?

Don't you think they should have some shit to use as last weapon? Kick the webmaster and keep his money? :321GFY

Look out Charlie Brown.... The torrent hater gang is going to take you down. WHOO AHHH! :1orglaugh

Muh knee's actin' up... storm's brewin'. Gunna be a big'un.

Thanks for bringing that up, its funny they care about their trademark but having their banners on sites that giveaway others content is ok. Thats funny.

I think you guys are making way too big of a deal about the email.

Yeah, it was poorly written and confusing. The guy came in and cleared up what the email was supposed to convey, and apologized. I think it's time to stop crying about it. It's their policy. If you don't like it, don't promote them.

Re read the thread I didnt bring it up. I was replying to it. :upsidedow

I was just glancing and yours spoke to me :)

I got the same email and thought it was directed at me also.....in fact I loaded up my domain list and tried to find what domain I had with fleshlight in it...when I didn't find one I hit reply and was about to send you all a email asking why you thought I was violating

before I hit reply I came to gfy...LOL

You're obviously someone that didn't invest your hours, money, traffic and hard work into helping build Fleshlight into the brand that it is today....only to be told to either comply or leave it all on the table.

I got the same fucking e-mail and im not an affiliate. Think you got your spam lists mixed up ?

why didn't the email just say adwords and nothing else?

Of course they do , torrent sites cant possibly keep 2257 records for stolen videos thus if your affiliate base is sent to jail its rather hard to make money.

That being said i have noticed a small decline in the fleshlight ads on torrent sites and other sites with stolen content, hopefully this continues and is not just a diff ploy to get some free cash by letting torrent sites ride until their checks don't come

Those rules are pretty rediculous... you want affiliates to promote your "fleshlight" yet, not refer to it as a "fleshlight" for fear that the affiliate will get better SE rankings that your own site?

Support your affiliates or market it on your own.. you can't have it both ways.

I also got the email. You really got your knickers in a twist about that? Wow..

I'm amazed at the level of reading comprehension so many people appear to have..

they just flashed out their tos

Since affiliates are in big part responsable for the global "branding" of the product, which directy affects the number of SE searches, I don't see a legit reason to prohibit affiliates from getting their 'share' of that global branding.

The trademark argument is stupid. Fleshlight.com already get a shit load of indirect type-ins sales from the affiliates, which you don't have to pay.

This is normal and out of control, even if the affiliate program want to give the commission to an affiliate who seen his sale slip due to the customer typing "fleshlight.com" instead of clicking on the banner. (and a lot actually type fleshlight in their google bar instead of clicking the affiliate banner)

Having said that, you can run your affiliate program the way you want, but I don't think it is a good ethic move towards your affiliates, especially since the copyright protection argument doesn't sound legitimate since all the keywords searches are going to fleshlight.com -- the difference is that you have to pay commissions and you can keep the 100's of daily sales from SE for yourself.

Without the affiliates, you won't be doing 100's daily sales from SE's - You think it is fair? Well, no... not at all.

We lost $40,000 last year from the NATS fiasco, and now this. What is the next thing for 2008?