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Va2k 10-02-2002 06:29 PM

:1orglaugh

DatsMyStapler 10-02-2002 06:30 PM

RatBoy Collins

Cindyff 10-02-2002 06:34 PM

This is my view on Globill. We have used them as a secondary processor for just over 12 months now. They have a fantastic chargeback policy with a warning page that is in my opinion out of this world and i am surprised other processors haven't copied it.
I think in all that time we have called Globill just once about a password problem. I think these guys are 100% and would not BS just to get more accounts in the short term. Since this all blew up i have written to my other two processors telling them that we are putting Globill as our prime processor on all our sites.
Ibill are so useless that we even dropped their Rev share program in favor of Epochs. Since we did that our calls to their support department have gone from 5 times a day to almost Zero saving us hours or unnecessary work each week?
I agree with the guys that say the chargeback issue is our ( Adult Webmasters ) main problem. If you don't have a processor that will stand up to these fraudulent claims from members that are just out to fuck the webmaster, then you are fucked from the start. We have our own Merchant account and will be using that in future. But now i hear that Visa, Mastercard charge an arm and a leg to anyone in the adult industry who want to open an account with them for on-line transactions.
There is a company that we are going to try called XChargeBacks who deal with prepaid billing hence the name X or no chargebacks. Anyone heard anything good or bad about them.
At the end of the day most adult webmasters are so resourceful that they will come up with a way around this shit !!!:Kissmy :moon :repuke :throwup

Robert 10-02-2002 06:39 PM

glo-bill rocks! .. that's why we use them @ teenscontent.com
:thumbsup

wonton 10-02-2002 06:40 PM

Ratboy
Quote:

I THINK (also, just a theory) that Epoch, iBill, and CCBill banded together on this one to promote thier own PROFIT MARGIN. Otherwise it would not have been a JOINT ANNOUNCEMENT. They needed solidarity on this issue to make it work profitably for them.
I think Ratboy hit the nail on the head. The "big three" banded together and found a way to use Visa's new fees to their advantage. Of course a chunk of that $750 is going to go into their pocket. That's major moola for a processor with tens of thousands of webmasters. Globill took the tougher and more ethical route and busted their ass to find a solution that works better for their clients. In the long run this strategy will prove to be the wise. It's like the Walmart philosophy. When they get better deals from their sellers, they automatically pass the savings to their shoppers instead of gaining on the higher profit margin for the short term. This makes more people shop at Walmart. In the long run the more ethical practice always wins!

Just my :2 cents:

erotictrance 10-02-2002 06:43 PM

Nah ... I don't believe it.

Only time will tell, of course, but I wouldn't be surprized if this was just a Globill marketing ploy ...

[H] 10-02-2002 06:43 PM

I agree. This stinks of a profit deal between IBill, Epoch, & CCBill.

Globill is shining.

sexyclicks 10-02-2002 06:45 PM

It would be very nice if someone from another processor comes and gives us an opinion about what globill is saying.

[H] 10-02-2002 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexyclicks
It would be very nice if someone from another processor comes and gives us an opinion about what globill is saying.
They did. Epoch threatened us. CCBill denounced Globill. And IBill is nowhere to be found as usual.

DatsMyStapler 10-02-2002 06:47 PM

RatBoys onto something. Hey RatBoy, you think OJs in on it?

Brown Bear 10-02-2002 06:48 PM

Yeah, whats the deal with the big three putting out a joint release?

somethin smells fishy, and it aint pussy!

Honeyslut 10-02-2002 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
I think one thing that people are overlooking, is that VISA is the one who makes the rules regarding chargebacks, so their "high risk" factor is bullshit.

If they did not allow jerk-off surfers to charge back so easily, there would be a lot less problems IN GENERAL. I think there are lots of other things VISA could do to secure the system opposed to just laying it all on us.

Do they think they're fucking God or what???

:BangBang:

I agree ! There should be a NO CHARGEBACK rule for porn... So simple

Sites that use Glo bill have zero or very LOW chargebacks. Top notch company. It amazes me that people are saying crap.


I would not doubt it if Glo bill got a sweet deal with visa and had their own visa..

RATBOY 10-02-2002 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DatsMyStapler
RatBoys onto something. Hey RatBoy, you think OJs in on it?
"The hairs cannot be split."

wonton 10-02-2002 07:05 PM

If the chargeback doesn't fit, you must aquitt!

kevinl 10-03-2002 03:20 AM

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I would not doubt it if Glo bill got a sweet deal with visa and had their own visa..
I agree. They don't let chargbacks happen. They run a very tight ship. I doubt Visa hears a lot of shit about them.

Jon 10-03-2002 03:39 AM

Well I'm kinda glad this shit storm happened today and not tomorrow. We are launching a shitload of paysites and WERE going to go with EPOCH.

Glad to say we just signed up with Glo-Bill instead because of all this crap going on we really dont need to get caught up in this crap. Good job to the guy at Epoch who posted that lovely thread pretty much acting like a whiny snotty stuck up ex-wife saying "oh yeah well if you leave who says im gonna take you back" -- we just want a good processor, not a whiny bitch who charges us fees for this and that.


to the guy who said this -- "Epoch threatened us. CCBill denounced Globill. And IBill is nowhere to be found as usual."

that made my day!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Brown Bear 10-03-2002 04:24 AM

Go! Go! Glo-Bill!

Jizar II 10-03-2002 04:27 AM

I agree itīs nice if globill is not affected by this, but honestly, how can it be possiple??? it doesnīt make sense

Brown Bear 10-03-2002 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jizar II
I agree itīs nice if globill is not affected by this, but honestly, how can it be possiple??? it doesnīt make sense
Yeah, but I doubt that Glo-Bill would be making statements like this if they knew they weren't gonna be able to do whatever they're doing.

Time will tell though.

ControlThy 10-03-2002 04:42 AM

Could it be that these new VISA regulations will only be applicable to EPOCH, IBILL and CCBILL because they have problems keeping control of their chargeback ratios and GloBill is not?

Could it be?

PornBroker 10-03-2002 06:31 AM

Glo-Bill.......15.95% processing fee + 10% rolling reserve....

I thought paying 13% + 5% reserve was heavy!!

webmite 10-05-2002 12:57 PM

I use Globill, Epoch and CCBill. CCBill is okay but Epoch has been known to screw webmasters in the past.

I concur it's fishy that 3 processors banded together -- Epoch, CCBill and Ibill.

There are 2 reputable processors that DO NOT charge those exorbitant fees, as follows:

Globill - now a major player, as far as I'm concerned.

ACPay - this is the new processor from Cybernet Ventures, the Adult Check people, who are reputable.

Dax 10-05-2002 01:53 PM

Don't you all forget Jettis.. who WILL refund the fee to you..

And funny thing is.. since the start of this year i switched to Jettis and Globill ... fuck about time I did something right.. :1orglaugh

Clovis 10-05-2002 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear
I really really really wanna believe Glo-Bill, but its hard to believe that CCBill, IBill, and Epoch don't know what they're doing.

I believe in the checks that I get, that is the bottom line. I get paid on the mark from CCBILL, EPOCH and IBILL, but GLO-BILL I dont trust for shit.

call me rude but money talks

Clovis

webmite 10-05-2002 02:13 PM

I never had any problem with Globill paying on time. I would bet ACPay is okay, too, as I've been paid on time by Cybernet Ventures (Adult Check) on time for the last 4 years.

I never had probs with CCbill. Epoch, on the other hand, had problems for several months 2000-2001 when many paychecks were months late. They eventually paid up, but that left a sour taste in my mouth about Epoch.

webmite 10-05-2002 02:16 PM

And Epoch was up to no good a couple years ago when they extorted webmasters for thousands of dollars to continue reseller program.

Hell, reseller programs are allowed for free by everybody else.

Krome 10-05-2002 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
Time will tell if Globill is really on to something. If so, will CCBill, Epoch, etc. follow suit? Either way, won't VISA just adjust their policies accordingly?
If they dont they will be fucked...new business will go to Globill along witht the exodus that is currently happening....:Graucho

Brown Bear 10-05-2002 02:24 PM

Epoch had a bad reputation in this biz and its getting worse with Epoch's arrogant comments on this board.

dieselaction 07-25-2003 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by A.Martin
theking, here is the simple answer: "No. Glo-Bill is not affected by the new regulations."


another golden one

:ak47: :ak47:

Kimmykim 07-25-2003 04:13 PM

Oh the irony of THIS thread.

CDSmith 07-25-2003 04:14 PM

Talk about having one's words come back to bite them on the proverbial ass.


Owtch.

playa 07-25-2003 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear
Epoch had a bad reputation in this biz and its getting worse with Epoch's arrogant comments on this board.

Care to retract your statement

rip raster 07-25-2003 04:37 PM

So bottom line are the webmasters going to get paid?



Rip


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