" ... give you a right to cause even more severe damage to the cheater's isp, other people using that isp (if it's virtual) and as can ..."

... and in this case what about the boxes that share the router with the attacked domain at candihosting.com ???

The attack is still underway, The Hun and I have been working together to shut down some theives, and I think this is a retalitory attack.

I haven't been able to bin down exactly where on his page the code is though.

A. GFY is in our own datacenter.

B. It doesn't effect anything else on our network, the server GFY is on can take a couple million hits a day, but it's the VBulletin scripts that can't. Mike's filter works great as you can see, but it has to deny 100,000 connections an hour!

You guys are the ones who are in power to do so.

Nice.

We will sit it out.

:smokin

why dont you go ahead and make thehun a private submit only tgp?

I would even pay for this - like im doing with some other tgp's?

Like i said... He has some sort of thing that tracks the first 10 ip's. Then after that all the ip's will be redirected to the url of his choice. You will find nothing in his source.

You're an idea man, I like that.

If it's in your own datacenter why not block it in the router instead
of having a server to deal with it......? this can't be too hard to stop.

DynaMite :2 cents:

Hmmm, never seen a router block by referring URL.... IP, Mac Address ect but not by URL. I'd like to get a look at that router.

Hey the Hun, its GFY & not FGY, just in case you forgot:)

How come awhile ago I wanted to post a quote to someone and GFY poped a screen User: Password: and I think Domain... I had to reboot....

If that's all they do it shouldn't be too difficult to catch them. If somebody wants to discuss this just hit me up on ICQ (5210719).

I had a bunch of these galleries slip past me on my tgp, he does not use drawnsex to post, he uses several different nameservers and 50+ domains to post with and his galleries are top notch

Make people pay to submit galleries. Less cheaters.

Whatever happened with that idea anyways? I liked it.

I'm with TGF.. shoulda just listed my galleries... 1 every 3 days, and I've never ever tried to cheat. :)

Seriously, though, it is kind of frustrating to never get listed inlieu of pricks like this drawnsex guy getting listed enough to be able to cause something like this. hrm.

I find The Hun's action a little amateuristic, but I'm impressed by the power of The Hun.

PK, that's because GOD IS BRAZILIAN

Interesting situation here...fun to follow.

Or as Bush would say it "Fool me once shame on"

Well FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I did NOT know how much iam addicated to this place. SHIT Couldnt get on since I got up fucked my whole day up... HOLY shit I need to find where I left my life and go back and beg it to come back home. :helpme

There was a discussion about paying for submissions and such a while back here on the GFY. I see one big problem with it that made me decide not to go through with it: it would create an obligation. I think when people pay to be able to submit that they'd be pissed off if I would decline their gallery 'cause I didn't think it was good enough. I could put this all in the rules and everything, but if I'd decline it money would be wasted.

The only way to clear that problem would be to accept the galleries first and then let the payment decide if an accepted gallery would indeed be listed or not. Problem with that is that if a cheater would know the submission would be placed he'd pay some money for it to let it go through. The fees wouldn't be too hight. I will have payment information for a submitter like that, that's true... 'cause ways of payment are harder to come by than IP-addresses...

I realise the whole IMG-Source thing (which is roughly what I did, it works a little differently) could take down people that are 'merely' on the same server with another virtual account. In this particular case that wasn't how it was. But I used this trick before. This is all about people that do not want to listen and fail to show any respect for me, my site and my rules (which I can set on my own site I think). It is a 'last resort'... well, not truely, there's some other tricks I have up my sleeve, but I never had to use those yet, it will be a lot of fun finding out if they would work.

I'm pretty sure the kid who runs Drawnsex reads this as well, so I won't go into detail. But don't worry, he'll be the first to know anyway ;-).

I had to make excuses to hosts and stuff before. They all don't like the results of the actions taken, but most of 'em respect the reason I did it. The host is warned about any violations or cheats someone is pulling. The img source is only used if this host fails to even give so much as a reply...

It's a very shady thing to do, I realise that 100%. But would you do nothing if people disrespect any of your rules and 'cause hundreds of your visitors to be caught in a site stuffed with rape pictures and dialer programs?

In this case I wrote online-dialer, which is the company drawnsex.com is sending traffic to. Not even a single reply from them. Next time a gallery sneaks through I might have to pull this very stunt I did here directly on the host. Or I might want to find a better way first ;-)

Anyway, this whole cheating business every now and then pisses me off so much that I spend a lot of time trying to get these people down. My visitors get pissed off 'cause of drawnsex and I will do just about everything to keep my visitors happy. I'm sure this drawnsex kid does this to pretty much all link-sites out there. He goes by a lot of domains and a lot of names.

Cheaters do cause a lot of work. I blacklisted the whole of Cogent simply 'cause they were a haven for mostly Russian webmasters who cheated on every possible way. And they had accounts on pretty much all cogent's boxes. Blacklisting a domain-name wouldn't work. A couple of bucks buys you a new domain. It's not that webmasters are too lazy to blacklist only the cheaters instead of the entire domain, it's just almost impossible to filter out the rotten apples completely without blacklisting the whole IP-range. Another example of the good having to suffer for the bad. Unfortunately that's how things start to be...

Hun, please make payed submissions.

1. Lots of bullshit posters will be eliminated
2. Quality would skyrocket
3. Honest webmasters will benefit
4. There will be much less cheaters

I hear ya. I usually get listed at thehun. But only about 2, maybe 3 galleries per month. I follow the rules and submit every 4-5 days only. Never cheated, never will. (Thanks btw!)

The reason a guy like that asshole gets listed all the time is he is probably a good designer of galleries and he is buying new fresh content to build galleries with. When a sponsor lists new content, he buys, builds and submits. Then cheats like the rat asshole he is.

:BangBang:

woah. good thing my host uses Verio.

The hun...

The whole img scr thing is complete bullshit...

You effect other people more then your target...You can slow down routers...You can slow down servers...You could put a grinding halt to a entire network...

Do you not feel bad about this?

Not to mention it is illegal...This isn't all about people that don't want to listen...Its about you thinking you can just use your traffic to take down entire servers because they didn't respect you...What about all the users who didn't even fucken know you? I doubt they would respect you after you caused their site to go down for no fucken reason....

This is the bad thing about people with alot of traffic...They think they are god or something....

Jon

Hun, do you have any idea about the psychological damage you caused :sadcrying I don't think I'll ever recover... GFY can't ever be down ... :warning

They are. At least on the internet.

so rape isnt allowed but beasts are?

Hell no they ain't...Its cool and all they got that much traffic...congrats and whatnot...But I don't fucken care if someone has 10 hits a day or 1,000,000 hits a day...I ain't gonna look at em or treat em any differently...

I understand the hun feels he is being disrespected...But...I don't think its worth effecting innocent people...

Jon

He blocked the whole of Cogent!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !

Between that and being able to shut down the # 1 adult webmaster message board with a fraction of his traffic I'm starting to wonder if he should really change his name to Thor!

None of us are completely innocent.

hehe.... :-)

damnit GFY is slowing down again...Man your battlestations

Jon

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :Graucho :1orglaugh :warning

qt, please read the posts I made here. The decision is not as easily made as you imply here. But would you let your hard work taken down by someone who is only out to make a quick buck regardless how it's done? I don't just attack everybody I don't like, and actions like this are taken against people that redirect people straight to dialers, rape sites and/or child pornography. Is someone ads a console once his gallery is listed will be written, removed and blacklisted (in that order), but will not be harassed any more. This person in particular was already blacklisted with 40 of domains, written numerous times. Nothing helped. Like I said, it's a last resort. And I can use the tool 'cause I have the power, indeed, but to imply I act like God for using it in very rare occasions... sounds a bit overdone to me

That sucks.

Hit me up on email...

[email protected]

Or Icq: 59505407

Jon

Oh c'mon, whole cogent?

Sucks indeed... but where is there left to do? To Cogent I'm just some guy with a pretty story. If they'd take down cheater's sites I would put 'em back up in no time. There's quite a few cheaters on smutserver, but as soon as I write 'em the complete site is gone. That means all listings of that cheater are invalid, including the ones on other link-sites. That means a lot of work down the drain and usually the end of the cheater cheating...

I don't want to put too many limitations on who can submit and who can't. Seems there won't be any choices left through... And all 'cause of one or two cheaters, 'cause I'm really not talking about a lot more of those...

play the img src game, and eventually you will get burned.

O quiet, I know... and I don't mind baring the concequences of that. So far it solved a lot of things for me... Most cheaters don't have the resources to crawl back up from a blow like this. It's fighting fire with fire, I realise that like I said before. But sometimes I think fighting fire with fire can be justified...

Nah man, not that you act like god, the fact that you are one of the few guys ABLE to do it is incredible! :1orglaugh

This board is is one of the most active boards on the net, frequented by some of the most hyper-surfing biggest bandwidth hogs on the entire net!

Bringing this place down isn't the easiest thing in the world to do considering it's run by a guy who's used to pushing more B/W than 95% of the businesses on the web!

It's funny to me! You got the Hun logo but you are throwing lightning bolts!

http://www.paninicomics.de/images/sp.../thor/thor.jpg

I cannot imagine the number of cheaters that you have to deal with...

I probably get 1/100 the submissions that you do, and yet find 75-85% of the galleries cheaters or multi submitters (diff domains - same guys)

They must be using a script or something to mass reproduce and submit, but the viruses that they load on the pages, scripts etc are a real big pain

oh well c'est la vie, no simple answers for this

what I wanna know is, if Hun's hammer can bring whole server farms to their freakin' knees..., what the hell kinda inhuman monster fucking servers does Hun have that he's accepting all this traffic 24/7/365 smoothly??!

:eek7

his other company is called 'google', you might have heard of it ;p


hehehe


google img src-ing would be interesting...

Sometimes a little 1x1 present is a necessary evil lol...

So long as Lens doesn't care, I don't see it's such a big deal --

i'd say microsoft.com has alot more daily traffic then google.

Hun's not to blaim here, it's drawnsex.com that is at fault. That traffic the hun sent to drawnsex technically was then the property of drawnsex.com - even if it was meant to shut him down by overloading his server.
Once the hun's traffic (even if it was only an image pull) hit drawnsex's server drawnsex.com sent it to GFY to fuck up GFY. Drawnsex is at fault, not the hun.

You can only be held accountable for the actions you are responsible for - not for what others do.

Blaiming the hun for this is no different than blaiming Sears for selling OJ a kitchen knife.

hey fletch, the herb sucks out here, send me a care package

well, we all know Sears was totally at fault there....