You are a rapist and a cheater. Fuck you

Dude, give me a break. That whole post was to show Sleazy how stupid his "jealousy" theory was.

A Cheater talking about respect :1orglaugh That's an oxymoron if I ever saw one.:321GFY

Oh you are a prick peice of shit, I've wasted way too many goddamn days chasing your fucking domains. But it's ok, I've got sniffing you out down to a fucking science, nice kidporn toplists too, wonder if thats legal in russia ya fucking scumbag cocksucker

TGPKiller

You piece of shit, I'd like to send you a bill for all my time you wasted with your cheating redirecting fucking galleries. You think only redirecting 10% makes it okay??? I'm pretty sure there are a lot of webmasters that would like to discuss that with you face to face.

parney is a women dumbass. and a VERY VERY nice person.

hmmm..... so this is the guy?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=70145

has 'drawnsex.com' in the URl list up top, so looks like it.

Tis time for more Corona.

:glugglug

Now that is funny

Check! Didnt catch that!

So this is pretty wide spread and has been going on for some time.

1.) If you KNEW that the result of your redirections would result in The Hun img src'ing, then WHY THE FUCK would you STILL redirect from galleries that you submit to him? That a big fat DUH on your part!

2.) Saying that he should "expect cheaters" and that it's ok for you to cheat is like saying "Cops expect killers, so I'll run out and kill a few people - it's ok."

3.) Typical Russian Terrorist. Start shit, blame everyone else, punish the innocent and then say "Who Me??". No wonder everyone hates your fucking country! I've got a nice little piece of vacation country in Chechnya you might wanna check out.

it might sound funny, but the guy controls more traffic than the HUN

you are sorry ? ? ?

aren't you the one that decided to redirect to GFY ! ! !
:helpme

solution - don't submit galleries to the hun or anyone else anymore. Everyone's happy.

if you subit to someone's site you play by their rules, not yours. You seem to think the rules don't apply to you.

once again that depends on the quality of the traffic. If it's galleries then I have more traffic than thuhun.net on sleazydream.com -when I had a hypercount counter more than a year ago on my galleries I showed substaintially more traffic then thehun.net, and my current alexa rating is higher - but thehun.net is all on ONE PAGE - MUCH MUCH more profitable and you can do a lot more with it cause thehun isn't dependant on other people to post his galleries. I'd trade all my traffic in a SECOND without ANY hesitation for his.

No it's not the galleries, it's redirect traffic we are talking about, send it to sponsor, dialer, anywhere you want :Graucho

doubtful!

agreed.

If nothing else this thread has been a very interesting insight into the totally fucked up way Russian cheaters think.

here is another one

http://uncensoredpicz.com

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.THEHUNZ.COM
NS2.THEHUNZ.COM

The whole dam country needs to be *Black Holed*. The Internet does not need Russia.... Russia needs the Internet.

I believe the Hun is forecasting 7 billion hits this year (although I could have been plastered when I read that ):glugglug

hehe.. Jimmy, I just had to chuckle reading your post and then seeing the graphic in your sig.

Is dam funny don't you think..:helpme I was thinking about dusting of some tools and visiting that Russian's site... But I really don't like using that kind of brain power any longer...

FUCK YOU SCUMBAG!

Motherfuckers like you are the reason honest webmasters have a hard time with their submissions.

If I were in Russia I'd hunt you down and beat the fucking shit out you until you learn to be a man and not a fucking child raping moron.

And if I were Russian I'd fucking beat you harder and burn your house down 'cause you've giving russians a bad rep (as if that hasn't suffered enough).

What a crazy asshole... he admits that he's cheating but says he is not cheating and if he's cheating then it's not his fault cause it's the TGP owners job to ban his cheating ass.

Never heared such bullshit before... that's something only a cheater can barf

Everyone.
Look.

1.There are two problems here - legal and ethical.

Years ago when TGPs appeared a lot of big guys, running paysites, ran around crying to shut down TGPs because OBVIOUSLY they hurt their sales a lot.

And they couldnt do a shit, because although unethical (and it was unethical because when one person makes his money out of loss of others in the same industry that is called unethical) it was basicly legal.
Hun runs www.thehun.net and has every right to do anything he wants if it is legal there right?

Now these new TGP cheaters are not doing anything new. It's just the same thing many years later and QUITE NATURAL I might add.

Whatever they do - they do it on THEIR sites. Not on Hun's.

It might be unethical to Hun and TGP runners but essentially it's just totally the same what Hun and guys like him did to the adult industy years ago.

If You dont understand it - You're stupid. Ask anyone who's in this biz longer than 3 years.
Ask about sales BEFORE TGPs.

The ONLY thing Hun can do - check more Your galleries. Do it live, not with a program. And it's possible, otherwise You wouldnt be posting those galleries here all the time. And please dont say that it's hard. Hard is just a definition of cost in business.

Hun hires 20 guys to do it every minute and Hun is saved ,isnt it right?
Nope, because Hun doesnt WANT to pay to 20 guys. He doesnt want to loose money and he goes illegal - DDOSing and IMG sourcing. Well why the fuck? Years ago I am SURE no one in the adult industry liked to loose money because of TGPs.
But they were told - NET evolves. Live with it or get out. Now Hun...net evolves, live with it or get out.


2. If I were Hun I'd not do such stupid thing as IMG sourcing and stuff. As it was said, and it is true beleive it or not, the TGP killer is controlling about the same amount of traffic Hun does.

Dont think of it as a way to DDOS or IMG source Hun. The even fact that TGP killer redirects Huns IMG source always to GFY to gather an immediate public attention is a clear sign for everyone to see who's actually smarter of them two. Who's stupid and arrogant enough to make crap like IMG source and who's smart enough to show it to everyone in a simple way.

Now talking about poor russian cheaters, think of how much money that traffic of his makes. :) Now think that if the guy indeed wants to sue Hun - he is INDEED fincancially capable of doing that and has every right unlike many of You ass licking faggots around here. My personal excuses to each and every normal person here.

That's okay guys if you are going to cover the scum who thinks he is the God and uses img src to everyone who makes problems for him. That's your choise. I'm fine with it. :) I'm the really calm guy.

I don't see any reason to argue with you, so you can keep talking with yourself, may be this will help you somehow. :)

I really feel sorry about the guys who compare TGPs and redirecting to police officers and killers. I hope they can afford a good doctor. ;)

I'm not doing anything illegal by redirecting traffic, even if you don't like this. And my friends who do the same (a lot of friends, btw) also do not do anything illegal. So, I can tell you fuck off and rest in peace. :D

I have plain position - free porn is a huge problem for this business. And I fight against free porn, and make money from it. And have fun. :)

I'm calm and happy. Can't say the same about you. :)

You may keep giving out free porn, that's your choice, but you need to know that there are A LOT of guys, who are going to put some sticks in your weels...

Cya.

I bet he's shaking in his boots now.

TGPscumbag,

No wonder Russia is turning into crap.
Ppl like you and your friends are helping a lot

Funny thread.

"Or are you going to start killing people who submit bad galleries next?"

This would definitely get rid of the cheaters! ;)

TheHun,
GFY is still moving like molasses like me, so I suspect the img srcing is still going on? If so - it might be time to stop; evidently it's not hurting this guy whatsoever.
Have you tried going upstream on this guy? Contacting his host; if they don't answer, contact *their* upstream provider, if they don't answer, contact *their* upstream provider.

Such as if he's got his own server and he doesn't answer, then contact the company who hosts his server (let's say it's Rackshack). If they don't answer, then contact the bandwidth provider that he's on (Verio)... and so forth. Phone calls work better than emails. :)

I, for one, would NOT mind putting in full contact info to submit to you. Perhaps this is something to consider. Evidently you've given paid listings some thought and decided against it - and I agree but for different reasons; if you have the same 50 webmasters submitting all the time then eventually they're going to run out of ideas for fresh-looking galleries and to your surfers they'll all look the same. But there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Such as requiring full contact info, or requiring that the submitter's email match the WHOIS info for the domain, or that the WHOIS info for the domain the gallery is on simply must be valid (no 123-456-7890 stuff for the phone number, etc).

Or you could set up a few different servers on different IPs, sub-classes, and domains to do the cheat-detection. This wouldn't be too costly to do. *One* of them would catch the thing and ban it.

Another idea is to have a little button next to each listing where a surfer can immediately report a redirecting link. Any link reported this way would *immediately* go into a temporary "holding" file/database until it could be checked, and the link would drop off of your gallery listing immediately. You've got a lot of surfers who'd be more than willing to click on a simple link for you, thereby saving you a LOT of work! You could script a program to run through the temporary database and check them; some it could obviously ban instantly but others would need to be checked by hand.
Or just do a "surfers rule" type of democracy - if a surfer reports you as cheating, your gallery is gone. Period. No questions asked. Do not pass Go, do not collect 20,000 hits. :)

There are many different ways to go about reaching your goal. When you img src someone you *could* be affecting other sites on that person's server who have nothing to do with the fight between you and the gallery maker. Or on that person's router. When you're with a host it's not your fault if you get connected via router to a cheater - but you can indirectly pay the consequences for it when someone with huge traffic comes along and does an img src. This is totally separate from the "cheater redirecting somewhere else issue", and needs to be taken into consideration.

Btw, thanks for the time you've spent here explaining all of this -
:thumbsup

I remember the last message to you: continue this and you will be attacked again. YOU initiated the attack by submitting. If you don't submit to me you don't get attacked by me. Simple as that. In the mean time you're STILL -trying- to submit to me. So, hear this: ANY ATTEMPT TO SUBMIT TO MY SITE WILL RESULT IN ANY ACTION I CAN THINK OFF. There you have it. If you don't submit I'll leave you alone. But you want to swim in my pond. I make the rules in my pond, not you. If you don't like the rules: pick another pond. If you bend the rules to your own liking: expect to be be pushing under water. As a warning first, and an extra warning as second (both of which you recieved), but the third won't be a little warning anymore.

Respecting people means sticking to their rules. It's ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT you EVER respected me. If you didn't show a complete and utter disrespect for my rules we wouldn't have any problems now, do you understand that? Do you understand that I do not screw around with people that don't screw around with me? Don't try to put the blame elsewhere. You are the ONLY one to blame for this. You cheat, you carry the concequenses, easy as that.

The solution to "this problem" is easy. Stop submitting to me. And you can complain all you want that I didn't mail you, you KNEW damn well what was coming to you. You've been attacked before. Same thing happened then. The attack launced was a simple one. I can initiate that in about 30 seconds. I will get your server down if you EVER submit to me again. So if anything happens with your server it will be YOUR OWN FAULT. You've been warned over and over again. Submit me to me and know what happens. Now let this be 100% clear to you: IF YOU SUBMIT TO ME EVER AGAIN I WILL GET YOU DOWN. Obviously if you do not submit I will not take any actions. You've been warned

Ok, you're in Russia, so I can't sue you. Let me explain my position. If you cheat on people expect to get burned. Expect the whole thing to blow up right in your face. Simple as that. That is the risk that comes with YOUR JOB. You are to blame for this, I'm just attempting to make sure the rules I set for MY page are followed. If you don't follow the rules, expect to get hurt.

If you expect to disrespect someones rules completely and walk away unharmed you are probably a mad guy. Please expect your head to be on the heavens or any other pretty far place for cheating on people. Simple as that.

I banned your IP's, DNS's and everything. And you just registed new names and more to new IP-addresses. I made it VERY clear to you your actions weren't appreciated. VERY clear. You're playing Mr. Innocent here to proof anybody how God-like I act and how sorry we should all feel for Mr. Russian Cheater, but that's not working. Actually I'm glad you came forward here. You gave me the same BS last time. Oh, it's your job to delete it blabla I respect you blabla I'm from Russia so I'm poor blablabla...

Facts are simple: I have a page. My Page. My rules. Don't like the rules? Don't submit.

Submit anyway? Ignore requests? Show absolutely no respect? Well... you now know what will happen.

Damned, "I respected The Hun"... Hahaha! Don't make me laugh. You steal from someone, break every rule they have (submitting more than allowed, submitting using more than one e-mail address/name, redirecting, you name it) and then "loosing respect" when they get back at you?! Sorry attempt to gain people's sympathy here Mr...

May I point out again that you were swimming in MY pond? I set the rules there, not you. You submit to me, not the other way around. I can delete a gallery without breaking anybody's rules. My Site, My Rules. Comprende?

Posing cars is done out of enthousiasm. I feel the people here are people to share good stories with. I'm enthousiastic about the cars so I post it here. This has NOTHING to do with doing my job right or wrong.

I'm doing my job. I take care of my problems. I wrote you, wrote you again, wrote you again, you disregarded my requests and kept on cheating STATING EVEN YOU WOULD GO ON DOING THIS regardless of my requests... Then I took care of the problem with tougher methods. That's how you play these games. Someone here put it very well

1: ask 'em to stop
2: tell 'em to stop
3: demand 'em to stop
4: make 'em stop

You are at level 4 now. And I think I have been way too kind to you by sticking ing level 1 through 3 for so long

Oh, this is priceless. I tell you you're redirecting to rape sites. You reply "Oh, I'm NOT redirecting whole traffic, less then 10%"... LESS THEN 10% IS REDIRECTING TOO YOU MORON!!!!

I didn't cry here, I explained people what happened. Please get your facts straight.

We e-mailed before, remember? Did that work? No. not at all. SO WHY ON EARTH SHOULD I SPEND THE TIME TO TALK TO YOU THROUGH E-MAIL AGAIN?? I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH MY LIFE THEN TO E-MAIL WITH SOMEONE THAT HAS PROVEN TO IGNORE ANY OF MY REQUESTS ANYWAY. Why I didn't mail? Simple: you showed me on more than one occasion that mailing you wouldn't make any difference to the situation.

If you redirect a gallery submitted to me (which means you had a good gallery first that was reviewed and deliberately changed after it was posted) you didn't have ANY respect for me in the first place.

And I don't attack someone on the first redirect. Unless... you redirected to that kiddy porn toplist which is on your domain or to that rape site of yours. I explained it more than once on this board: an attack is always a last resort. When all else fails...


One piece of advice, or at least a request, do yourself and me a favor and stop submitting to my site. That will be the end of this whole problem. Me getting wound up over this is a direct result of you cheating. You are the cause of these problems. Obay rules or don't submit. Simple as that...

Here's some more submissions that just came in from Mr. Innocent Russian Cheater:

http://www.groooveslut.com/amat_1/re...eur_girl_.html
http://www.thebestxxxporno.com/tsgal06/tsgal.html
http://www.wetpornoteens.com/gal5/amat.htm
http://drunk-babes.com/rp/10-01/gallery.htm
http://www.porn-o-mania.net/tgp63/thehun.html
http://fakeall.net/14/teen.html

You've been warned what would happen Mr. Cheater. Stop submitting to my site... Easy solution, isn't it? STOP SUBMITTING!

Sounds kind of pathetic

Hun,Why dont you contact the sponsor on his legitimate galleries that he submits to you. Threaten to ban them and I'll bet they drop him.

If you fuck up his pocketbook then you have truly fucked him up.

It might come as a surprise to you, but without sponsors my site wouldn't be alife today... No link-site can survive without sponsors. Also, link-sites were there earlier than sponsors... Ask anybody who has been in this business longer than 5 years...
False... they submit to MY SITE... MY SITE, My rules. You can do anything on the Internet you want, I would never initiate action like I did to drawnsex, but if you submit me to me and ask me to list your stuff you stick to some very basic rules I set.
Absolute BS... Link-sites never cheated on sponsors. How can they? With blind links maybe, but I never had those on my site. This is something completely different
Sales before TGPs... hm... there were only people running their own paysites and a few amateur who put their pictures on the web. I think sales were good. But when portals started to appear that linked to previews and stuff sales went up. So the sites started to buy banner ads on my site. That's how it was 8 years ago... If you don't understand it... well... no problem. Ask anyone who's in this biz longer than 5 years... Ask PK, she was around before I was...
I do that. With robots AND live.
What conclusions. Do you KNOW how much money I spend? No! Ofcourse not. So please do not draw conclusions out of assumptions you can not verify at all. I spend a lot of money fighting cheaters. Now Incognito... the net evolved for the past 8 years and it will continue to do so... but so far I'm still in the saddle and keeping up...

Attention GFY!
:)
This is really COOL!

Look whom some of You support.

Go to www.thehun.net
Look between October 26th listings and 25th listings. There You see 2 PAYED banners. Click on the second one, which says TEEN DEEPTHROAT MOVIES.

You get forwarded here:
http://www.pornmoviesx.com/tour/h/
http://www.pornmoviesx.com/tour/h/blowjob.htm

Here are some of ad wordings from there:

"When she meets him on the stairs he wants to get his hard cock inside her cute teen mouth!! he forces her to Gag on his huge dick!! She can´t handle his large cock, but finally she manages to Deepthroat it down to the root!!! When he cums she is told to eat his cum!! "

"Forced to "enjoy" a 12 Inch monster cock!!Like to see small tight pussies getting pumped by huge Black males? In this clip, the little teen girl, gets a 12" moster cock rammed up her innocent pussy!! And it´s being forced down her tiny throat!! "

"Forced to suck and swallow cum in the forest!!!Again a totally insane clip, it´s not so long, but its very very good, this fucking slut, is getting forced to take the gigantic cumslut from the 2 maniac guys in the forest, no one gives a fuck about her!! Just the way we like it.. Rough all the way!!! "

"The young teen is deepthroating her babysitters big cock!!The little girl is left with her brothers friend, he is told to babysit her, but he don´t want to be alone with this energetic girl.. BUT then she shows him a huge dildo, that she took from her mothers room!!! Then the babysitter gets horny, and force the little slut to swallow his big cock!! HOLY SHIT.. She sucks and sucks, until he wants to ram her tight teen ass... he fucks her ass very deep!! This movie is a MUST SEE!!!"

"Violent Teen Blowjob Movies
Very hardcore and very violent, only movies with extreme deepthroat blowjobs, and cum eating, they almost puke!!!..."

"Brutal Teen Anal Movies
They asses are not ready for cocks, but nobody cares!! Huge cocks are tricked up their virgin asses, their gaping ass holes can´t take it all...Oh My GOD!!"

And so on and so on...
:) :) :)

Also contains unbeleivable photo material!
Pics like this:
http://www.pornmoviesx.com/tour/h/violent/2/5.jpg
http://www.pornmoviesx.com/tour/h/violent/2/6.jpg
and so on...hundreds of them actually.

I mentioned that serie with a special attention because these serie I think has it's rightfull place almost on EVERY rape fantasy paysite.


Now. This is taken from payed ads all over THE HUN right now and it is a clear rape fantasy.

Mr. Hun? You started all this crap saying that russian cheaters redirect their traffic on ...oh GOSH...rape fantasy!! Which You are as a very morale man truly find unacceptable.
All above is taken from a payed ad on your site. Care for an explanation?

Hun , honestly , You speak too much and that's the only thing You're good at.

And most people fall into it. Into the charm of words.

But the reality is - TGP's hurt sales great. Your TGP right now has payed ads of rape fantasy on one hand and You say that You are against rape fantasy at the same time. You image sourced the guy who redirected HIS OWN traffic, not yours.

As I said, accept Your problems and my advice is - dont go too far in Your rage till You clean out Your own shit, You might get burned Yourself.

Incognito......

I still am not sure that I know what is going on, but I cant believe you seem so happy to have found some rape content on the huns site!!

You have big smilies all over your post.........

I am sure that a massive TGP like this can live without that sort of crap....

You, wallowing in the glory of discovering it are the worst kind of hypocryt I know......