100 sad things..............:(

so you are saying that we evolved from animals that you are also arguing are just robots? :error

What about them? They serve a purpose. They are removed from some people because they get infected.

eh...... hrm..

Sad about prop 8.

As far as prop2 I voted yes. I think it's more of the younger crowd that is voting this way. I try to eat organic when I can. I'll pay the whole foods prices & I recycle. Even if they are gonna be food they shouldnt need to suffer before the time comes.
I guess I am sorta a tree hugger though. Ive got trashcans for each: plastic, glass and aluminum, paper. At this rate we should all be doing this. That's good 'nuff for me.


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Through the roof? I buy free range eggs and chicken. For the eggs, a cage-egg carton is usually about AU$3.50-$4.00. The free-range eggs are between $5.00 and $6.00. Really not that big of a deal. Plus the ones I get are free of growth hormones and anti-biotics. The yolk is generally darker and has more flavour. No idea why that is. I can only assume it's 'cause of the lack of anti-bioitics and growth hormones in the hens. As for chicken, typical supermarket prices for chicken breast are between $12 and $14 per kilo. I just picked up some free range chicken breast for $16/kilo.

My point is the difference in price is not that significant. And if that sort of thing were mandatory, the economies of scale would suggest the price would come down. Not as low as it is currently, but probably not too far off.

You have any idea how many Congressional hearings they would have if eggs went up $2.00 a dozen here? :1orglaugh

Yeah but if the whole market was free range, straight away the prices would come down as they'd need to be more competitive. Right now, they can charge more because concerned people are prepared to pay more. When everything on offer is free range, it's a level playing field and competition will do what it does.

Couple that with the economies of scale and I really don't think there'd be that big of a difference in the price in the long run.

i guess they should be drunk when they knock their heads off :1orglaugh

That was a joke right? How much space do you think we have just to let chickens roam around?

Well then only California natives should have to pay state taxes. As long as the state takes a piece of my paycheck I have a say in what goes on, I'm paying for it.


Humans are not masters of the planet, we're stewards. We can certainly eat animals and use their hides for clothing, but we have a responsibility to take care of them as well.



Animals, whether you believe they have emotions or not, are living beings. As such they deserve the respect that all living things deserve. They should not be mistreated or tortured. We can have eggs and meat without being cruel and driven solely by profit.

that said, this prop is a difficult one because we have to weigh out the need to treat animals humanely with allowing farmers to earn a living.

Just because you would not like to be stuck in a cage does not mean the chicken gives a damn. :2 cents:

We are still killing them, and... eating.
I don't know, all this has deeper roots!