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Paul Markham 01-25-2009 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15384082)
This is all very true and the fact that the tubes have ruined the biz is even more reason to join them if you cant beat them or maybe my new tube I am working on that takes all there content will teach them a lesson lol naa just kidding but it might just get to be bigger than theirs!

For many it's true. Many know how to drive traffic and little else. For those who know how to create, publish and sell porn there is another road.

I put in a free show for members and already conversion ratios are improving. Need to do more on the pages selling the show but as most know the last week has been a bit different for me. Spending more time in waiting rooms than the office. LOL

If you can create, publish and sell something the porn consumer prefers to Tubes you will survive. If you can't and think driving traffic is the answer you will not. No industry is based on giving it away for free. Even TV is now paid for. And they sometimes drop ads in every 12 minutes while you pay your cable bill.

donnylong 01-25-2009 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15384116)
For many it's true. Many know how to drive traffic and little else. For those who know how to create, publish and sell porn there is another road.

I put in a free show for members and already conversion ratios are improving. Need to do more on the pages selling the show but as most know the last week has been a bit different for me. Spending more time in waiting rooms than the office. LOL

If you can create, publish and sell something the porn consumer prefers to Tubes you will survive. If you can't and think driving traffic is the answer you will not. No industry is based on giving it away for free. Even TV is now paid for. And they sometimes drop ads in every 12 minutes while you pay your cable bill.

very very true but i am fed up with the tubes ruining our industry and i am going to take some of there cake and eat it too and i hope your waiting room experience is a good one!

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-25-2009 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15379618)
You want to be mature and explain? Or you to be childish like a some other peps around here that are nobodies because with that comment you fit right in! :1orglaugh

You are nothing more than a content dick, please try to not forget that in the future...

donnylong 01-25-2009 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 15384201)
You are nothing more than a content dick, please try to not forget that in the future...

your nothing more than a childish coward remember that every time you hide behind your keyboard and fake nick.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-25-2009 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15384260)
your nothing more than a childish coward remember that every time you hide behind your keyboard and fake nick.

stop thinking, keep fucking, that's what stupid people are good for. you're like janeb with a cock...

i don't have a fake nick, this is all me. if i ever do make my way south for a show, i'll gladly tell you to your scrawny ass face what a dumb cunt you are. you're not a big guy, you're not a smart guy, and you certainly are not in any way shape or form a scary guy. call me a coward all you'd like, i'm no more going to make a trip to see you in person than you would i. and your tough guy snapbacks are no less internet tough guy cowardice than my own.

enjoy your delusional little world of grandeur...

donnylong 01-25-2009 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 15384281)
stop thinking, keep fucking, that's what stupid people are good for. you're like janeb with a cock...

i don't have a fake nick, this is all me. if i ever do make my way south for a show, i'll gladly tell you to your scrawny ass face what a dumb cunt you are. you're not a big guy, you're not a smart guy, and you certainly are not in any way shape or form a scary guy. call me a coward all you'd like, i'm no more going to make a trip to see you in person than you would i. and your tough guy snapbacks are no less internet tough guy cowardice than my own.

enjoy your delusional little world of grandeur...

your such a big smart guy yea!!! whasts your big company again? dick head entertainment? :1orglaugh

MasterBlow 01-25-2009 03:32 AM

biggestporntube.com has PR 0 (zero) :helpme

donnylong 01-25-2009 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterBlow (Post 15384297)
biggestporntube.com has PR 0 (zero) :helpme

Its has been up 1 month!

Paul Markham 01-25-2009 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15384147)
very very true but i am fed up with the tubes ruining our industry and i am going to take some of there cake and eat it too and i hope your waiting room experience is a good one!

Tube sites never ruined our industry. The paysite owners who spend a fortune on giving out free content to get traffic that would never sign up ruined our industry. Think about it for a moment, we as an industry spend more money on getting traffic than what the traffic will buy, what keeps them buying and what makes them come back to buy. Tubes would never flourish and be competition to us if we spent 25% of our turnover on members areas. We spend a lot more than that on people who don't buy.

donnylong 01-25-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15385084)
Tube sites never ruined our industry. The paysite owners who spend a fortune on giving out free content to get traffic that would never sign up ruined our industry. Think about it for a moment, we as an industry spend more money on getting traffic than what the traffic will buy, what keeps them buying and what makes them come back to buy. Tubes would never flourish and be competition to us if we spent 25% of our turnover on members areas. We spend a lot more than that on people who don't buy.

I disagree because if there were no tube sites then dvd companies would still be in business and most of LA's business was dvd till about a year and a half ago.

SpicyM 01-25-2009 04:13 PM

cliphunter=tube?? Wow, I didnt notice that until now... looks like another good site went to shit :(

this could be one of the reasons why my sales dropped, as krawl was sending me the most sales from all tgps, bad news for me :(

donnylong 01-25-2009 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15386721)
cliphunter=tube?? Wow, I didnt notice that until now... looks like another good site went to shit :(

this could be one of the reasons why my sales dropped, as krawl was sending me the most sales from all tgps, bad news for me :(

yup and not only a tube but a tube with 250,000 videos from all the big tubes wtf?


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