Some of you need to read the whole fucking article:


"At least 132 people have been killed in 38 suspected U.S. missile strikes inside Pakistan since August as the administration of President George W. Bush stepped up pressure on Pakistan to pursue more aggressively Taliban and al-Qaeda insurgents in the country's tribal areas. "

Does not sound like Obama was involved at all, just spills over from Bush.

Thank you for throwing that down.
I voted for that white bastard as well.
I still don't get the point of this thread, but thank you.

Oh don't get me wrong - Iraq was 100% the wrong thing to do and was a manufactured war, and "terrorists" there are probably mostly fitting under your definition - militants born out of vengeance over being attacked. I also realize that the U.S. did CREATE the mess in Afghanistan to help them stave off Russia, and the situation we left there probably gave birth to a ton more terrorists. The only problem is that it doesn't change the fact that NOW those people are plotting against us.

Just like Obama can't just call an end to the Iraq stuff in an instant (gee, you don't think the people we're fighting would take advantage of the situation if we did, would they? I just don't see them instead going 'whew, the Americans are out now - let's go sit down and play video games!'), he can't call an end to any other military operations currently going on either. Phase it all out over some time, sure, but not an immediate end to all of it. He's never said he would do that, and this stuff shouldn't be unexpected to anyone. Look at the Guantanamo Bay stuff - his actions, which are probably about the most immediate he can take, are to agree to get it closed down in a year's time. Does that mean he's condoning it for a year in the meantime?

he closed down guantanamo bay, if you know what was going on there, then I'm sure you have to agree hes making change!

He's not really doing anything about Guantanamo Bay right now. Trying to appease the masses for now. It's not very hard to figure out how to load them up on planes and give them a fair trial. Besides while I would imagine the are a few bad apples in the Guantanamo Bay bunch most are likely either "protect their family" fighters or were turned in by other people so they could get paid for doing so. That's one that you don;t hear much in the MSM. Yeah they were paying people to turn people in. So if you didn;t like someone you run over to the nearest man in green with green and say "Hey that guy is a terrorist."

Gitmo isnt the real problem, the 100s of secret prisons he wont close are.

yeah let's all talk about change when he's only president for 4 days lol..

Get ready for every move Obama makes to be critized by this guy... yawn.

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You are aware that we have tried to work with them right?

They either tell us to fuck ourselves or they smile in our faces and piss down our backs. Case in point: Tora Bora. We were so close to killing bin laden there it's sad. The reason we didn't get him is because the people we were working with to catch him were working with him. He and all his terrorist shits are heros to them.

I say fuck all those fucking countrys. We've been doing this for years and if we had any real coperation from pakistan, we wouldn't need to do this type of shit. If they have a problem with it, fuck em' We're killing terrorists. Not innocent people, not innocent people in the wrong place at the wrong time.

That being said, I respect your opinion as far as how we should go about killing these people, I just dont agree with you. As well, one should not be so quick as to judge Obama on this issue. It's no surprise if you've been watching the news, and its about time we have a prez who tells other countrys to fuck off instead of telling the american people to fuck off.......

um maybe he's showing the real power!!!!!!!1

Well regarding Iraq, whole different theater.

Lets not forget Iraq and Iran were at wars for years on end.
When America went into Iraq Iran meddled, funded, trained and took as much advantage as it could for influence within Iraq by murdering and funding the murder of Sunni's.

THere were literal massacre's taking place and it was not at the hands of American bullet's. Shia were killing Sunni's like it was open season at a fish farm using dynamite.

So the protracted war was not just the Issue of Saddams forces, which rolled right over it was the aftermath that Iran wanted to take advantage of.

And to a degree Iran succeeded in insuring Shia rule within the Iraqi government.

WHich leads to the Kurds, Sunni's and Shia all in a state of near civil war.
When America pulls out it will be a blood bath which is why it must be done right to insure the typical Iraqi Civilian has a future.

When people disagreed with Bush they were called "terrorists", "anti-american" or "un-american" -

Now anytime someone disagrees with Obama, they will be called racist?

Don't you love how the leading puppets and their sheep just get ya every time....

LMFAO

PR stunt....

This has been going on for weeks, there has been news of a us missle strike in that area every couple days

I was thinking about this earlier in the day..... Someone somewhere must have mentioned this to Obama before they let loose.

But what really got me was the thought that the United States has no problem launching a missile into another country to kill other people.

Ain't that fucked up :1orglaugh

you are on obama threads like fly on shit.. too bad he won huh? :1orglaugh

He said he was gonna take care of Pakistan. What did you think he meant. That place needs to be bombed to hell. all troops should be moved from Iraq to Pakistan because they sure can't deal with the terrorist problem they have right now.

they could always fight back?

pakistan has had plenty of knowledge of the policy. it's not like we're launching missles into the sky and wondering where they will land. both ours and pakistans government know fully well what is going on.

way to play into the media spin though :Oh crap

I knew some people want the man's "change" to come sooner rather than later, but isn't this just a bit ridiculous?

4 days, chyaah.

This guy was getting judges by the conservative fucks before he was even president. They have been screaming for weeks about why Obama hasn't done anything on the economy. It cracks me up. Bush has fucked this country so much that the conservatives wanted some change:1orglaugh

Seriously, this guy has done more in his first few days in office than Bush has done in 8 years.

Usually not without reason.

I think I'll wait to see if that reason is revealed before I cast judgement.

Others in this thread need to lay off the crack pipe. Anyone knows real change takes at least a week. :D Seriously, did people actually think once the Obamer took over that all agressive military actions overseas would just magically stop? I have a bridge to sell.