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TeenCat 02-24-2009 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayDeeZee (Post 15543242)
Did you find anything else of interest while going through his personal emails?

what this guy says ... did he bought any other memberships? if yes, did he charged them back? if not, dont you feel not like an ass? i dont know the answers, but if he did chargeback cause he was not satisfied with your service you did a wrong move ... :2 cents:

Karen Kougar 02-24-2009 11:38 AM

The Federal Minimum Sentencing Guideline for an infraction of 2701 is six months.

If the breech was for any commercial gain, the typical sentence runs from one to two years.

Wolfy 02-24-2009 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by douchebag response 1 (Post 15543240)
Here's a simple answer. How would you feel and what would you do if I got into your e-mail account?

Quote:

Originally Posted by douchebag response 2 (Post 15543245)
So in your mind it's cool for me to hack your email? No problem there, you don't think that's illegal?

Are you wearing the same shirts today, too? If I wanted to discuss "feelings" I'd go talk to my girlfriend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karen Kougar (Post 15543292)
It's a federal crime. USC 2701: Unlawful access to stored communications.

(a) Offense.? Except as provided in subsection (c) of this section whoever?
(1) intentionally accesses without authorization a facility through which an electronic communication service is provided; or
(2) intentionally exceeds an authorization to access that facility;
and thereby obtains, alters, or prevents authorized access to a wire or electronic communication while it is in electronic storage in such system shall be punished as provided in subsection (b) of this section.
(b) Punishment.? The punishment for an offense under subsection (a) of this section is?
(1) if the offense is committed for purposes of commercial advantage, malicious destruction or damage, or private commercial gain, or in furtherance of any criminal or tortious act in violation of the Constitution or laws of the United States or any State?
(A) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 5 years, or both, in the case of a first offense under this subparagraph; and
(B) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 10 years, or both, for any subsequent offense under this subparagraph; and
(2) in any other case?
(A) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 1 year or both, in the case of a first offense under this paragraph; and
(B) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 5 years, or both, in the case of an offense under this subparagraph that occurs after a conviction of another offense under this section.

Thank you Karen.

Wolfy 02-24-2009 11:41 AM

For the record, I never said I thought it was ok. I simply asked for evidence that it is actually illegal.

Carry on.

BVF 02-24-2009 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 15543389)
what this guy says ... did he bought any other memberships? if yes, did he charged them back? if not, dont you feel not like an ass? i dont know the answers, but if he did chargeback cause he was not satisfied with your service you did a wrong move ... :2 cents:

Too bad you didn't read before you posted...The member has been around since November of 2008...It's late February of 2009....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karen Kougar (Post 15543400)
The Federal Minimum Sentencing Guideline for an infraction of 2701 is six months.

If the breech was for any commercial gain, the typical sentence runs from one to two years.

Guess what? I don't give a fuck and I'm not getting even one DAY in jail for it....And I'm here admitting to it and STILL not giving a fuck.

webmasterchecks 02-24-2009 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karen Kougar (Post 15543292)
It's a federal crime. USC 2701: Unlawful access to stored communications.

(a) Offense.? Except as provided in subsection (c) of this section whoever?
(1) intentionally accesses without authorization a facility through which an electronic communication service is provided; or
(2) intentionally exceeds an authorization to access that facility;
and thereby obtains, alters, or prevents authorized access to a wire or electronic communication while it is in electronic storage in such system shall be punished as provided in subsection (b) of this section.
(b) Punishment.? The punishment for an offense under subsection (a) of this section is?
(1) if the offense is committed for purposes of commercial advantage, malicious destruction or damage, or private commercial gain, or in furtherance of any criminal or tortious act in violation of the Constitution or laws of the United States or any State?
(A) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 5 years, or both, in the case of a first offense under this subparagraph; and
(B) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 10 years, or both, for any subsequent offense under this subparagraph; and
(2) in any other case?
(A) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 1 year or both, in the case of a first offense under this paragraph; and
(B) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 5 years, or both, in the case of an offense under this subparagraph that occurs after a conviction of another offense under this section.

stand corrected

BVF 02-24-2009 11:45 AM

Did I happen to mention that I DON'T REALLY GIVE A FUCK whether it's illegal or not?.......If so, carry on.

Iron Fist 02-24-2009 11:46 AM

This thread is scary. Remind me to use some fucked up password for my test signups.

woj 02-24-2009 11:47 AM

Fuck that amateur shit, next time log into his account, delete ALL his emails, and leave a note in the mailbox: "Next time you chargeback I'll break your legs" That will teach him not to fuck with adult websites...

mhende6600 02-24-2009 11:47 AM

wow this thread is funny

BVF 02-24-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 15543445)
Fuck that amateur shit, next time log into his account, delete ALL his emails, and leave a note in the mailbox: "Next time you chargeback I'll break your legs" That will teach him not to fuck with adult websites...

It's more fun to deface a myspace account, first message all his friends that he's secretly bisexual and then delete all of the friends....Then change the password.

xxweekxx 02-24-2009 11:49 AM

eh aint nobody gonna put the dude in jail for logging into someone elses email... wouldnt hold in court, besides could say u randomly just typed in the email and it logged in, so u closed it down..

If he hacked a banks email, or some shit, then yeah, but aint nobody prosecuting BVF for this shit.. heck u know how many of my friends were hacking other friends accounts back in high school and shit.. nobody cares

D Ghost 02-24-2009 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15543168)
So in checking charge backs you always go about breaking the law? Brilliant.

bahahahahaaha :1orglaugh

xxweekxx 02-24-2009 11:54 AM

ull be suprised how many times u "break the law" every day :)

Karen Kougar 02-24-2009 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 15543465)
eh aint nobody gonna put the dude in jail for logging into someone elses email... wouldnt hold in court, besides could say u randomly just typed in the email and it logged in, so u closed it down..

If he hacked a banks email, or some shit, then yeah, but aint nobody prosecuting BVF for this shit.. heck u know how many of my friends were hacking other friends accounts back in high school and shit.. nobody cares

One example from many:


unauthorized access to AOL email
Posted by Anonymous . updated on 12/30/2008
i was charged and and convicted of a felony count of unauthorized access to email (violation of USC 1030 and 2701) which carries a 5 year prison sentence. I did not read unopened email. I had no idea I was committing a felony. I am concerend for myself obviously but what about all these other people on this blog who are admitting they accessed email without authorization. The federal prisons are going to fill up fast and a goverment task force will need to be establhised to catch them. Probation officers will have to be hired to supervise them. Anyone wnat to file amicus curae for me?

from: http://www.legalforce.com/free-legal...-email_16.html

And for the record, I'm wasn't giving BVF a hard time. I just thought he should know that he just confessed to a federal felony in a public forum.

If he did perform the act that he claims, and I don't know if that's so, then the first call to a lawyer will cost more than the bill he's chasing.

Oh, and posting that you don't give a fuck about the feds always improves matters... :)

BV 02-24-2009 12:09 PM

Proving that your confirmation email hit his inbox doesn't prove anything anyways.

There are a zillion reasons why it was charged back.

From him not being happy and bitching to a stolen card/hacked or fake email issue.

What was the reason listed?

DarkJedi 02-24-2009 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15543206)
I didn't HACK his email....I already knew the password....

wow, you're dumb

:2 cents:

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-24-2009 12:18 PM

This thread delivers.

DarkJedi 02-24-2009 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15543302)

I STILL don't give a shit and I will continue to do it.

Of course, you're a n1gger.

TeenCat 02-24-2009 12:32 PM

it doesnt matter if reading someones email is against law or not, breaking others privacy is wrong, and because you as owner of paysite have access to datas like email and user:pass, that doesnt mean you can manipulate with them and use them. didnt you sign something like privacy agreement and that you cannot use any informations of your members when you created account at ccbill?

Alky 02-24-2009 12:40 PM

Damn looks like I'm going to start using my members credit card info soon.... I mean.... they left it there for me to use.

_Richard_ 02-24-2009 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 15543670)
Damn looks like I'm going to start using my members credit card info soon.... I mean.... they left it there for me to use.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Twistys Tim 02-24-2009 12:43 PM

Whenever I am in my house, I keep the door unlocked. Anyone who wishes to come round unannounced and enter my house without my permission is more than welcome. The only condition is that you have to suffer a brutal, vicious, and possibly life ending attack from my relentless 105lb German Shepard.

cgu 02-24-2009 12:45 PM

Not that anyone will ever go after you, but its criminal trespass. One of my dating affiliates got popped for it via using university students emails to send mass emails a couple years back, cost him 50k in legal fees + restitution to the university and a suspended sentence. The crime they charged him with was electronic trespass, which was a new one back then on his states books...

Hand over the info to the authorities and let them deal with it.

BVF 02-24-2009 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15543627)
Of course, you're a n1gger.

Yep...I'm one of the original members of NWA...


http://hiptics.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/nwa.jpg

As I dance and do whatever the fuck I want like this:

http://www.blackvaginafinder.com/coo..._arab_afro.gif

escorpio 02-24-2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 15543445)
Fuck that amateur shit, next time log into his account, delete ALL his emails, and leave a note in the mailbox: "Next time you chargeback I'll break your legs" That will teach him not to fuck with adult websites...

hahahaha fuck yeah! :thumbsup

fuzebox 02-24-2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15543181)
Show me what law I broke Mr. Brilliance Man The Tico himself. Or should I say "Senor Brilliante"

I don't really care about this thread, but calling Warchild a tico is pretty damn funny :1orglaugh

SBJ 02-24-2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 15543445)
Fuck that amateur shit, next time log into his account, delete ALL his emails, and leave a note in the mailbox: "Next time you chargeback I'll break your legs" That will teach him not to fuck with adult websites...

:1orglaugh that made me laugh!

Deej 02-24-2009 02:47 PM


420 02-24-2009 02:57 PM

Did you forward all his incriminating emails to his significant other?

WarChild 02-24-2009 03:08 PM

What I still don't understand is where the stereotype of the lawless ignorant black man comes from in the first place! :winkwink:

lazycash 02-24-2009 03:45 PM

Nothing may happen as far as the law goes, but ccbill pulled the processing a couple years ago from another sponsor who admitted doing something similar on a board.

Nurgle 02-24-2009 04:49 PM

wtf, we have a case where some asshole charges back , and someone is smart enough to check if he can prove it.. those fuckwits who charge back for no reason cost us money, so who gives a fuck if he found the proof in the email account.

glad to see everyone here is more interested in the rights of the asshole who charged back who was stupid enough to use the same password as his email account

topnotch, standup guy 02-24-2009 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 15543568)
Proving that your confirmation email hit his inbox doesn't prove anything anyways.

There are a zillion reasons why it was charged back.

From him not being happy and bitching to a stolen card/hacked or fake email issue.

What was the reason listed?

CCBill doesn't list cb reasons to the best of my knowledge.

More importantly, I don't know why so many people are hating on BVF. He's just fucking around with a scamming thief. No harm in that :thumbsup

evildick 02-24-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15543458)
It's more fun to deface a myspace account, first message all his friends that he's secretly bisexual and then delete all of the friends....Then change the password.

LOL You are evil.

:1orglaugh

HomerSimpson 02-24-2009 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayDeeZee (Post 15543242)
Did you find anything else of interest while going through his personal emails?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

DWB 02-24-2009 08:03 PM

Do your thing BVF.

Let the haters hate. You where here long before most of them and will be around long after they are gone.

Steve Awesome 02-24-2009 08:40 PM

Very clever strategy, but bragging about it probably not so wise.

collegeboobies 02-24-2009 08:41 PM

Umm doing a chargeback for something you purchased is not fraud. If he is not happy with the service he got he has a right to chargeback.

PSSuperstars 02-24-2009 09:03 PM

You guys really freak out over chargebacks, jesus.
It's a fact of life in porn.
Phone sex companies get 5-10 a month.. usually if it's a big number.. it's more than one call by one customer.. but still..

It's just a $99 chargeback. Your company will go on.


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