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arock10 03-03-2009 04:06 PM

Shit my car wouldn't start cause we got the most snow in 8 years here so I was stuck on gfy with some slow internet... but yea, as a webmaster who relies on seo generic domains as the easiest way to accomplish that. You protect your interests, I protect my interests, I just don't see your interest needing any of this protection.

I really think this shows just how generic sex tube is. Sex tube has been getting searches well before sextube.com was a tube site and now "Sex Tube" is searched more then "Sex Movie".... internet uses just relate to the term "Tube" more then the term "Movie"

http://www.google.com/trends?q=sex+tube%2Csex+movie

http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=s...eekly_img&sa=N

alias 03-03-2009 04:06 PM

Everyone just chill. :rasta

Juicy D. Links 03-03-2009 04:09 PM

if i posted a pic of my beautiful penis , this thread would skyrocket to 60 pages by midnight

i am getting the camera ready

Shap 03-03-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15577883)
Wow... Take a stab at the people who helped you where you are now... Good job. :321GFY

How is it a stab? The majority of people attacking me are either anonymous or gallery makers.

Shap 03-03-2009 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 15577942)
Shit my car wouldn't start cause we got the most snow in 8 years here so I was stuck on gfy with some slow internet... but yea, as a webmaster who relies on seo generic domains as the easiest way to accomplish that. You protect your interests, I protect my interests, I just don't see your interest needing any of this protection.

I really think this shows just how generic sex tube is. Sex tube has been getting searches well before sextube.com was a tube site and now "Sex Tube" is searched more then "Sex Movie".... internet uses just relate to the term "Tube" more then the term "Movie"

http://www.google.com/trends?q=sex+tube%2Csex+movie

http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=s...eekly_img&sa=N

SexTube was a tube site in 2006

Achmed 03-03-2009 04:15 PM

mr shap if you need any ammo please call me for a order or send me mail


also ak47tube.com and scudmissiletube.com will be released april 1 for visitors

arock10 03-03-2009 04:17 PM

Yea a tube site... so tube site is a generic term to describe a type of web site. Sex is one of the most searched for terms. So most searched for term = generic + most common type of web site.... but whatever beating a dead horse here. I dont even own any sextube domains

Si 03-03-2009 04:17 PM

I can't believe you are trying to flame someone running a legit tube site

Achmed 03-03-2009 04:18 PM

please mail me

[email protected]

seeandsee 03-03-2009 04:21 PM

SEE ME SIG and take all of mine domains lol

ladida 03-03-2009 04:30 PM

I remember when AFF and lars pulled their stuff. You'd see asskissers there aswell, thinking "o shit, nothing will happen, they're too big". Months later, they came apologising. Guess the hit was far too big to handle.
I have a feeling shap will have an apology thread aswell

Si 03-03-2009 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achmed (Post 15578009)
please mail me

[email protected]

Welcome Achmed!

How is the gaza strip joint treating you these days? :1orglaugh

SomeCreep 03-03-2009 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15577087)
Hey Guys. This Trademark situation has gotten way out of hand. I honestly can?t believe this topic was worthy of 11 pages within 24 hours. Seriously, companies have been caught committing fraud, shaving, lying, stealing and their threads were a few pages. We try to protect our trademark and it?s an 11 page blow out?

Anyhow, I?m not surprised some of you hate me for this Trademark situation.

Now I?m stuck in a lose lose situation. If I do what I?m being told protects my business then I?m considered a greedy asshole. If I do nothing I risk losing my trademark and possibly putting at risk my investment in SexTube. Our intention was never to get free traffic from anyone. Our intention is to protect our mark.

You are not protecting your trademark. Don't fool yourself into believing that. You are attempting to reverse hi-jack domains and that is unethical. That is what everyone has a problem with.

Snake Doctor 03-03-2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 15577955)
if i posted a pic of my beautiful penis , this thread would skyrocket to 60 pages by midnight

i am getting the camera ready

I remember those photos of you with Mary 34D.

Better make sure you have a super-power magnifying zoom lens on that camera.

EscortBiz 03-03-2009 04:45 PM

shap is now junk, asshole in my book, those kissing his ass are the same shit as him

Machete_ 03-03-2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 15578103)
You are not protecting your trademark. Don't fool yourself into believing that. You are attempting to reverse hi-jack domains and that is unethical. That is what everyone has a problem with.

His Rogue Lawyer told him to do it, and Shap lost the ability to think for himself. So he did nothing wrong

seeric 03-03-2009 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15577567)
Who will the Bros side with in Shap vs WEG?
sextube (Shap) vs blacksextube.com / analsextube.com / asiansextube.com / latinsextube.com / (WEG)

bros vs bros. this can't end well.

Shap 03-03-2009 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 15578103)
You are not protecting your trademark. Don't fool yourself into believing that. You are attempting to reverse hi-jack domains and that is unethical. That is what everyone has a problem with.

How is it a reverse hijack?

Shap 03-03-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 15578150)
bros vs bros. this can't end well.

bros vs bros take care of business quietly and everybody walks away happy. :thumbsup

CrkMStanz 03-03-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15578181)
How is it a reverse hijack?


I have nothing against you Shap - don't even know you - but you keep avoiding a direct answer to the following question....

now that you set your sights on 'hardsextube', do you now think that you own the rights to ANY domain name that has 'sextube' in it?

simple question, but you duck it - multiple examples have been given for active and non-active sites containing the word 'sextube'

people have a problem with the fact that you are moving against a high traffic site but (for now) are ignoring the others. Either you only want this site and all others get away with it (prejudicial) or you have further plans on taking them all (reverse hijacking on a massive scale)

seeric 03-03-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15578191)
bros vs bros take care of business quietly and everybody walks away happy. :thumbsup

is it bad that juicy just sent me a cockmeat sandwich on facebook?

they really should police their apps over there.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-03-2009 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15577961)
How is it a stab? The majority of people attacking me are either anonymous or gallery makers.

How are they anonymous? Because you don't know who they are personally, they are anonymous? I know of a few names here who are anonymous yet they push big numbers, and probably are some of your top earners, but because they don't flaunt their shit, they are anonymous to you, which in your words, is a nobody that you don't care about.

Shap 03-03-2009 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrkMStanz (Post 15578232)
I have nothing against you Shap - don't even know you - but you keep avoiding a direct answer to the following question....

now that you set your sights on 'hardsextube', do you now think that you own the rights to ANY domain name that has 'sextube' in it?

simple question, but you duck it - multiple examples have been given for active and non-active sites containing the word 'sextube'

people have a problem with the fact that you are moving against a high traffic site but (for now) are ignoring the others. Either you only want this site and all others get away with it (prejudicial) or you have further plans on taking them all (reverse hijacking on a massive scale)

Our lawyers have been sending letters for some time now. Hardsextube was not targeted in any way for his traffic. He happened to receive the letter and was vocal about it. Others have not taken this public.

SomeCreep 03-03-2009 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15578181)
How is it a reverse hijack?

You are attempting to steal domains to which you have no rights, regardless of what your lawyers have told you. When you register a generic domain, the trademark does not belong to you. Don't believe me? Try having your lawyers enforce your trademark for "sex tube" and see what happens.

If you had registered "sexblog.com" back in 2000 and trademarked it, guess what, you'd have no right to take away domains with "*adult keyword*sexblog.com" in them. Any attempt to do so would be called "reverse domain hi-jacking."

Shap 03-03-2009 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15578250)
How are they anonymous? Because you don't know who they are personally, they are anonymous? I know of a few names here who are anonymous yet they push big numbers, and probably are some of your top earners, but because they don't flaunt their shit, they are anonymous to you, which in your words, is a nobody that you don't care about.

Anonymous meaning they have usernames names that say nothing about who they are, they have no site listed, they have no information on their site listed. So they run wild posting on gfy saying whatever they want and feel almighty and powerful because nobody knows who they are. That's what I mean by anonymous.

BlackCrayon 03-03-2009 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 15577130)
Shap I stopped reading the thread after you said you had registered the sextube.com domain before even YouTube. Your position was clear to me then.

Perhaps though with the resolution you mention the 11 pager was a good thing. Sometimes it takes our peers (even if it gets a little brutal) to make us open to trying to really work things out. Also now we all have a good sense of where current passions lie in our community.

Cheers.

How is that possible? Personally i think any trademarks on tube names are BS, simply because the whole thing was ripped off from youtube.

Snake Doctor 03-03-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15578267)
Anonymous meaning they have usernames names that say nothing about who they are, they have no site listed, they have no information on their site listed. So they run wild posting on gfy saying whatever they want and feel almighty and powerful because nobody knows who they are. That's what I mean by anonymous.

I agree there 100%. Anonymous attacks are given way too much credit around here and it's always been that way.

When Shap has something to say, he stands behind it. Everyone knows who he is and what sites he owns....and that was true even before he started Twistys. That's one of the things I've always liked about him.

Too many people create fake nicks just to start flame wars and/or spread false rumors about their competition. They can't do this with their real name or by letting people know what sites they own and who they work for...or else the reason for their attacks would become obvious. (Think of all the fake nicks in the hosting threads for instance. Someone who works for host A can't say host B sucks using their real name because they wouldn't have any credibility)

That's one of the reasons why "I'm Lenny2 bitch" has been my custom title the entire time I've had this "Snake Doctor" name....because I don't want people to think I'm hiding behind a fake nick. :2 cents:

halfpint 03-03-2009 05:17 PM

Free Marketing at its best :2 cents:

Ethersync 03-03-2009 05:34 PM

Here is SexTube.com in November of 2006

http://i43.tinypic.com/35lf5p0.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15577087)
In November 2006 we started actively using SexTube.com


Shap 03-03-2009 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 15578499)
Here is SexTube.com in November of 2006

LOL what is that supposed to prove?

Ethersync 03-03-2009 05:42 PM

Here is what SexTube.com looked like until mid-December of 2006.
"The Largest Adult DVD Download Site"

http://i42.tinypic.com/14wf51y.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15577087)
In December 2006 we launched SexTube.com tube site.


arock10 03-03-2009 05:44 PM

That people were searching for "sex tube" well before it was a tube, therefore its a generic term. Which everyone knows anyway

And yea I own a gallery builder, so is it anonymous posters and me the "gallery maker"? I just make galleries for my own sites, none of the typical submitting is involved. Why? For SEO. Take a nice generic domain, build galleries on it to boost page views and its pretty easy to rank for anything.

Shap 03-03-2009 05:46 PM

LOL keep going a little more and you'll see the tube site in mid december ;)

Shap 03-03-2009 05:46 PM

You are really burying me Ethersync. These screenshots are costing me affiliates. Please stop.

PAR 03-03-2009 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15577430)
Damn it. You've convinced my employees that you are right. Here is what they've been working on.
http://twistyspreviews.com/shapfinal.jpg

I was wondering when I would see that.. was told about it some time ago.. lol

I'm just going to wait for the Obama Domain name bailout...

fris 03-03-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15577961)
How is it a stab? The majority of people attacking me are either anonymous or gallery makers.

probably cause the ratios of gallery traffic is shit, I know several people who have top google listings for babe keywords, and push twistys, and the ratios really blow

Shap 03-03-2009 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 15578884)
probably cause the ratios of gallery traffic is shit, I know several people who have top google listings for babe keywords, and push twistys, and the ratios really blow

We are working on that. We don't convert like gold for everyone. For those we do well with we do very well. For others it's hit and miss. We are deeply in need of an update to our tour which we are working on. My goal is always to make sure our affiliates are earning more every month :thumbsup

arock10 03-03-2009 06:50 PM

Twistys converts better then some stuff, but I'd make way more off traffic searching for "sex tube" anyday.... Ohhhhhhhhhhhh now it all makes sense

raven1083 03-03-2009 06:51 PM

lets all mind our own business!

V_RocKs 03-03-2009 07:21 PM

I would not mind if Shap had the only tube site in the world. At least it would leave us with only one person to hate.


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