yeah what would i know about what sells, i only send sales to the 121 different programs i have on my stats remote. i even sent over 10k in sales to maxcash. that was about 10 or 11 years ago, back when they sold good.

Thank you...I have been around on the boards along time..my skin is pretty thick (in more ways than one). Every now and then somebody just decides to be a prick and assume that because I have a company name in my nick that I am a post whore. There are more than a few folks around here that know that I have posted in pretty much the exact same way for years now - even back when I was just Sjayne with no company and no real sig.

Maybe I should start going down the 'see sig' route and make them happy ;)

why is this board a magnet for the insane?

WTF!

:1orglaugh

a funny thing about this biz is that stupidity and thievery is worshiped. Imagine you just walked into a crowded convention center full of your peers and your CPA is making a similarly retarded rant. you would fire him... or any other professional for that matter. You would be thinking "wow man... you've totally derailed and lost your fucking mind"

Why is it sooooo totally fine in this biz to go full retard and then have people defend you like it makes total sense?

Why is it that the only ones calling people out on that sort of retarded behavior, usually just trolls and habitual shit disturbers?

I've never seen such a massive collection of irretrievably spineless, ass kissing pussies.

Can I be here?

It started with talent. They are all drugged up fucks. That filtered down into the programs.

I have met more insane fucks in the last year on this board than normal ones. It's so damn weird how this guy is the "norm" these days.

meltdown somewhere else plz, thx. ps gfy.

Great post! :thumbsup

Funny thing about you is that you never make it into tutorial threads I start or business threads. Yet, these threads you hate so much you find...hmmm.

Mr. Right has no traffic, and won't promote you anyway. Defending yourself against these trolls is a waste of time. The fact that you are replying to them just shows you're a bit naive.

Brad..you of all people know I am not.

[QUOTE=TheDoc;15726440]Was that a joke about people thinking the affiliate business is dieing or is dead?


Not a joke.

In Phoenix, I sat on a traffic panel with the title "Direct Marketing or Affiliate Marketing ....Do you choose". Basicly the tenor of the panel was whether or not you need affiliates to market for you any more and if the model was over. I happen to think it is not, but some people do, and for sure it it is changing. Many programs are lowering payouts, doing it them selves, hiring people in-house etc.

It is my belief that programs and affiliates should work together especially now. This whole post was a response to sending out an open invitation to pay folks who work hard what they deserve; and not receiving one reply to a truly honest request. I don't spend a lot of time on the boards, but it couldn't be so far removed from real business discussions.

WOW! GREAT POST JOHNNY_V! THAT SURE SHOWED THEM!

I BET AFFILIATES ARE LINING UP AS WE SPEAK TO SEND YOU THE TRAFFIC! :1orglaugh



P.S.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...7926568946.jpg

You do Realise thats Batts your talking to right?

I wouldn't bother listening to or even quoting anything that troll says.

:2 cents:

sorry max cash sites look cookie-cutter. come up with something unique and people will be all over it.

there is a lack or originallty in the pay site market lately.

Then why quote trolls and respond to them and defend yourself in any way shape or form? I don't get it.

and as far as original, i don't mean throwing up a clone of the one original paysite idea that came out in the last year.

brazzers is one of the few that has significant in house traffic and still are agressively soliciting affiliates as far as i can see.

the death of the affiliate shit is bs. anyone who knows seo and traffic generation isn't going to wotk for someone else.

Its not like Mr Right/Batts has any traffic anyway

Sarah, I have been around since 1998 and you are one of the women I admire most. Always have been and will most likely always be. Don't waste your time on haters. :liebe028:

He might have!

Cars going past his house is probably about it though :upsidedow

:1orglaugh

That's some funny stuff.... It sounds like a big group of people just clued in that in-house traffic is far more valuable than Webmaster traffic. But without question, plenty of others have known that :)

The affiliate end isn't dieing, affiliates still produce more sales globally than any other medium online. But our core base of Webmasters has gotten much smaller, which is producing far less global traffic for our Industry.

So to me if they want to put a final nail into the industry coffin, they only need to exclude affiliates even more.

This is the mentality of, build it and they will come... without exchanges, without other sites linking to them, pushing someone or them, ie: Other Webmasters by the 1000's all being part of the global traffic exchange - they wouldn't have any traffic to make sales.

LMAO HALF A BILLION MY ASS!!

I find that very hard to believe

I want stats.

[QUOTE=JohnnyV_MaxCash;15726533]
I believe there was an Xbiz article just recently on the same topic.

Unlike you, I do spend a lot of time on the boards and I actually like GFY for all its pains. As you know, I do a lot of biz here too. The fun posts are just that..a bit of fun and a chance to network. I know a lot about some of my affiliates through those posts..sort of like taking them to the bar at shows.

What I do think is that a lot of people with traffic don't know that they can come and talk to an company rep and 'do biz'. They think that it is something only massive whales can do. They watch threads with people measuring their dick sizes in dollar bills and think that they must be so far out of those guy's league that they don't feel they have anything to put on the table but many of those that don't moan the loudest do and I want those guys to know they can come to me and deal.

I want them to know that if they can send sales then I will bend over backwards to help them get whatever they need, etc.

So my message is a bit simpler than yours....I want the guys that are lurking in the shadows that have solid sales in them to hit us up and talk to us about what they want and need.

I can't say I have seen the stats.. But I remember the big promos when they were breaking the marks.. And I remember karasxxx had like 350,000+ uniques a day (just the one site) at one time, via a external counter.

I think it's true.. anyone that has been around long enough has no reason to not think it's true.

Maxcash should of came out with a new affiliate program, new sites, new backend, new everything. This was a big blunder IMO.

That's about $40 million a year, roughly $3.5 million a month. I certainly see that as possible, especially back in the "hay day."

Figures that someone in the space since February 2009 would post this. Ask anyone who has been inthe business longer than 3 months who Max Cash is and how much they have paid.

I don't need to put up the stats it's more common than (obviously) you know.

when BradM tells Sarah that she's naive when replying to Mr Right because he has no traffic - that's the funniest part of the thread so far

Uh...actually we passed 550 million about a month ago

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-7l250E5uM4

congrats to the winners


MaxCash :thumbsup

as for the original rant, there might be some merit to it, but let's be fair, virtually every big (or.. small) program is willing to work out "deals" with affiliates nowadays... I would be surpised to find one that wouldn't....

so it's not that a thread "let's make some deals" is something exceptional.... also, probably most people are already comfortable with their current sponsors and see no reason to move..

This whole idea that people are just haters or trolls to protect yourself is lame.

Just deal with the fact that some people post here in an honest and blunt manner.

Calm down bro! :thumbsup

Instead of playing with trolls... Maybe JohnnyV can comment on what was quoted in post #58 you seemed to skip right over that gem Doc wrote...

not the best sig spot space but still

I don't think too many people subscribe to your DJ = Mr. Right theory. Could it be possible, yeah. Who really knows for sure.

I love Sarah's posts.

That's the wrong directly in marketing I'm talking about. You already chat and are friendly, you help people, etc - thus you will get the newbies. Just sucks we need so many to make a difference.

Ok.. fair enough.

You want my traffic.. I'm like most Webmasters. I have my bulk traffic source that does crap across 40 sponsors. And then I have my two sponsors that I actually make money with, that I put some focus into.

So you... Post on GFY and forums, your cool, nice.. I'm sure the newbies eat it up. And maybe I think you 'could' make me some money... But, why would I move?

I have Sponsor A: They saw me post a domain, they contacted me, dev'ed the domain for me, I paid for nothing - they even bought a link for it. Sponsor B: Hits ME up, I tell them "I want you to build these 3 domains for me"... When they are done, I'm pushing them - my job is to promote it - not build it. Sponsor C: Sends me a gift, a free dell mini - and I haven't sent them a sale.


It has nothing to do with what they are doing for me, it could be anything. It's the fact that they are working for me, I'm not working for them...

You want Webmasters to hit YOU up... you have it backwards.



I guess the idea that you have 30k posts vs. my 6k posts - is my point. How could you have time to post 30k times and work one-on-one with the every possible Webmaster you can?

I think the funniest part of the thread is that everyone knows you are a joke. :)

Bullshit!

Established reputation means a ton ... tours ARE new ... our backend does the job $.02

The new business from past affiliate partners we have wrangled in the past year proves it.

:2 cents:

That doesn't change the reasoning behind Johhny's post though!

BTW - "they" say beauty is in the eyes of the beholder ... Johhny going full retard is a thing of beauty to me! :winkwink:

Ive been in business since 99 but kept a low profile.

If thats true, good for you, hope you spend it wisely and not on crack prostitutes

No but I've seen them! And they are nice! LMAO :thumbsup

Stop making so much damn sense in one thread! GFY will explode... Seriously though you are on a roll today I would have to agree 100%. :2 cents: :thumbsup

It wasn't me who said it's Jedi, I'm past all this drama, didn't mean to 'out' him, was just sick seeing people saying Mr Right is Batts.

In fact i said i can put money on it that it's not Batts, but still only Lazycash got convinced perhaps.

Believe me, I could write much more to prove my point, but well, who really cares?

No offence, but calling your affiliates too stupid to realize what you're offering isn't winning you any support. We stupid affiliates have lots of options these days that maybe we don't need your attitude towards why we should work with you/your company.
WG

Im glad we pulled our traffic before this idiotic post

at least im ahead of the curve for once


:thumbsup

Ya know what. You're right. It was said out of frustration, and it was the wrong thing to say. To any webmaster I offended, I'm sorry. It is a strange market place where sincere open request to make deals is un opened and not responded to, but calling everyone mono-syllabic-foot-shuffling mouth breathers brings hundreds of responses.

Truly my bad.

Johnny V

loooooooolll

Is JohnnyV = Damien?

wow this thread's got legs :thumbsup