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Instead of landing in Idaho and abducting a potato farmer? :1orglaugh

We are not alone, there has to be life out there somewhere. Not Star Wars or Star Trek type stuff, just some life somewhere.

So let's assume there is and look at how advanced we are, we struggle to get man on Mars, to get life onto another inhabited planet think of the civilization it would need to achieve it. And think of the massive investment.

We spent a fortune going to the Moon and what did it bring us? Maybe Mars will have something that's worth stretching technology to it's limits to bring it back. What could it be and how much would we need?

I think he's so wrong in that point of view..
When intelligence reached a lever, the beings, in this case humans, becomes conscious .. self aware.. that's the whole difference between us and animals.. we know we exist, we know we're humans... we can communicate.. also with beings alot smarter than us..

I do hope any visitors do nuke the whole middle east though

Maybe ants and other insects feel the same way, yet we squash them every time we walk. Here's an idea: imagine the aliens that come over here are the sweetest, gentlest creatures, just like us human beings, they're just so fucking BIG that we seem like germs to them?

I have no clue where you got your info but you are totally wrong.

It always amazes me when people come up with weird ass theories about aliens and stuff because they simply are uninformed. They rather think aliens did it than firing up Google and do some reading.

My roids hurt

And you're an expert, classically trained in the laws of physics? Fly's in the face of expansion? You need a little more base than some internet searches and some TV programs to get a clue of what you are talking about. No offense.

It has been MANY years since we have known that light can be bent, especially under the force of massive and even not so massive gravitational forces. As a matter of fact it was the very discovery of light bending under these circumstances that helped prove and solidify Einstein's theory of relativity which to that date was widely disregarded by mainstream science.

I imagine I could produce many theories you have never even heard of.

That being said, he too, is wrong. Our universe, through the discovery of CMBR (cosmic microwave background radiation), is basically a flattened oval. And yes it is expanding, as other galaxies seem to be racing away from us at ever increasing speeds. If you were able to follow a beam of light to the edge of the universe it would not just disappear and reappear somewhere else. It would begin to bend long before it reached the edge and in affect begin to loop back around the curve.

Hope that helps.

You Been watching War of the Worlds recently?

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/P...indy-tv-03.jpgnanu nanu

:1orglaugh No more wall talk:winkwink:

Maybe they already visited and decided we are not worthy of saving?

nobody knows whats if anything out there

all this is fine and dandy but if I can get one of these alien girls to pose nude for my site, would you join our cash program?

DG

cool idea!
Who would you use to be the inter-gallactic billing company :winkwink:

gfy = the internet's foremost gathering of earth's top physicists, scientists, doctors, psychologists, and experts on just about everything. good work boys, you've all seemed to cracked the code. someone call nasa. it's obvious that there are no aliens, if there was gfy would have been the first group they contacted in an effort to understand mankind's deepest secrets...

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh It's an interesting convo nonetheless.

If there is life out there, Bill Bryson said it best in "A Short History of Nearly Everything"

"Of course, it is possible that alien beings travel billions of miles to amuse themselves by planting crop circles in Wiltshire of frighting the daylights out of some poor guy in a pickup truck on a lonely road in Arizona (they must have teenagers, after all), but it does seem unlikely.

Still, statistically the probability that there are other thinking beings out there is good. Nobody knows how many stars there are in the Milky Way- estimates range from 100 billion or some to perhaps 400 billion -and the Milky Way is just one of 140 billion or so other galaxies, many of them even larger than ours. In the 1960's, a professor at Cornell named Frank Drake, excited by such whopping numbers, worked out a famous equation designed to calculate the chances of advanced life in the cosmos based on a series ob diminishing probabilities.

Under Drakes equation you divide the number of stars in a selected portion of the universe by the number of stars that are likely to have planetary systems; divide that by the number of planetary systems that could theoretically support life; divide that by the number on which life, having arisen, advances to a state of intelligence; and so on. At each such division, the number shrinks colossally- yet even with the most conservative inputs the number of advanced civilizations just in the Milky Way always works out to be somewhere in the millions.

What an interesting and exciting thought. We may be only one of millions of advanced civilizations. Unfortunately, space being spacious, the average distance between any two of these civilizations is reckoned to be at lease two hundred light-years, which is a great deal more than merely saying it makes it sound. It means for a start that even if these being know we are here and are somehow able to see us in their telescopes, they're watching light that left Earth two hundred years ago. So they're not seeing you and me. They're watching the French Revolution and Thomas Jefferson and people in silk stockings and powdered wigs- people who don't know what an atom is, or a gene, and who make their electricity by rubbing a rod of amber with a piece of fur and think that's quite a trick. Any message we receive from them is likely to begin "dear sire," and congratulate us on the handsomeness of our horses and our master of whale oil. Two hundred light-years is a distance so far beyond us as to be, well, just beyond us..."

They might find fossils of single cell life on Mars. The red planet, after all, once had oceans and an oxygen rich atmosphere but not for all that long (cosmically speaking, anyway).

Beyond our solar system I'd bet the house that there's life and plenty of it. Thing is, unless faster-than-light travel is possible (by no means a certainty), no one from this planet will ever see it and visa versa :2 cents:

Even humans have showed they are very cruel to other humans they find inferior.

Not sure what your issues really are. No I am not classically trained in the laws of physics - whatever classically trained happens to mean anyways as you would be schooled in it or not. Have I taken physics classes, yes. Is one of my primary fascinations physics and quantum physics with primary interest in following the creation of the universe from its start to its eventual death - then extra interest in the potential of space travel. Yet your making assumptions about me without knowing nothing. I am not the type to just post random shit from god knows whoever made it on youtube etc.
Now yes the internet has several great areas if one is interested in these matters. Most are just long as papers posted at assorted .edu sites.

I have no problems with light bending, it does and will. Just like space bends or shall I say sinks around items of tremendous mass. Light will also bend when around black holes. I just had curiosity about what I first quoted as to what theory that was - obviously so that I could look it up and read it. (again thanks for not posting it and going on attack instead).

Here is the line I had issue with "if you take this theory it could basically mean that light or any other matter travelling out far enough in the universe, re-enters universe in a different corner." No issue with light bending. Just issue and interest in what theory has light or any other matter leaving the universe (guessing our known edge) - would re-enter the universe in another location (guessing he meant that since I am fairly certain he did not mean a literal "corner").

I said no offense and it was not meant to be derogatory. Classically trained means physical studies, in the lab, etc.

As for your issue about his statement I explained how he is wrong and what would happen to light when it begins reaching the edges of the universe. That is why I said I hope that helps. I don't have any links to give you just the information that I have. That stuff is pretty 101 stuff and I figured you could take what I gave you and find more if you wanted.

Not sure what your level of study is at but if you are interested I could recommend some good books to read.

In regards to your interest in the creation of the universe, check out a book called "Big Bang: The Origin of the Universe" by Simon Singh. It is a pretty comprehensive book on the history of astronomy and physics.