you are the one defining "natural" and "unnatural" to suit an argument.

two headed sheep were around before marriage as well. that doesn't mean that society should be doing everything possible to assist two headed sheep in increasing their survival rates when ultimately, two headed sheep pass along negative genetic traits which have a long term negative effect on the survival rates of sheep.

of course there are always exceptions to any rule. that doesn't mean that its a healthy thing for society as a whole to start making the exceptions the rule.

i personally have no stake in the argument and could care less if gay people get married or if gay marriage is outlawed. i am simply voicing my opinion and suggest that from an anthropological standpoint, there is a greater benefit to a society in strengthening and reinforcing the concept of a strong nuclear family than not.

life is not fair. the constitution or laws of man cannot make life fair. sometimes you get selected by nature to be the one who has to take one for the team (and sometimes from the top or bottom).

So as long as they have a penis and a vagina for parents, which they can call "mom and dad", what they do for a living does not have anything to do with their Values?

are you serious? :error

i didn't anything like that.

seriously, tighten your helmet strap and up your medication.

i oppose gay marriage with the same ferocity that i oppose straight marriage.

I wonder how many of the no votes came from gay people.

I do...why not?

I don't mind fags and if they want to marry, I think they should have the freedom to do so.

Married people used to pay a tax penalty in the united states until it was changed. Kinda like how the pledge of allegience never had "under god" in the original.
Just tidbits, cuz I got nothin.

http://www.tshirthell.com/images/con...s/a286_008.jpg
Hotlink: http://www.tshirthell.com/images/con...s/a286_008.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/223/5...76a5ad67b3.jpg

seems to give a lot of pleasure

to have that, you must pay

:1orglaugh

I did mine and my boyfriend's taxes individually this year. Then, out of curiosity, I calculated what our returns would be if we were married. Surprise! We would have gotten far less money back as a married couple than we did as single.

Marriage blows.

You get money BACK? Omg.

I find no reasons to interfere in the decision of two people that want to get married, no matter what they are. If they want to spend the rest of their lives together, who I am to say "no, that´s no good". ?

i support gay marriage..

i really don't care - if they want to marry they have my blessing

i would even grant them the same rights regarding taxes, adoption etc. as heterosexual couples.

but: i would also grant the same rigths to couples who do not want to get legally married but live together for 10 or 20 years

why not equality

Between 2 kids and a mortgage, yup. But I don't own a business anymore so they're taking money out of my paycheck all year long.

only if the "bride" is a virgin :1orglaugh

I can't believe that anyone on this thread is treating gay marriage as a polar opposite to "supporting traditional family values". Do you know what would support traditional family values, forcing teenagers onto birth control so they don't get knocked up before they're old enough to drink and end up as a single parent or in a dysfunctional marriage. What the hell do gay people have to do with whether or not straight people form good marriages. How do you erode the traditional nuclear family by letting gay people emulate it? That would appear to reinforce the traditional nuclear family. You definitely don't want to encourage gay people to marry the opposite gender, that's like creating families that are doomed to fail.
I am an American. "Pursuit of happiness" is in the rules somewhere. Gay marriage is just consistent with American values.

why not?

it's not your business, so why would you meddle into it?

and this thread does not sound like one from an adult board. very disappointed hearing a bunch of nerds commenting like 12 year old kids.

What you mean by "support"? :)

plenty of pro gay on here woo hoo oh snap you go girl! switch it hahahaha

Gay marriage is ok i guess (freedom of choice) .. gay couple to have a kid is big NO. I think that they go to far with their right about convincing us gay couple to adopt a kid

Why is it a big no?

who gives a shit what they do, it's their life

We had this same debate decades ago with the same type of issue, it was called interracial marriage.

do you realize how many shitty heterosexual people with kids are out there?

Ghey :love-boob

No. No. No. :)

Live and let live

Fuck no I dont support faggots.

Its unnatural. A man should mate with a woman to create offspring.

Do you see two male dogs fucking eachother?

It goes against nature.

Disgusting faggots.

classic response from those who support them.. are you educated to use this phrase when defending homos? :1orglaugh

I thought I would vote undecided and be different..

really, the truth is this is against the nature and we should have had medicine for this to cure it.. not giving them rights to support it.. we dont give rights to pedophiles as well

Uhm, actually yes. You do see that.

http://www.laughparty.com/funny-pict...ee-way-965.jpg

And a man should have sex to produce offspring?? Well, so much for porn. Close up shop folks. Sex is only for reproduction!

I dont see how it makes a difference to the average person. It wont effect you unless it is your son..
So yes i support gay marriage

We were put on this earth to reproduce.

Now tell me. How the fuck are we supposed to reproduce with two cock suckers?

Fag.

Yes, I support gay marriage.


I don't see how the "nuclear" or natural family being departed from will hurt anything in America's values. So many people who are 45+ can tell you stories of seeing their fathers/mothers abuse one another... and then stay together, stay married. If only divorce or departure would've been a norm for families a long time ago.. I don't think you'd see the popping up psychological disorders in the baby boomer age group like you do.


In other cultures where marriage is sacred... you almost always have the female being ultimately submissive to the male... The birth of women's lib... and the evolution of women no longer wanting to be stuck in roles where they're not happy.. I believe has turned the world into a more evolved, happier place.

I think that any time you're allowing a culture to seek out happiness in the heart.. that the culture becomes more evolved and advanced. More happy peopple = happier culture.

I see absolutely ZERO reason as to why gay couples can't marry or adopt. I see zero issues with it..

What about men and women who are sterile?
They shouldn't marry?
They're defects?

classic response from someone who is too stupid for an own opinion

they haven't really thought this through..

the point about interracial marriage is a very good one, thanks.

Thats right and if they wanna be as miserable as the rest of us let them be :1orglaugh

so you're saying i'll live forever if i don't reproduce?

I have my own opinion skinhead, just read above

ahh, indeed, i had to translate it from engrish first

but actually it just confirms my opinion i already had from the other post about you.

cheers :glugglug

Freedom of choice.

ah alright, homo asslicker :1orglaugh

I'm not telling about being a good parent, their sexual way of thinking can affect also the kid.

did you grow up with gay parents and find yourself gay or something? maybe straight?

if not.. maybe you should leave the 'facts' for people with them