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SpicyM 04-24-2009 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 15785375)
In my experience those who bash gays and the supporters of gay rights, are usually insecure about their sexuality(secretly love the cock) and feel they have to resort to bashing


its not your experience.. its an opinion spread by faggots to fight normal people, they themselves dont believe that, they just need a stupid argument for their ass fucking sessions :321GFY

I dont like faggots, I dont like trannies and I wont support them because I dont like them , logical.. ..period.. there is nothing to discuss.. if you dont like politics you wont support politicians.. Is it clear? And I am not really sure what other way to express it would be safe if not clearly state it? In your logic all gay haters are actually gays? Well then all of us have to love them to be straigh right? Hahah fuck you

JamesXR 04-24-2009 02:52 PM

It seems like some of those who oppose same sex marriage aren't against gay marriage so much as they're against gayness in general. They appear to be afraid that they can encourage people to be gay. That is the stupidest thing. You can't encourage people to become gay and people who were married and had kids didn't become gay, they always were gay. I 100% support encouraging people who are gay to come out and be gay because I strongly oppose gay people marrying straight people, unless they're both fully aware of the situation.
Here's how sexual orientation works. You're attracted to the characteristics of a particular gender, or maybe both. Sexual orientation goes even deeper than that, as anyone who's worked with any niche content will tell you. You can run advertisements for chicks stepping in dog food all day, but I'm still not going to be into it. Male characteristics, also not something I'm into. So there is no choice for me. I can't choose gay. I could go have sex with men all day long, but I'd just be a closet straight guy. If you seriously believe that it is a choice, and that you can choose to be gay, then you're at least a little bi if not gay. Otherwise it wouldn't be a choice for you.

Some people don't care about this subject, as it doesn't apply to them. I can't be so detached. Even if I didn't have gay friends, I'd still care about this issue. If some oversensitive bitches get weirded out by whatever relationship that I'm consensually involved I'm fine. If they wanted to set up laws to discriminate against me and my significant other, I would be pissed off, and in a breaking bones kind of way. If you got to outlaw things because some oversensitive people were weirded out our entire industry would be illegal. If porn weirds people out, they can not watch it. If gay marriage weirds you out, you can not get gay married. However, having whiners try to force me out of the relationship of my choice isn't something that I find tolerable.

Apparently Dena loves me, so I am invincible.

michael.kickass 04-24-2009 02:56 PM

I support it but I dont approve that they could adopt a child :2 cents:

mozadek 04-24-2009 03:00 PM

I will support gay marriage once homosexuals support marriage for those who practice incest, bestiality and polygamy

miss_jody 04-24-2009 03:04 PM

Of course I do, who the hell woudln't in today's day in age??

SpicyM 04-24-2009 03:09 PM

Send them all to Iran.. :1orglaugh

miss_jody 04-24-2009 03:11 PM

so much ignorance and hate in here its unbeleivable
I am shocked and feeling pretty damn embarassed to even belong to a web community with so many patheitc haters!

Holly Lez! 04-24-2009 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mozadek (Post 15785602)
I will support gay marriage once homosexuals support marriage for those who practice incest, bestiality and polygamy

You are a fucking moron

SpicyM 04-24-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by miss_jody (Post 15785650)
so much ignorance and hate in here its unbeleivable
I am shocked and feeling pretty damn embarassed to even belong to a web community with so many patheitc haters!


so you also accept pedos? Isnt it hatred bashing them for something they cant controll? Bring some logic to that

Holly Lez! 04-24-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15785664)
so you also accept pedos? Isnt it hatred bashing them for something they cant controll? Bring some logic to that

What does gay have to do with pedo asshole jesus I cant believe people think this way!

miss_jody 04-24-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15785664)
so you also accept pedos? Isnt it hatred bashing them for something they cant controll? Bring some logic to that

OMG, you are seriously the dumbest person i have ever encountered!!
like there is even a comparison, seriously you shoudl juse shut up if you want anyones respect in here, although i'm sure its too late for that

if you represent as company in here, i feel sorry for them for hiring such a dumb ass ingnorant loser like urself!!

miss_jody 04-24-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15785664)
so you also accept pedos? Isnt it hatred bashing them for something they cant controll? Bring some logic to that

ahhh no sig
no wonder!!

SpicyM 04-24-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly Lez! (Post 15785680)
What does gay have to do with pedo asshole jesus I cant believe people think this way!

nothing, just the unusual sexual behaviour :1orglaugh

Holly Lez! 04-24-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15785699)
nothing, just the unusual sexual behaviour :1orglaugh

It is you straight fucks who abuse children do your research asshole! You are pathetic

SpicyM 04-24-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by miss_jody (Post 15785690)
OMG, you are seriously the dumbest person i have ever encountered!!
like there is even a comparison, seriously you shoudl juse shut up if you want anyones respect in here, although i'm sure its too late for that

if you represent as company in here, i feel sorry for them for hiring such a dumb ass ingnorant loser like urself!!


you have nothing logical to say, blonde and lesbo LoL

Holly Lez! 04-24-2009 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15785706)
you have nothing logical to say, blonde and lesbo LoL

You do??? you are fucking idiot... why do all you straights think about gay shit so much... we never talk you and your pathetic lives ... I hope you get a gay kid

miss_jody 04-24-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15785706)
you have nothing logical to say, blonde and lesbo LoL

ahhh ignorance

miss_jody 04-24-2009 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly Lez! (Post 15785716)
You do??? you are fucking idiot... why do all you straights think about gay shit so much... we never talk you and your pathetic lives ... I hope you get a gay kid

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
if anyone would b stupid enough to reproduce with that

JamesXR 04-24-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15785664)
so you also accept pedos? Isnt it hatred bashing them for something they cant controll? Bring some logic to that

Wow, way to jump to an entirely unrelated conclusion. By the way, no, pedophilia has nothing to do with this argument. We're talking gay marriage, not legitimizing pedophilia. These are unrelated things. There is no slippery slope. That's like discussing lowering the legal driving age and having someone going on about how pretty soon you'll be giving driver's licenses to hamsters. It's a stupid argument.

SpicyM 04-24-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly Lez! (Post 15785716)
You do??? you are fucking idiot... why do all you straights think about gay shit so much... we never talk you and your pathetic lives ... I hope you get a gay kid


I dont care about them.. let them fuck their arse holes freely.. who gives a fuck.. unless they want their fuckin rights and similiar bullshit.. we dont let retards drive a car cause they are people too, do we?

Holly Lez! 04-24-2009 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15785739)
I dont care about them.. let them fuck their arse holes freely.. who gives a fuck.. unless they want their fuckin rights and similiar bullshit.. we dont let retards drive a car cause they are people too, do we?

LMAO I give up ... You are fucking tool anyone who does business with you should think twice... But then no sig so you may be a 12 yr old boy for all we know! Your arguments are nonsense and you are a fucking loser a fucking piece of homophobic shit not orginal

SpicyM 04-24-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly Lez! (Post 15785748)
LMAO I give up ... You are fucking tool anyone who does business with you should think twice... But then no sig so you may be a 12 yr old boy for all we know! Your agruments are nonsense and you are a fucking loser a fucking piece of homophobic shit not orginal


Like I do care who you are :321GFY Oh yes and business is completely related to a gay mariage opinons :1orglaugh

pocketkangaroo 04-24-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15785532)
its not your experience.. its an opinion spread by faggots to fight normal people, they themselves dont believe that, they just need a stupid argument for their ass fucking sessions :321GFY

I dont like faggots, I dont like trannies and I wont support them because I dont like them , logical.. ..period.. there is nothing to discuss.. if you dont like politics you wont support politicians.. Is it clear? And I am not really sure what other way to express it would be safe if not clearly state it? In your logic all gay haters are actually gays? Well then all of us have to love them to be straigh right? Hahah fuck you

It's spread by actual scientific evidence.

http://web.archive.org/web/200402020.../homophob.html

No fear though as the poll shows that you are in the company of people who are gay-friendly.

Holly Lez! 04-24-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15785760)
Like I do care who you are :321GFY Oh yes and business is completely related to a gay mariage opinons :1orglaugh

FUCK OFF JACK ASS being a homophobic ass is related who wants to work with a fucking caveman welcome to 2009 you moron have a nice sheltered life in your moms basement

SpicyM 04-24-2009 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by miss_jody (Post 15785728)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
if anyone would b stupid enough to reproduce with that


as funny as lesbian and reproduction :1orglaugh

aniloscash 04-24-2009 03:48 PM

I wish we could stop calling it gay marriage. and just call it something else like civil unions. Marriage is usually religious based is my point.

pocketkangaroo 04-24-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by aniloscash (Post 15785823)
I wish we could stop calling it gay marriage. and just call it something else like civil unions. Marriage is usually religious based is my point.

Shouldn't we have the government stop calling it marriage too then? Since there is a separation of Church and state in our country.

mozadek 04-24-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly Lez! (Post 15785660)
You are a fucking moron

Just because you disagree with me?

Holly Lez! 04-24-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mozadek (Post 15785847)
Just because you disagree with me?

Nah cause of statements like this Originally Posted by mozadek View Post
I will support gay marriage once homosexuals support marriage for those who practice incest, bestiality and polygamy

mozadek 04-24-2009 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aniloscash (Post 15785823)
I wish we could stop calling it gay marriage. and just call it something else like civil unions. Marriage is usually religious based is my point.

Maybe the next time a gay marriage initiative makes its way to the ballot it could be called "The Abomination of Marriage Bill"

mozadek 04-24-2009 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly Lez! (Post 15785858)
Nah cause of statements like this Originally Posted by mozadek View Post
I will support gay marriage once homosexuals support marriage for those who practice incest, bestiality and polygamy

What's wrong with what I said? Those people are discriminated against too, just like the gays.

pocketkangaroo 04-24-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mozadek (Post 15785872)
What's wrong with what I said? Those people are discriminated against too, just like the gays.

Polygamy yes, the others are done for protection. Animals can't consent to sex and incest is a major health risk. Comparing beastiality to homosexuality is pretty laughable, although a defense used over history when discriminating (racists said we'd have to give monkeys the right to vote if we allowed blacks to vote).

starpimps 04-24-2009 07:18 PM

I support gay marriage wholeheartedly

directfiesta 04-24-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15785643)
Send them all to Iran.. :1orglaugh

If you hate them so much, you might want to send them to the new free democracy of the Middle East : IRAQ ..... worse then IRAN fyi :2 cents:

As for the topic, gays are not "abnormal " or " sick " ,,, they are just different ... and entitled to the same priviliges then non-gays.

LoveSandra 04-25-2009 03:59 AM

FUCKING HELL NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I FUCKING HATE THE FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!!



i FUCKING DONT UNDERSTAND THIS SHIT WHEN THE WORLD IS FULL OF BEAUTIFULL WOMEN.
Hope to die these lowlife scumbags.

StuartD 04-25-2009 04:06 AM

So we have some people who think love is love and people should get married if they wish, it's called freedom.

Then we have others who are filled with hate and screaming at the top of their lungs on a message board because they hate "them" so much.

Pretty clear which group I want to be part of. I feel bad for people who are so filled with hate that they can be so blind. I pity you :(

Odin 04-25-2009 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 15787344)
So we have some people who think love is love and people should get married if they wish, it's called freedom.

Then we have others who are filled with hate and screaming at the top of their lungs on a message board because they hate "them" so much.

Pretty clear which group I want to be part of. I feel bad for people who are so filled with hate that they can be so blind. I pity you :(

God you are an annoying little Commie. I want to drive at 300 kmph in a 60 zone it's called freedom! Cry me a river.

mineistaken 04-25-2009 04:18 AM

I don't support calling it marriage. Call it something else and I am ok with it

StuartD 04-25-2009 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief (Post 15787348)
God you are an annoying little Commie. I want to drive at 300 kmph in a 60 zone it's called freedom! Cry me a river.

So sad. I'd hate to live life so filled with hate. How many other people do you hate on a regular basis? How much time and energy do you waste just to hate people who aren't like you?

Odin 04-25-2009 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 15787354)
So sad. I'd hate to live life so filled with hate. How many other people do you hate on a regular basis? How much time and energy do you waste just to hate people who aren't like you?

I'd hate to have a life so empty of any worthwhile values, beliefs or morals that I had to classify anyone who didn't follow my VERY simplistic interpretation of equality was filled with "hate". Shouting freedom, peace, love and equality are nice, but meanwhile real people debate and deal with real issues based on real facts, culture, history, values and consequences. You are clearly not strong enough of a man to fit in the latter category. Shame really. Though I guess you don't see it that way, your happy ignorance must be bliss right?

StuartD 04-25-2009 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief (Post 15787375)
I'd hate to have a life so empty of any worthwhile values, beliefs or morals that I had to classify anyone who didn't follow my VERY simplistic interpretation of equality was filled with "hate". Shouting freedom, peace, love and equality are nice, but meanwhile real people debate and deal with real issues based on real facts, culture, history, values and consequences. You are clearly not strong enough of a man to fit in the latter category. Shame really. Though I guess you don't see it that way, your happy ignorance must be bliss right?

Wait, you are calling me "comie" and wanting to dictate your own restrictive rules on a group of people because they don't share your sexual preference and you're talking to me about morals and values?? I'm the simplistic one??

:1orglaugh oh that is too rich. Please, call me more names while you tell me that you debate and deal with real issues.

My happy ignorance means having an open mind and learning more about people that aren't like me. It means accepting change based on what is right.

Wait, that's not ignorance. That's having an open mind so as to not be ignorant. While you have a closed mind which means....

ah what ever. You're too blind with hate to ever understand. You're right. Call me more names. You win.

MaDalton 04-25-2009 07:31 AM

a question to those who oppose adoption for gay couples: what if a lesbian couple decides to have a kid - will you take it away from them? or force them to do an abortion?

i just saw something on TV today about a lesbian and a male couple to have a kid together. so one of the guys is the father and (logically) one of the women the mother. they live in 2 apartments in the same house. and the kid looked pretty happy with his 4 parents and a second kid is on the way. so who are we to tell them what they do is wrong?

LadyMischief 04-25-2009 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 15785706)
you have nothing logical to say, blonde and lesbo LoL

I think if you're looking for a lack of logic, check your own posts. You prove every time you open your mouth what a lame, prejudiced dickwad you are.

LadyMischief 04-25-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 15787623)
a question to those who oppose adoption for gay couples: what if a lesbian couple decides to have a kid - will you take it away from them? or force them to do an abortion?

i just saw something on TV today about a lesbian and a male couple to have a kid together. so one of the guys is the father and (logically) one of the women the mother. they live in 2 apartments in the same house. and the kid looked pretty happy with his 4 parents and a second kid is on the way. so who are we to tell them what they do is wrong?

Kids don't care... as long as they are loved, they are happy. Sure, they might get some razzing, but that's natural for children... Even with a "normal" textbook nuclear family, kids will get razzed. Children don't look back and remember a messy house, all the little things, they remember the love and nurturing they recieved. Sounds like those guys have a great arrangement.

NikKay 04-27-2009 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AlmightyJim (Post 15784916)
How about this...

Marriage = Legal License between a man and a woman

Civil Union = Legal License between a same sex couple.

First of all, I'm not saying this is a stupid idea because it's coming from a good place. Your idea is to create a solution that can make everyone feel comfortable, which is idealistic but there are a couple of issues with it.

1. Civil unions as they are currently suggested in the US do not allow the full set of rights provided by Marriage. They would have to be enacted and enforced on a FEDERAL level and completely cover all the things that Marriage provides from a legal standpoint. Creating separate sets of law for 2 completely similar cases is fiscally wasteful, not to mention downright silly.

2. Even if there were no substantive differences in the way the law treated Marriages and Civil Unions, the fact that a Civil Union remains a separate status represents real and powerful inequality. We?ve been down this road before in this country and should not kid ourselves that a separate institution just for gay people is a just solution here either.

Get this:France currently offers both Civil Marriage and Civil Unions. France's Civil Union law was created in 1999 because gays were not allowed to marry, and they didn't want gays to be able to marry. Now, after 10 years, one third of all straight couples getting "hitched" in France opt for Civil Unions instead of Marriage. The number of Civil Unions has grown annually from 6,000 in the first year of the law to 140,000 in 2008 - with 92% of the civil unions last year involving straight couples.

Here's an idea:

<Find> Marriage <Replace with> Civil Union
and let the church provide official "marriages" complete with their own list of guidelines if they feel the need to alienate certain classes of people. Our government should NOT be in the business of citizen alienation.

Rangermoore 04-27-2009 07:15 AM

Live and let live...so yes I support gay marriage....

polish_aristocrat 06-16-2009 11:11 AM

Lithuania passes ban on information on homosexuality

and yes, Lithuania is in the EU

Pleasurepays 06-16-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by NikKay (Post 15792529)
First of all, I'm not saying this is a stupid idea because it's coming from a good place. Your idea is to create a solution that can make everyone feel comfortable, which is idealistic but there are a couple of issues with it.

1. Civil unions as they are currently suggested in the US do not allow the full set of rights provided by Marriage. They would have to be enacted and enforced on a FEDERAL level and completely cover all the things that Marriage provides from a legal standpoint. Creating separate sets of law for 2 completely similar cases is fiscally wasteful, not to mention downright silly.

2. Even if there were no substantive differences in the way the law treated Marriages and Civil Unions, the fact that a Civil Union remains a separate status represents real and powerful inequality. We?ve been down this road before in this country and should not kid ourselves that a separate institution just for gay people is a just solution here either.

Get this:France currently offers both Civil Marriage and Civil Unions. France's Civil Union law was created in 1999 because gays were not allowed to marry, and they didn't want gays to be able to marry. Now, after 10 years, one third of all straight couples getting "hitched" in France opt for Civil Unions instead of Marriage. The number of Civil Unions has grown annually from 6,000 in the first year of the law to 140,000 in 2008 - with 92% of the civil unions last year involving straight couples.

Here's an idea:

<Find> Marriage <Replace with> Civil Union
and let the church provide official "marriages" complete with their own list of guidelines if they feel the need to alienate certain classes of people. Our government should NOT be in the business of citizen alienation.

you are saying "civil unions" don't do what we need to do.. but not saying "we need to modify civil unions so everyone is happy and we can put the issue behind us"

which also highlights the real issue and that's that the entire issue is NOT about "rights" at all. its about forcing others to accept a lifestyle as being the new norm which they are not willing to accept as such.


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