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baddog 07-22-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BobG (Post 16094128)
I guess that would mean that if they have been paying taxes, which I believe they have, they're not passing it on to the consumer.

I can go to a co-op in the Valley and pay 60 an 1/8. I can go to a co-op at the beach and buy the same 1/8 at $54.67 + tax.

Price is still $60.

media 07-22-2009 03:00 PM

Damn.. $350,000 in taxes.. that means he's making $19,444,444.44.00 annually in gross sales.. That falls just short of the federal law that says anyone making $20 million in one year on gross reciepts of marijuana sales can be put to death with the death penalty.. yowzas!

MaximX 07-22-2009 03:52 PM

That's good news for Cali.. I wish all states could do this:rasta:stoned

Darkland 07-22-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16093587)
...kinda like we dont understand why booze was illegal

That is an easy one and has tons of information to the subject if you pay attention to history.

1. Cars and everything else running on internal combustion engines can run on alcohol at least as well as they can run on gasoline. Indeed, engines were built back in 1870 that could run using either alcohol or gasoline.

2. That allowed the driver to switch the carburetor to run the engine on farm-made ethyl alcohol. This allowed the operator to stop at local farms (equipped with stills) to refuel his/her car during long trips through the back country. NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR IT AT GASSING STATIONS.

4. John D. Rockefeller, the industrialist-founder of the Standard Oil Company, had a virtual monopoly on gasoline at this time in our nation's development. The Standard Oil Company was pushing gasoline as an alternative fuel to alcohol.

3. John D. Rockefeller, under the ruse of Christian temperance, gave 4 million dollars to a group of old ladies and told them to fight for Prohibition. Why?

4. By getting Congress to pass Prohibition laws, Rockefeller eliminated his competition.

Viola... You have prohibition.

End of history lesson...

Rochard 07-22-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 16094523)
I think the potential problem you can get with that is that the cost of finding these people and fining them will be greater than the fines they will pay. I guess you could make the fines enormous, but then you would have judges throwing out the fines or reducing them. If some poor bastard got caught with a couple joints and hit with a 5K fine he could argue that the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

What does it cost to house some pothead in a cell for a year? Figure out the cost and send him a bill. If he doesn't pay, fucking impound his car.

I don't understand why smoking is legal and pot is a crime? Drinking is legal, but meth isn't? Yeah, I know there's a huge difference there but a drug is a drug. One shouldn't be legal and drive our health insurance while pot is a crime.

I don't smoke pot, haven't since I was sixteen, but I just don't get why it's against the law....

chronic avenger 07-22-2009 06:48 PM

I used to run a collective and we paid taxes every year!! now they are taxing every 1/8 qtr half etc... just my 2cents . at least the raids stopped

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-22-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by media (Post 16094980)
Damn.. $350,000 in taxes.. that means he's making $19,444,444.44.00 annually in gross sales.. That falls just short of the federal law that says anyone making $20 million in one year on gross reciepts of marijuana sales can be put to death with the death penalty.. yowzas!

http://endo.tv/wp-content/uploads/20...juana-bust.jpg

Sounds like their account wasn't high when he came up with that number... :winkwink:

ADG

kane 07-22-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 16095629)
What does it cost to house some pothead in a cell for a year? Figure out the cost and send him a bill. If he doesn't pay, fucking impound his car.

I don't understand why smoking is legal and pot is a crime? Drinking is legal, but meth isn't? Yeah, I know there's a huge difference there but a drug is a drug. One shouldn't be legal and drive our health insurance while pot is a crime.

I don't smoke pot, haven't since I was sixteen, but I just don't get why it's against the law....

I agree fully. I have probably smoked pot 5-7 times in my life. It is fun, but only on rare occasions. I'm sure some point in the future I'll smoke it again, but who knows.

I think is should be legal. Make it legal, sell it like the do cigarettes and tax it. They could raise a tone of money and would cut back on crime because you would be cutting the middle men out of it. You would have farmers growing it as a regular crop, not drug dealers smuggling it and hiding from the cops. I can understand why meth is illegal. It is a drug that many people use one time and instantly become hopelessly addicted to it. The recovery rate for meth addicts is about 10%. If you make that legal you could have a lot of people use it just out of curiosity and end up down a bad road.

Very few potheads ever see a jail. Unless you have enough on you that they consider you to be a dealer you will just get a ticket and be sent on your way. I have a bunch of friends that are cops and they recently busted a couple of guys that were dealers. They got a decent amount of pot from them, but they literally spent about 350 man hours setting it all up. That operation cost his department over 15K in overtime pay and other expenses. Chances are the guys will eventually get around 10K each in fines and will get probation (they might serve up to 9 months, but chances are they will plead down and take a long term probation). When you add in the cost of the department that busted them then the DA to prosecute and the public defenders office you rack up a lot of expenses pretty quickly. I supposed you could just bill them for it all and if they don't pay it impound their car and suspend their licenses, but then we are talking about criminals here and most of the time they are not very responsible people. They will probably just buy another car and drive illegally. Also if they get out of jail and are looking at 100K in debt they have little motivation to actually get a real job and reform their lives so they will be more tempted to go right back to crime.

I suppose you could hammer on them and seize property and visit them regularly where they live and take anything of value until it is paid back, but then you have the expense of having people carry out those actions.

Trying to profit by having the criminals pay is just something that really doesn't have much hope of working.

wizzart 07-23-2009 12:51 AM

marijuana is legal in California?
Here Im go!

InternetIsForPorn 07-23-2009 04:29 AM

I wish pot was legal. If it was, there would eventually be standardized quality control.

That way many of my friends wouldn't have smoked laced weed from shady dealers during school years, and wouldn't end up being drug addicts.. probably.

STAROTICA 07-23-2009 05:21 AM

Medical pot in cal is legal...ok......Oakland wants to tax it......

the gateway drug now is the gateway tax......

when they figure the net income produced from pot sales tax.....all drugs will be decriminalized :thumbsup


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