Yes , very valid point wired guy , but its not about that . not to me. Its about paying me for its usage. You cant get a girl pregnant , then undo it without financial issues. They used it, they made money off, pay for it. One way or another.Legal, or non legal. People need to start to be responsible for thier actions.

All of these tube sites...sending traffic to brazzers..killing the traffic to other sites? sounds like a cartel to me lol

Congrats on backing me up. Just like 80% of others here. Nothing we can do so just forget about it. Remember when blacks couldnt vote. Stupidest moment in our country, racism, but one person started the change amidst all the laughter. Thanks for taking your turn laughing at me.

Joe, I wholeheartedly support your effort to stop people from infringing on your content copyrights.

As for licensing to PornHub, perhaps somewhere in the wording of the license you have grounds for terminating their license. Many content licenses put limits on the specific number of pix, or length of clips, which may be used for promotion in a non-members area.

Also, I'm not sure if you are aware, but other Tube sites can embed Pornhub videos on their own sites. Obviously that exacerbates the situation, which is not good for you (ideally, that is a loophole you can use to cancel their license, such as you were unaware that Pornhub was allowing your content to be used on sites other than their own - therefore, they should pay you for all of the other sites your content appears on or have their license terminated).

Otherwise, I know it's not the best option, but perhaps you could refund the money they paid for their license, and then terminate the license.

Good luck! :thumbsup

ADG

While I agree with you, the DMCA protects them fully and what they're doing is legal so long as they take it down. I know it sucks, but you can blame the people who put the safe harbour clause in the DMCA for that.
WG

the long route will be costly man

:1orglaugh

Didn't know the copyright laws had changed. Someone steals one pic or video and has no release or 2257 paperwork ..seems like its fun for the attorneys and alot of money for you. Do you any of you know how easy it is to win a copyright lawsuite? Its easier than prosecuting someone who just robbed your house right in front of you in broad daylight. If I ran a paysite, I would have a young hungry lawyer suing everyone of them who dared post my copyrighted paid for content. If only a few did that, the problem would soon vanish. Or it might be so lucrative emptying the bank acounts of the thieves that it could be a more profitable endevor...

The way they look, some times they probably have to pay you to fuck them.

Thanks....I am trying my best to ensure that I have an extra hot spot in hell set aside for me.

If I walked into a voting booth during those times and they said that I as a black man was now allowed to vote, I'm not going to mouth off to him asking for my slave reparations.......Now instead of being to just place my vote, I gotta go through the process of changing the constitution.....

Even still, these issues are completely different....

after two years these threads are getting old.

good luck to you

at least you know theyll do more for another hit :thumbsup

True story: I decided to put all this talk about how great tube traffic is to the test. Wanted to see if a big tube can really send sales.

So I made myself a pornhub account. I used my claudia-marie.com email address and I uploaded 6 clips of claudia-marie that you can't find anywhere except in my members area (because I protect our shit). I made sure to watermark them in a way that they couldn't remove my watermark, I included the URL to Claudia-Marie's tour in the appropriate field as well AND I made sure to use my name.

Those guys know me and are affiliates of soloslutcash. So I wanted them to know it was me.

I waited a week and then got an email telling me the vids had been rejected and deleted.

Then when I tried to log in with my pornhub account...it doesn't exist anymore.

Then today I got an email from pornhub saying that they had noticed I was trying to ADVERTISE on them (that's what it means when you upload a vid that they can't un-watermark). The email states that they no longer do "free advertisement" and asked me to get in touch with them to buy advertising.

So in other words...I can PAY them to use MY vids to draw them traffic. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Gotta admit that's pretty ballsy.

You're the first person I've ever seen post how easy it is to win copyright lawsuits. If it's true and you will elaborate, I'm sure it would go a LONG way to cleaning up the internet.

More info please :)

Classic :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Also if they don't allow user uploads wouldn't the dmca not protect them ?

feces, meet fan

its impossible to upload video to any tube site and get it listed
they upload all that shit themselves

and it be funny how them tubes charge sponsors to submit their exclusive content. here be redtubes:
Due to great demand for our video spots we are selling a limited number of
them on a monthly basis; recently the video spots sold at a rate of
USD15-20k for placement of 30 vids (i.e. 1 video per day for a month)
in blind auctions; Pls keep in mind that after that initial period the
videos will stay on and still generate business for you in the coming
months. If interested pls provide us with an ftp download link so our
video crew can check out the content (we also require copyright and
2257 docs).

I believe they DO allow user uploads. But as I said in my post...I purposefully watermarked these clips so they couldn't use zoom and cut it out. So they would have had to display the vid with a watermark identifying it as claudia-marie.com

Now if I decided to upload an unwatermarked or "nomally" watermarked vid that they could remove my watermark then they would without a doubt put it up.

The bad part is they are so zeroed in on having pornhub strictly be a traffic generator for their own stuff at brazzers or pre-paid "advertising" that they didn't even consider just putting their own SoloSlutCash link code on the vids and making sales.

Some people might think that's dumb...but it's actually smart on their part. Why send traffic anywhere except Brazzers? For what? A few sales? (If a tube can make them anyway) Nope, they are gonna make that pre-paid money and at the same time brand the hell out of Brazzers so that they never have to depend on affiliate traffic ever again. (that is if any of us have any traffic left anymore lol)

:winkwink:

A lot of programs are moving in this direction and openly admit to it at the shows.

Welcome to the internet, read the dmca or hire a lawyer to read it for you. They have no obligation to compensate you for it's distribution.

Hey Joe,

E-mail Corey Silverstein [email protected] and he'll hook you up with the proper templates to be using for DMCA, etc. The law and process is inadequate we can all agree but if it's your content that you want to have not illegally in use you have to follow the simple rule set and we can help you with your learning curve with that.

Outside of that, if anyone is giving you a hard time, Corey will assist as he is able to do with all MojoHost customers.

Cheers,

Brad

to the top :pimp

Its time for the laws to change. laws CAN be changed. I dont care what DCMA says. If someone has a video i can see by way of thier site , that has not recieved a license for, it should be copyright violation.

interesting, wouldn't zooming in and taking out watermarks completely toss out the DMCA ? I thought DMCA was used to basically say this is from a user, we don't touch it, we don't manipulate it. it's either there or on proof of copyright violation taken down?

seems to me this would change the whole argument? I'm not a DMCA expert by any means, but I thought it was like either Users upload with no supervision ( approval ) or if using approval or modifications, then requires proof of ownership?

Im truely amazed about some of the responses in here.

Yup, if they review it for approval before adding it to the site then they do not qualify for safe-harbor status.

A group of webmasters in the transsexual market, from multiple sites/companies including ours got together and hired a specific DMCA agent, who spends 40 hrs a week, surfing the tubes, the forums posting links to Rapidshare and other file sharing hosts and DMCA'ing them in mass.
It would be naive to think that the industry as a whole could do a similar thing, especially when I see all the crappy attitudes on this board but I would have thought some other niches, especially those that work on cross-promoting each other, could get together and do the same.
It saves you time and effort having to search them down yourself and most of our stuff, which is unique to the usual crappy licensed shemale content most of the sites have, off the tubes most of the time.

Food for thought people, if our niche can do it, so can yours.
If you are a TS producer/website and want part of this, email me at [email protected] with your details and site details. We're in our 5 month doing it.

this is sad

What a douchebag he is. Good luck Joe, those guys are full of shit.

You know, the ambitious lawyer could do a Fistfull of Dollars on this place....

Have you ever posted a youtube embed or a random funny picture on GFY or any other board? Should that be a copyright violation? Should GFY license all these fail pics which are posted every day?

That is correct.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

QFT :2 cents:

If pornhub/brazzers/keez follows the law, they are legal.... it's that simple...

scrapping is legal under the cache exemption
no one from inside the company has to "upload" movies to start.

i really suggest you look at the law again, it not that cut and dry
if it were the act of stopping kiddie porn would making shutting down these tube sites easy as one court order.

youtube did not lose the safe harbor provision because they stopped nudity from being shown on their site.
you can have screening rules and still be protected by the safe harbor provision
just because youtube can hire some 6/day grunts to look for naughty bits in the video doesn't mean they can screen for copyright/fair use. only $300/hour lawyer would have the skill to tell the difference between fair use and infringing use of copyrighted material (hell given the number of bogus complaints that viacom issued not even $300/hour can do that).