Yeah no kidding.

"Not guilty...One of my anonymous users uploaded it, Your Honor."

We all know how much bullshit that is.

true dat. hookers, pimps and thieves are tending to the flock.

i would think that's proof they're no longer DCMA 'user uploaded' and no longer protected under such legislation!!!!!!!!

if they are scanning content, they are no longer DCMA proteted.

WTF! Why didn't you just give him the links to where your content is and just let him take it down?

Sounds like he was trying to do the right thing but you wanted to play Mr Big Dick with him so he told you to pound sand.

You get more done with honey than with vinegar.

spacedog? i thought you were dead?

didn't you get the award a few years back for the biggest moron on GFY?

That's so true!

But he was :mad:

Hell, I do not know what they paid for or not, but if stuff like this is pirated, then they should be shut down:
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=755792348

LOL so what youre saying is its OK to steal content , as long as they take it down when they get caught ?????

fucking amazing.

That's exactly what the DMCA allows...
WG

no he is saying the guy gave you a chance to jump the que not have to jump thru any legal hoops that protect him from your bogus claim that it some sort of theft.

And you thumbed your nose at him because you don't like the way the law is currently written.

That just plain stupid.

That what he is saying.

I think you should have taken his offer for the easy way, as much as I understand your frustration of those content thieves getting away with shit and all, in the end it would have been the most swift way.

Writing on boards like these will get you pro and contra responses but no solution!

There are many discussions about content thieves and how to handle them, but simply said, if you ain't got the time and money to prosecute them then just DMCA them.
If you have to DMCA the same website like 50 times a month, you've got a strong basis for prosecuting them like this other guy did. (forgot his name, other GFY topic here)

shes fuckin hawt

correct, but see, with youtube, their filtering was simple. ( no nudity , and that's easy to prove you are active in, and videos did go up first, then come down )

what i'm saying is, if they are not allowing a submit to go up first, then they have to have some criteria which is published no? something that defines what they are filtering out? so you know what their guideline is for this filtering, and that would be after the fact.

since a porn tube is all porn, they would be filtering against what exactly? it certainly couldn't be filtering against copyrighted material, b/c if they said that, they would be saying they have team that filters that, and that team would be failing, which would then say, they could be open for suit? and in that same regard, as described above, the poster I was referring to said he opened an account in the program name, hoping to allow his content ( which should break no rules compared to their content listed ) on their site to share just like any other user. but either because he had watermarks ( which you can't filter, bc they have many with watermarks, often for a different site ) or becasue he isn't paying to play, should then exempt them from the DMCA clause.

they would be saying, well, you're not paying for the right to display your own content, so no game, but the other users are then all paying for the right to display content? and if that was the case, what safegaurds are then in place to make sure those paying customers aren't copyright infringing? and what info is collected? what info can be then shared with the original copyright holder?

seems to whichever way you cut it, this instance cannot be compared to Youtube, b/c Youtube basically said, we have millions of uploaders that upload, and we don't pre-approve them, but we filter for one set of things ( nudity based ) and therefore can only work in a reactive method to take down your content.

i'm sure there is a finite amount of users that upload stolen content on their own, b/c the activity is demonstrated in forums, and that is ok. but you cannot say that these tubes can have it both ways.

you can't force someone to pay to be listed without guidelines, and once you have those guidelines, they have to be enforeced the whole way down or you should be open for suit.

turning a blind eye for those that follow one behavior ( un watermarked, re watermarked, full length videos ) and denying other behavior ( watermarked, shorter movies ) won't work. that just demonstrates a pre-meditated business plan that won't follow any safe harbors.

I don't think porntubes could prove they have any of these things in place, and therefore, dmca would only go so far ....

How much did they want to charge you?

woooooooooooooowwww!! This is unreal!

:error Read what I posted a second time, but this time around do it S L O W E R!

Where the fuck do you come up with this shit. :1orglaugh

WHERE in my post, or any post EVER did I say it was ok to steal content.

My whole point was you should of told him where your shit is and let them take it down, but you wanted to get into a pissing match.

Of course you're upset, but getting into a pissing match via informal IM chat isn't the way to get the results you want.

Were it me, I'd of given them the urls to get the shit removed and then waited til the shit was removed before getting into the pissing match.

Youre god dam right i wanna get in a pissing match as everyone else here is saying take the easy way out. I say bullshit. I may try stuff and get no where but im going to try. Everyones saying just let them take it down. Most of you saying it havent spent tons of cash and hours producing. You sit home and watch the world go by. I may be wrong but thats how I feel.

Also Spacedog, im not trying to put words in your mouth saying you said its ok to steal. I didnt mean it to come off that way.

just another digital gangster.

Lets see these people face to face be this brave while fucking with another man's lively hood.These guys should be ****** for shit like this.

They will get what's coming to them, karma is very real, hopefully one day they are financially destroyed from lawsuits.

roflroflroflrofl!!!!!!!!!!!! Loooooooooooooooooooool

spAmacontent, your stuff is also sprinkled throughout youjizz.com as well. Heads up.

Hopefully you have better luck fighting tubes than you did fighting Sobegirl, who's claim to fame was his dodge neon. I doubt the owner of KeezMovies drives a Neon, know what I mean? $$$$

Good luck to ya! :pimp

a no watermark rule is just as arbitritary as youtube's no nudity rule.
If youtube is allowed to make an arbitrary rule and keep DMCA safe harbor protection
so can any porntube site.


it really depends on the guidelines
they would have to be uniform, but a guideline based on watermarking
robbie mentioned that the watermarked it enough that it was impossible for it to be zoomed out
that would represent a level that would be potentially very intrusive
that would cause the tube site to lose repeat viewership.

personally this model is stupid, charging for the right to upload is counter productive to the user generated content
selling views, is a much better solution
let people upload as much as they want and set up account system that allows them to buy views from the related video bar below videos
spiking your traffic views to get honors (most viewed, etc)
the problem is that these tube guys are tgp guys not seo guys running them
they don't realize the massive value that the keywords have on their site.

much appreciated