^ Exactly. Surfers/ potential online buyer won't trust cheap design sites in some cases.

If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right.
Henry Ford

Oh i'm up for candid pics definately :) :) I want to pick up a cheap tiny camera to take with me out and about as my iphone camera isn't really good enough... i guess it's okay for twitter though :) Going to upload one now :) :) Follow me: elishajade

hehe ;)

One reason people are in trouble now is their practices from the past. Let's take you Shap for example. When you left Canada and saved all that cash on taxes, where did you put it? BACK into the company and produced MORE high quality content.

What would have a bunch of others done? Cashed out, bought yachts, houses, etc ... all but what they should have done, re-invest back into the company. So when making money got harder, the surfers and webmasters started to pay the price. Less updates for sites, fewer tools, companies closing shop owing WMs money, no new sites, etc.

Now without those surfers and those webmasters, programs just started to lose even more money. They then found themselves scrambling to find ways to generate money and keep their webmasters. Unfortunately for many it was too late.

TopBucks has always tried to stay ahead of the trends because we know that normal paysites have declined. We went the route of mobile over other avenues and we found it to be quite successful. People just need to innovate. Sadly, I think if the industry was as competitive as it is today back in 2000, more than half wouldn't have succeeded because they couldn't innovate.

Great post

some bad ass advices !

except when they say "adapt or die" they simply mean "copy what everyone else is doing right now"

this industry is full of people who flow to the path of least resistance and then as they gather in a puddle of fail at the bottom of the hill, they figure out what to blame.

That is very true. Basically it is an industry where a few people do something different then a bunch of people copy it and hope to be successful at it.

i chose B and will not be spending any more of my time defending myself against that decision

I thought you were going to show your stats. Seeing numbers would motivate people more than a pep talk.

As for me, I diversified into mainstream, so my business is now half mainstream and half adult and so far this year has been my best ever.

While money can of course be a great motivator, not everyone is motivated by it. Personally I don't really care how much money I make, as long as I make enough to keep my self happy.

What motivates me is being on my own time and not doing some 9 to 5 grind working for someone else. I like having the ability to do what ever I want, when ever I want. I did the whole busting my ass thing running two business before I was 25 and TBH, I got burt out on it.

Now I like working as little as possible and don't really care if I have a Lambo sitting in my garage or not. Having lots of money is nice and all, but if you have to work non stop to get it, what's the point?

I enjoy being lazy. :)

First of all, let me call bullshit. I just saw you LOL at Teen Revenue and call them dumb I believe, for trying to sue a tube site. THAT (them) is kicking ass, even if they were unable to archive what they wanted. They actually had the balls to step into an unknown arena while everyone else is crying about it, and you LOL'd at them for it. That was very lame on your behalf and not very positive at all. In fact, it was extremely negative, hence my post here. :2 cents:

Couldn't agree more!

The adult industry to me has been more of a liberty then anything. Being able to travel and live the easy life while always making enough not to have any worries.

Sure I could make more but what's the point if you don't have time to enjoy it :)

That being said we're all different, I understand those busting their balls to get to the top, I tried that in my youth and it was a lot of fun but didn't suit me in the long run.

so am I?

all the interesting people are......

what did you expect, successful people to be pussies?

idiot :2 cents:

Shap is right, stop bitching and being a crybaby, get Your lazy asses o and work harder.

in fact the business concept has a basic structure at all what ever the business is, things will change, the company the businessmen/companies will grow who could follow the new trends and could come with something new, the rest will cry for a while then give up.

at the same time, my idea is we should consider our so called industry understanding is wider, we shouldn't call our industry is a "porn industry", we should call something wider then that,

it could be even "adult industry" or "online/interweb industry", with that way we can combine shit together and could come up with something new.

i m maybe one of the webmasters here who gave up dialers later then anyone,

when people start switching adsl connection dialers almost dead and we were looking for some new ideas on something similar to dialers,

we were like fishes taken out of the water and didn't know what to do next,

we got 2 options, we would do something new or we would give up,

we didn't give up, we promoted phone sex, sold sex goods then totally adapted to paysites.

that's it, just whining and bitching all day on the boards or keep doing same old shit is not the way of success,we will adapt, work hard and always seek something new, that's the only way imho :2 cents:

Well put. I couldn't have said it better myself.

That's fair enough. Everybody's priorities are different.

Personally I see it as a short term sacrifice for long term freedom. If you do just enough to be happy and get by and be lazy then you'll have to do that for the next 50 years. However, if you bust ass for 10 years you can probably be really lazy for the next 50 ;) That's the way I see it :winkwink:

I've made a bunch of negative posts. If someone is being retarded I don't have a problem calling them out on it. I haven't made any negative threads (or at last any I can remember).

I give teenrevenue points for trying but at the end of the day it was a retarded lawsuit. I hope they fired their lawyer.

Great post shap!

I've heard a bunch of people say our buddy Lars is one too. He's the most interesting successful person I know :winkwink:

true that

Sad thing is your not really an asshole but oh well i guess you can live with GFYers calling you that, I know a vast majority of people think I am one :) (probably rightly)

You and Sleazy aren't anything like Lars, that I'm aware of.

It's a big difference between being an asshole and being a douche bag that stole from people he called friends. Normally criminals and scammers, are interesting people.

All the more reason they deserve no respect for the success they have gotten.

did not see this thread or I would not have made my "stop crying" thread lol.

well put Shap, keep these motivational threads coming to us :thumbsup

hard work produces results people, most of us are living proof.

"THIS AIN'T GRADE SCHOOL, MOTHERFUCKERS."
Quote of the decade
~The Fred~ 2004

We are trying to build a network of those solo model sites interacting as much as possible with the members on www.lifestyleamateurs.com

The theory is, the closer we can get the member to the model, the longer he will stay a member.

If it shall work, the models has to be REAL and don't make it up.

Great thread!

last 6 months i had a growth rate of +20% monthly, more advertisers and opportunity than ever.

xxx,xxx / month in my stats remote only

excellent post

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=934541

Ahh makes sense now, sorta goes around in a big circle.