Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran...

Meaning you have spoken to one (maybe two at most) of your friends a long time ago and they didn't know anything about it. So therefore you aren't prepared to take the word of someone there who has been and see the pipeline being built with their own eyes...that speaks volumes about you. It says you are closed minded and unwilling to be objective. It says you will never believe it, even when you are told it exists. Hell if someone posted a picture of it, you would probably say it's manipulated image. Anything to prove you're right...

That speaks more to your online searching skills than it does about the existence of a pipeline. Also means there is a possibly that some powerful people prefer the current media story of the war being based around fighting a battle with "terror" than it does anything else.

The war on terror can never be won, because it has no target. It is just a word and can therefore be manipulated by anyone for their own needs. The only "winner" from a war on terror is those that profit from war...that is my opinion.

You are not anywhere close to be correct about any of your assumptions...thank you very much. You are now dismissed.

how funny that your ever-so-predictable response is hostility I feel real sympathy for you because all those years of being in the military have probably taught you that hostility is the best form of defense. However it is you who are wrong. Dismissed or not you won't bully me

It is you who looks like the fool. :thumbsup:1orglaugh

Is this 6th fucking grade? What's next, telling him 'yo momma' jokes?

The press is actually discounting the pipeline "theory":
http://www.slate.com/?id=2059487
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1626889.stm

The actual plans for the pipeline, 2002:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/1984459.stm

That must be one helluva pipeline to take this long to build. The trans-Alaska only took about 3 1/2 years.

what are they arguing? That a pipeline will not be built? That the US wouldn't be interested?

A pipeline will be built starting "officially" in 2010 and the US is backing it...

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...0619/undefined

Hmmmm.... If I was President, I'd go back to the old ways and arm the warlords, and let them all fight it out. Then, I'd buy the last man standing.

We'd save a lot of American lives; but, the Afgans would never know the joys of McDonalds.

You guys are all fucking idiots.

They've been building this pipeline since the mid 1980s. Or at least talking about it.

As for this pipeline, you do you know that at any given time there are dozens of pipelines being built? They are building one in Venezuela, why aren't we attacking them? We get more oil from from Venezuela than we do Afghanistan....

How would the US benefit from this magical pipeline?

- Cheaper oil? Nope. A single pipeline, no matter how important, doesn't effect the price of gas.
- More oil? Nope. We get most our oil from Cananda. No pipeline in Afghanistan is going to change that.
- More money? Nope. We don't get any money from that.

And if the bulk of the US forces three was protecting one single pipeline, don't you think the entire world would know about it? Because you can't have tens of thousands of troops guarding one pipeline and not have everyone on earth know about it. Don't be stupid.

uh? What would be the official excuse to invade Venezuela? lol



you're serious? no money to be made there?

and that is why the administration ended the war or was that not reported much?

By the way, there is NO oil in afghanistan, no gas either ,,, Pipeline just go thru it ... Pretty risky now, no ?

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/afghanistan.asp

Tell that to the families of the ones killed there..

Your full of shit... I have been to both Iraq 04-05 Afghanistan 06 and never did I see anything of what you are talking about.. But then again you KBR folks never left the FOB..

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messed that one up.

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My hostility level rises when people make wild ass assumptions...when they are totally ignorant of any facts.

I have serious doubts that the building of a pipeline will begin until armed conflict is virtually ended and I do not predict that to be the case in 2010...as the pipeline would be to easy of a target and virtually impossible to protect.

Did you serve with the 75th Ranger Regiment...and if so did you ever know a Shawn Ossinger?

theKing/Pathfinder is a psychologically impaired person who pretends he was in the military.

Everybody go home and stop fighting wars.

Ignorance personified.

:1orglaugh

Venezuela is working with Russia, and as a superpower, USA are not going to start a nuclear war over Venezuela. Next question....Afghanistan is only a conduit for the pipeline. The only thing the US wants is a stable regime to control the pipeline security and the resulting flow of dollars.

The oil comes through/from from Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Central Asia into India. The demand will be growing for decades to come. Whatever is left of the oil resource can be sold at astronomical prices. Supply versus demand. It is clear and obvious to anyone with a grain of smarts about them that oil is running out fast. Everyone needs it. If you control it and the currency it is dealt in, you hold the power. This would be one of the biggest pipeline flows in the world, and would negate the need to rely on the Russians or Iran for oil. Independence when it comes to oil saves/makes billions of dollars.
Smug but not too smart. Again your answer is woefully off target. If you control the majority of the worlds oil you can set your own price. No-one can stop you.

How lucky you are to be so mercifully free from the ravages of intelligence. If you build a pipeline through to India as planned then US oil interests who control the flow of that oil stand to make billions in profits as India's demand for oil increases...really, really obvious stuff here.

Woops! Wrong again.

Oh dear. Guess what? Yup, wrong again. Unocal = US corporation.

We're not at all stupid. I applaud your debating skills though. Starting off by calling everyone fucking idiots shows how thoughtful you really are. good for you.

You should listen to Rochard.... and stop reading Internet crap. Just to point out one factor..

Top U.S. Crude Oil Supplier -- Canada - 1,956,000 barrels/day
Top U.S. Total Petroleum Supplier -- Canada - 2,493,000 barrels/day

fyi, the trans-afghan pipeline is for natural gas, not oil.

You guys are fucking hilarious

The media would know? Ummm, who do you think owns the media? This is not 1965, this is 2009 and the for profit media reports on what it's told to report on. Not to mention, there are MANY off-limits areas of Afghanistan.

King, why do you think there is conflict there? THERE WAS NO CONFLICT until western forces invaded.

A pipeline there is no different than a pipeline in Iraq. Sure, easy targets, but that is why you have PMC's and the US Military, to protect them. Both are protecting oil fields in Iraq, when the pipeline is complete, they will be protecting that too.

Well, the governments of the world have a track record of doing incredibly stupid things. This is nothing new. Besides, if you had any idea of how much money is involved, it's not so stupid.

It's not to get oil FROM Afghanistan, it's to control the oil moving THROUGH it. Think about it. You may just have an "ah-ha" moment.

It's a mix of military and PMC's. I can get you a job doing it if you want. I have good contacts at a few PMCs who are always hiring qualified men.

You are living in a DREAM WORLD if you think the world knows about what goes on ANYWHERE. The world knows what it is told.

I understand that Canada provides most oil to US. I am in Canada. I read (mostly) newspapers, not internet conspiracy sites. In deference to what he said I agree it's likely that the support of Canada and its oil will long continue, but I contend that the flow of gas through this pipeline will change US corporations income to the greater mighty dollar. Collectively the oil corporations who are financing this in conjunction with the Asian Development Bank stand to make billions.Oil/gas it's all the same issue-control.

I refuse to listen to someone who starts their message with "you are all fucking idiots". He may have the most salient point to make but the fact that he starts insulting people is why he loses all my respect at that point, end of story.

I know and am in contact with about a half dozen people that are currently serving in Afghanistan and I have sent out feelers to them. I have already gotten a response from a friend that served two tours in Afghanistan and flies a transport helicopter (he is currently serving in Iraq)...and he told me that he flew extensively over Afghanistan and that he never saw and never heard about a major pipeline being under construction...so if one is currently under construction it is a well kept secret even from our troops...let alone the world press and our own members of Congress.

I've surveyed just about every inch of that God forsaken country. I've seen the plans and seen the early stages of the pipeline with my own eyes. I've touched the pipe.

Just because such an operation is beyond your military pay grade, that doesn't mean it's not real. I don't mean that in a negative way, I'm just being straight. There are a lot of things happening in both of these two countries neither you nor I know about.

I guess then, I was part of an imaginary project. If your friends haven't seen it, especially one who flies helicopters, then it doesn't exist. :2 cents:

You are talking to people who know, who have no reason to tell you about their job there. I, on the other hand, have been there, seen it, touched it, worked on it. At no time did I hear anyone discussing how they couldn't wait to tell their buddies in the USA, what they were up to.

If you were in the military, which I believe you say you were, then you know first hand, you do what you're told and you don't ask questions. If your job is to shovel shit and ditches all day, then that is all you know during that time. If you are patrolling Kabul, I doubt you're going to have any data on a oil or gas pipeline being built in another area of the country, especially if it's an area where you have never been to and not allowed to go to.

There won't be a link for something that's pretty top secret. Friends who've had a bit too much to drink and are very privy to such information(and have seen it) have told me. :winkwink:

If it's not searchable in Google and his friends have not seen it, then it doesn't exist.

King, your friends we not on the moon either. Did we land there or not?

Just caught that second part. Well played sir.

Sadly, you're right, many don't leave. I did spend a lot of time in Fenty, though, most of my time was out surveying the land for back up routes for the pipeline, in the event it had to be moved. Spent a lot of time in Lwara too. I was there back in 2002 when those fucks fired 6 rockets into it.

Most of my friends that are still on active duty are career military...close to the twenty year-thirty year mark. They all are Senior NCO's with a few being officers and a 2nd Lt who I broke in as a Platoon Leader (I was his Platoon Sgt.) now being a Lt CoL. These are not stupid people and they know people throughout the branches of service...as I stated...I have put feelers out...so over the next few weeks I will be getting responses back.

Knock yourself out. I've been there and seen it. It doesn't matter to me what your friends tell you, or if they even tell you. It's there being built right now. IT'S NOT FUNCTIONAL YET, but it's being built.

Actually, there are both oil and gas pipelines.

I also worked on the GAS line out of Uzbekistan and into Bagram. That is running, as is the one to Shindand.

It's the oil pipe and some new gas lines that are being built.

Sometimes I am provided with privileged information and if it turns out to be the case I of course will not speak about it.

The gas part is not true. Afghanistan has a large natural gas reserve, around 4-6 trillion cubic feet of it. The issue is, Afghanistan is worth more by using it as a gateway country to transport oil and gas.

Three more that are currently serving in Afghanistan have responded and they...like me...are aware that there have been plans in the works to possibly build a pipeline but are not aware of any major pipeline currently under construction.

Haha, Mr Ice prob touched the Trans Afgan Pipe Line (having some repairs done on it) and thought it was some secret, gov cover up, that the U.S. is in on.

Now we have some super gas line that the U.S. Military doesn't know about, Does NOT Protect for some reason (cause it never gets attacked?), ohhhhh.... and NOBODY has a Camera.

Then why have so many Canadians come home from Afghanistan in body bags?

No conflict my ass.

Maybe they died from boredom...guarding that mysterious pipeline that is under construction...CD.

One more has responded and is not aware of any major pipeline that is under construction.

generally there is not much cross talk between KBR upperlevels and the average joe's on the ground. Usually would have to be either working in close proximity to them, or in staff meetings to be up on what they are working on.
Most guys don't know or care what KBR is up to, until they hire a bunch of ethiopians to work the dining facility and you get sick over and over from dysintary :repuke