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Mr. Cool Ice 08-21-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangermoore (Post 16215740)
Your full of shit... I have been to both Iraq 04-05 Afghanistan 06 and never did I see anything of what you are talking about.. But then again you KBR folks never left the FOB..

I've surveyed just about every inch of that God forsaken country. I've seen the plans and seen the early stages of the pipeline with my own eyes. I've touched the pipe.

Just because such an operation is beyond your military pay grade, that doesn't mean it's not real. I don't mean that in a negative way, I'm just being straight. There are a lot of things happening in both of these two countries neither you nor I know about.

Mr. Cool Ice 08-21-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16218258)
I know and am in contact with about a half dozen people that are currently serving in Afghanistan and I have sent out feelers to them. I have already gotten a response from a friend that served two tours in Afghanistan and flies a transport helicopter (he is currently serving in Iraq)...and he told me that he flew extensively over Afghanistan and that he never saw and never heard about a major pipeline being under construction...so if one is currently under construction it is a well kept secret even from our troops...let alone the world press and our own members of Congress.

I guess then, I was part of an imaginary project. If your friends haven't seen it, especially one who flies helicopters, then it doesn't exist. :2 cents:

You are talking to people who know, who have no reason to tell you about their job there. I, on the other hand, have been there, seen it, touched it, worked on it. At no time did I hear anyone discussing how they couldn't wait to tell their buddies in the USA, what they were up to.

If you were in the military, which I believe you say you were, then you know first hand, you do what you're told and you don't ask questions. If your job is to shovel shit and ditches all day, then that is all you know during that time. If you are patrolling Kabul, I doubt you're going to have any data on a oil or gas pipeline being built in another area of the country, especially if it's an area where you have never been to and not allowed to go to.

trevesty 08-21-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16210205)
I know that plans were made years ago for a pipeline and those plans have been updated from time to time...but I am unable to find anything that says a pipeline is currently being built in Afghanistan. Do you or anyone have a link? What is your definition of black ops?

There won't be a link for something that's pretty top secret. Friends who've had a bit too much to drink and are very privy to such information(and have seen it) have told me. :winkwink:

Mr. Cool Ice 08-21-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartbucks Trev (Post 16218537)
There won't be a link for something that's pretty top secret.

If it's not searchable in Google and his friends have not seen it, then it doesn't exist.

King, your friends we not on the moon either. Did we land there or not?

Mr. Cool Ice 08-21-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangermoore (Post 16215740)
But then again you KBR folks never left the FOB..

Just caught that second part. Well played sir.

Sadly, you're right, many don't leave. I did spend a lot of time in Fenty, though, most of my time was out surveying the land for back up routes for the pipeline, in the event it had to be moved. Spent a lot of time in Lwara too. I was there back in 2002 when those fucks fired 6 rockets into it.

theking 08-21-2009 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 16218553)
If it's not searchable in Google and his friends have not seen it, then it doesn't exist.

King, your friends we not on the moon either. Did we land there or not?

Most of my friends that are still on active duty are career military...close to the twenty year-thirty year mark. They all are Senior NCO's with a few being officers and a 2nd Lt who I broke in as a Platoon Leader (I was his Platoon Sgt.) now being a Lt CoL. These are not stupid people and they know people throughout the branches of service...as I stated...I have put feelers out...so over the next few weeks I will be getting responses back.

Mr. Cool Ice 08-21-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16218612)
Most of my friends that are still on active duty are career military...close to the twenty year-thirty year mark. They all are Senior NCO's with a few being officers and a 2nd Lt who I broke in as a Platoon Leader (I was his Platoon Sgt.) now being a Lt CoL. These are not stupid people and they know people throughout the branches of service...as I stated...I have put feelers out...so over the next few weeks I will be getting responses back.

Knock yourself out. I've been there and seen it. It doesn't matter to me what your friends tell you, or if they even tell you. It's there being built right now. IT'S NOT FUNCTIONAL YET, but it's being built.

Mr. Cool Ice 08-21-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16218200)
fyi, the trans-afghan pipeline is for natural gas, not oil.

Actually, there are both oil and gas pipelines.

I also worked on the GAS line out of Uzbekistan and into Bagram. That is running, as is the one to Shindand.

It's the oil pipe and some new gas lines that are being built.

theking 08-21-2009 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 16218643)
Knock yourself out. I've been there and seen it. It doesn't matter to me what your friends tell you, or if they even tell you. It's there being built right now. IT'S NOT FUNCTIONAL YET, but it's being built.

Sometimes I am provided with privileged information and if it turns out to be the case I of course will not speak about it.

Mr. Cool Ice 08-21-2009 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 16215711)
By the way, there is NO oil in afghanistan, no gas either ,,, Pipeline just go thru it ...

The gas part is not true. Afghanistan has a large natural gas reserve, around 4-6 trillion cubic feet of it. The issue is, Afghanistan is worth more by using it as a gateway country to transport oil and gas.

theking 09-02-2009 03:15 AM

Three more that are currently serving in Afghanistan have responded and they...like me...are aware that there have been plans in the works to possibly build a pipeline but are not aware of any major pipeline currently under construction.

TheDoc 09-02-2009 05:30 AM

Haha, Mr Ice prob touched the Trans Afgan Pipe Line (having some repairs done on it) and thought it was some secret, gov cover up, that the U.S. is in on.

Now we have some super gas line that the U.S. Military doesn't know about, Does NOT Protect for some reason (cause it never gets attacked?), ohhhhh.... and NOBODY has a Camera.

CDSmith 09-02-2009 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 16209525)
That's because there is no conflict.

Wake up people. Anyone who has served there will tell you this.

Then why have so many Canadians come home from Afghanistan in body bags?

No conflict my ass.

theking 09-02-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 16266668)
Then why have so many Canadians come home from Afghanistan in body bags?

No conflict my ass.

Maybe they died from boredom...guarding that mysterious pipeline that is under construction...CD.

theking 09-03-2009 06:52 PM

One more has responded and is not aware of any major pipeline that is under construction.

donteattuna 09-03-2009 10:14 PM

generally there is not much cross talk between KBR upperlevels and the average joe's on the ground. Usually would have to be either working in close proximity to them, or in staff meetings to be up on what they are working on.
Most guys don't know or care what KBR is up to, until they hire a bunch of ethiopians to work the dining facility and you get sick over and over from dysintary :repuke


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