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JFK 08-20-2009 12:05 PM

Fitty New Programs:thumbsup

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-20-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 16211886)
thanks for proving my point for me.

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Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 16211921)
*shrug* i know this niche very well.

And how does "knowing this niche very well" have to do if you can find someone who can run the operation from beginning until end?

I agree with Anthony, your horse is about to get taken out from under you, and it's gonna be an epic moment, because despite all the trolls here, there are MANY big players who know their shit lurking around.

NaughtyRob 08-20-2009 01:20 PM

I have a studio, experience and can do it. If you have the funds to let me fly girls in, its very doable.

CheeseHead Nacho Burger 08-20-2009 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 16211863)
you're not going to find that person on GFY.

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 16211880)
LOL, retard!

What's funny, Mr. Pheer, is that you don't realize just who you're talking to. Not only does annaliese run her own successful program in the niche being discussed, she's the daughter of adult internet royalty and is very tight with other adult internet royalty. When she talks, you should probably shut your mouth and start taking notes.

Alan would do well to make an attempt at speaking with her.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-20-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CheeseHead Nacho Burger (Post 16214194)
What's funny, Mr. Pheer, is that you don't realize just who you're talking to. Not only does annaliese run her own successful program in the niche being discussed, she's the daughter of adult internet royalty and is very tight with other adult internet royalty. When she talks, you should probably shut your mouth and start taking notes.

Alan would do well to make an attempt at speaking with her.

You got a little brown on your nose...

There are MANY people here qualified to do EXACTLY what Alan wants done, and she did nothing but spit in all of their faces with her comment.

Being porn royalty does not give you the rights to do that and then have everyone bow and kiss your toes. It's porn, not the mafia.

ToplistBlog_Com 08-20-2009 02:44 PM

I think the more sites of this nature, the better, though I can imagine it'd be difficult to replicate the success.

IllTestYourGirls 08-20-2009 05:30 PM

Man I would love to get my teeth into something like this.

DatingGold 08-20-2009 06:13 PM

I'm not looking for it to be porn, rather more mainstream but yes with nudity. Nudity is king in this genre. You can call it art or you can call if freaky chicks I don't care. Either is great in my book.

We are very good at building communities and I have a good name for the brand. We would want to build a community around giving girls what they want. Exposure, networking, friendship, money, fame. Whatever their reason if they choose to participate.

Yes SG is #1, I don't even know who is #2 maybe GG? All I care is that we do a good job and have a good community. None of my products have never been #1 and we're still very successful.

My role is CEO and $$ therefore I need someone for this project. If I can't find the person here, then the time isn't right and I focus on our other business units until the time is right. If it never happens I'm fine with that too, but it doesn't hurt to try.

SarahLLO 08-20-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DatingGold (Post 16215253)
I'm not looking for it to be porn, rather more mainstream but yes with nudity. Nudity is king in this genre. You can call it art or you can call if freaky chicks I don't care. Either is great in my book.

We are very good at building communities and I have a good name for the brand. We would want to build a community around giving girls what they want. Exposure, networking, friendship, money, fame. Whatever their reason if they choose to participate.

Yes SG is #1, I don't even know who is #2 maybe GG? All I care is that we do a good job and have a good community. None of my products have never been #1 and we're still very successful.

My role is CEO and $$ therefore I need someone for this project. If I can't find the person here, then the time isn't right and I focus on our other business units until the time is right. If it never happens I'm fine with that too, but it doesn't hurt to try.

What's the domain?

This is just my preferences talking, but I think you should try and spin it as a gamer/geek girl community - lots of guys looking for those types of girls to interact with, and lots of girls in the genre that wouldn't mind joining a community and showing off for said guys.

Read both Twig's and my posts in this thread if you're at all interested in that idea:
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=921986

That niche still needs sorely filled, IMO, more than another alt site trying to be SG or GG.

IllTestYourGirls 08-20-2009 06:25 PM

I see massive holes in the alt/tattoo community niche that Allan could fill and Dating Gold could fill those holes easily.

LexiLexxx 08-20-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16215289)
I see massive holes in the alt/tattoo community niche that Allan could fill and Dating Gold could fill those holes easily.

I agree, funny how the other's got their feeling's hurt!

OUCH
:helpme

RyuLion 08-20-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LexiLexxx (Post 16215304)
I agree, funny how the other's got their feeling's hurt!

OUCH
:helpme

you'll that a lot here on GFY..a lot of people here take everything too serious as if their life depended on it..:helpme

Mutt 08-20-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CheeseHead Nacho Burger (Post 16214194)
What's funny, Mr. Pheer, is that you don't realize just who you're talking to. Not only does annaliese run her own successful program in the niche being discussed, she's the daughter of adult internet royalty and is very tight with other adult internet royalty. When she talks, you should probably shut your mouth and start taking notes.

Alan would do well to make an attempt at speaking with her.

you're not helping her out much here. a lot of us know who her father is and like any kid who goes into daddy's business respect is hard to come by since things got handed to them rather than starting from the bottom.

Abbie 08-20-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16215385)
you're not helping her out much here. a lot of us know who her father is and like any kid who goes into daddy's business respect is hard to come by since things got handed to them rather than starting from the bottom.

I have worked with Annaliese for quite awhile now and I believe she has EARNED every bit of respect she has received. She is truly a very hard-working and brilliant business woman who has paved her own way in this business. She's worked as hard if not harder than several webbies on this forum to get where she has. I don't think its a fair statement at all to insinuate she's only had success due to her father ... Have you worked with her? If you had, then you'd know your statement is completely inaccurate.

Phallus Fondue 08-20-2009 07:18 PM

there is royalty in porn? is it unspoken or something. would not mind knowing if that is not the case and i am assuming one can name drop if one can use the royalty aspect to give credit too another poster or try to use it as protection like it was.

dave90210 08-20-2009 07:22 PM

Why not do a hardcore version of Suicide Girls? I personally think there is more room for growth in the alt hardcore scene.

Libertine 08-20-2009 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SarahLLO (Post 16215273)
What's the domain?

This is just my preferences talking, but I think you should try and spin it as a gamer/geek girl community - lots of guys looking for those types of girls to interact with, and lots of girls in the genre that wouldn't mind joining a community and showing off for said guys.

Read both Twig's and my posts in this thread if you're at all interested in that idea:
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=921986

That niche still needs sorely filled, IMO, more than another alt site trying to be SG or GG.

That's a great idea, for several reasons.

Not only does it fill a mostly uncovered niche, it also provides some serious opportunities for cashing in on merchandise. What many people don't realize is that SG probably makes at least as much money from merch as it does from memberships. With a site aimed at geeks, potential merch income would be even more.

Of course, there would be a few caveats. The geek demographic is rather diverse. You'd have to reach the art geeks (largest group to draw models from), gamers, otaku, trolls... basically, parts of the audiences of avclub, somethingawful, xkcd, pennyarcade, 4chan, deviantart, etc.

The hard part wouldn't be finding models (there are plenty, and they'd mostly look like the less tattooed girls on SG), but creating additional content to engage the audience. Some damn good writers with extensive knowledge of internet culture would be needed.

Still, the idea is much, much better than something similar to SG. In fact, if I wasn't getting out of the industry, I'd be tempted to do it myself.

The Adult Broker 08-21-2009 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 16212469)
YOu should get with Amelia and work out some sort of partnership.

I concur!

Elixir 08-21-2009 01:14 AM

hmmm interesting idea, good luck man

Brujah 08-21-2009 06:23 AM

I really love the Gamer/Geek idea and think that's definitely the right angle rather than Alt/Goth.

ShellyCrash 08-21-2009 06:39 AM

Also something to keep in mind would be to keep it as "home grown" as possible. The alt / indie scene really rejects projects that they feel are corporate. SG tries hard to skate the line but they still suffer backlash like the entire Lithium Picnic thing that went down a few years ago.

I really respect Amelia G and what she's done over the years. I think your best approach would be to find someone already entrenched in some way with the culture and let them be the face of the brand.

Either way- best of luck to you.

DWB 08-21-2009 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AVNChris (Post 16212436)
be prepared for legal......

For what? Acacia have the patent on shooting girls with tattoos and fucked up hair?

alexchechs 08-21-2009 09:36 AM

I can't even really comment on this topic because it's all been said....

but one thing I will say... look at Naughty Fiipside... what a flop that was..

NikKay 08-21-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SarahLLO (Post 16215273)
What's the domain?

This is just my preferences talking, but I think you should try and spin it as a gamer/geek girl community

That niche still needs sorely filled, IMO, more than another alt site trying to be SG or GG.

I lovelovelove this idea.

Anthony 08-21-2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Abbie (Post 16215405)
I have worked with Annaliese for quite awhile now and I believe she has EARNED every bit of respect she has received. She is truly a very hard-working and brilliant business woman who has paved her own way in this business. She's worked as hard if not harder than several webbies on this forum to get where she has. I don't think its a fair statement at all to insinuate she's only had success due to her father ... Have you worked with her? If you had, then you'd know your statement is completely inaccurate.

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Originally Posted by CheeseHead Nacho Burger (Post 16214194)
What's funny, Mr. Pheer, is that you don't realize just who you're talking to. Not only does annaliese run her own successful program in the niche being discussed, she's the daughter of adult internet royalty and is very tight with other adult internet royalty. When she talks, you should probably shut your mouth and start taking notes.

Alan would do well to make an attempt at speaking with her.

She could be the daughter of the Dalai Lama and Mother Theresa, if she comes on here thumbs her nose at everyone like her shit don't stink, then gfy. She's not the only one who's paved their way from nothing, and built something.

This was one of the few business threads started here by the CEO of a Large Program and she shit in it her first post. So forgive me if I don't give a fuck who she is, who she's related too, and what she's done.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-21-2009 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 16218309)
She could be the daughter of the Dalai Lama and Mother Theresa, if she comes on here thumbs her nose at everyone like her shit don't stink, then gfy. She's not the only one who's paved their way from nothing, and built something.

This was one of the few business threads started here by the CEO of a Large Program and she shit in it her first post. So forgive me if I don't give a fuck who she is, who she's related too, and what she's done.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

IllTestYourGirls 08-21-2009 01:15 PM

Sent over an email. :upsidedow

It was just a short intro. Hope to hear back.

SarahLLO 08-21-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16215918)
That's a great idea, for several reasons.

Not only does it fill a mostly uncovered niche, it also provides some serious opportunities for cashing in on merchandise. What many people don't realize is that SG probably makes at least as much money from merch as it does from memberships. With a site aimed at geeks, potential merch income would be even more.

Of course, there would be a few caveats. The geek demographic is rather diverse. You'd have to reach the art geeks (largest group to draw models from), gamers, otaku, trolls... basically, parts of the audiences of avclub, somethingawful, xkcd, pennyarcade, 4chan, deviantart, etc.

The hard part wouldn't be finding models (there are plenty, and they'd mostly look like the less tattooed girls on SG), but creating additional content to engage the audience. Some damn good writers with extensive knowledge of internet culture would be needed.

Still, the idea is much, much better than something similar to SG. In fact, if I wasn't getting out of the industry, I'd be tempted to do it myself.


I'm glad others feel the same way <3

If anyone ever decides to do this (I don't have the funds or connections), I'd totally offer my services as a writer/idea person. I play video games constantly and hang out on 4chan, somethingawful, ncn, x-e, etc etc. I think I'm sort of the target audience for this sort of site, which may be why I push the idea so hard. Hell, I actually know more than a few people who could write and do quality webcomics and programming and the like - the only part I'm clueless about is the model recruitment and the technicalities and legal stuff that go along with producing your own content. Ideas for photoshoots, though, I have those coming out of my ears...

If anyone ever wants to take me up on the whirring gamer idea machine that is my ADD and JRPG fueled brain, my contact info is in my profile ;)

NS_Gorilla 08-21-2009 03:18 PM

mmm suicide girls

ShellyCrash 08-21-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 16218309)
She could be the daughter of the Dalai Lama and Mother Theresa, if she comes on here thumbs her nose at everyone like her shit don't stink, then gfy. She's not the only one who's paved their way from nothing, and built something.

This was one of the few business threads started here by the CEO of a Large Program and she shit in it her first post. So forgive me if I don't give a fuck who she is, who she's related too, and what she's done.

It's got me a little curious though, who's the daddy?? :winkwink:

Imortyl Pussycat 08-21-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 16216808)
I really love the Gamer/Geek idea and think that's definitely the right angle rather than Alt/Goth.

i whole heartedly agree with this angle Allan. be a pioneer and pave the way. you could really bank on this one. too bad libertine is bailin us, sounds like he is one of a few in this thread that could really pull this off with you. best of luck in this venture :)

SarahLLO 08-21-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by imortyl pussycat (Post 16219020)
i whole heartedly agree with this angle allan. Be a pioneer and pave the way. You could really bank on this one. Too bad libertine is bailin us, sounds like he is one of a few in this thread that could really pull this off with you. Best of luck in this venture :)

:( :( :(

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-21-2009 03:40 PM

Geek/Gamer would so totally do me in also. Alt chicks, well.. you can only go so far before it gets boring...

webair 08-21-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DatingGold (Post 16211811)
I got the domain and I got the funds but I don't have the time. Who's got the talent and proof that they can make it happen.

I don't want a programmer or a designer. I want a person that can get it all done and manage the product. Oversee development, design, marketing, partnerships, advertising...

If you don't have experience don't bother.

allan at datinggold.com

All you need is WEBAIR.COM :thumbsup

lazerbunny 08-21-2009 03:54 PM

I make hardcore altporn... just saw this thread, I notice some people think its harder to get alt girls to do real porn, thats not really true.. but some of the sites act like theyre too good for porn or its "yukky" and then there are lazerbunnys that like to get cum all over their hello kitty sunglasses. so , who knows. but whatever, I shoot the stuff, contact me if ya wanna, check out some trailers at the site.

DatingGold 08-21-2009 04:15 PM

I appreciate all the ideas. SOME people shouldn't jump to conclusions on what our plan is or what niche will fail or succeed. Right now our plan is find someone that can do the job.

I'm confident it will be successful if we ever start it.

In regards to Amelia or Amalia or Amanda or whatever her name was, she'd be surprised by some of the people that hit me up. Some very good people with very good credentials. Dont underestimate the lurkers either. Just have to see if they are a fit.

I think she was on the attack cause hit close to home and some people fear competition while others thrive on it.

Everybody have a good weekend!

xenigo 08-21-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 16218309)
She could be the daughter of the Dalai Lama and Mother Theresa, if she comes on here thumbs her nose at everyone like her shit don't stink, then gfy. She's not the only one who's paved their way from nothing, and built something.

This was one of the few business threads started here by the CEO of a Large Program and she shit in it her first post. So forgive me if I don't give a fuck who she is, who she's related too, and what she's done.

Except she definitely didn't pave her way from nothing. She came out of the gate with a hell of a lot of money, funded by someone else.

Her 2257 address is the same as Offworld Media. Hmmm...

Ayla_SquareTurtle 08-21-2009 04:36 PM

Sounds like this could be really cool! Hit me up if you need an experienced project manager!

xenigo 08-21-2009 04:36 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GodsGirls

Interesting read.

She told me a long time ago that GodsGirls had no relation to Offworld Media. :2 cents:

lazerbunny 08-21-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DatingGold (Post 16219213)
some people fear competition while others thrive on it.

Oh SO true. :1orglaugh

Iron Fist 08-21-2009 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 16211863)
you're not going to find that person on GFY.

LOL.... awesome response coming from the owner of God's Girls.... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Brujah 08-22-2009 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SarahLLO (Post 16219056)
:( :( :(

He's looking for the project manager at this time is the way I'm taking it, rather than people like yourself that the project manager would consult with or hire for different aspects. Your posts in this topic have been very interesting as well as Libertines. Whether DatingGold does the gamer/geek angle or not, I bet someone does and they'll have seen your posts. I'd make sure your contact info is available in case they want to reach you! :thumbsup

Fletch XXX 08-22-2009 05:35 AM

Ive done work promoting GG and SG in the past, had quite a few clients come to me to design stuff for that niche too. :)

Some of my punk friends always use me for their galleries and such promoting these sites too.

Personally I love these niches...

Marshal 08-22-2009 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16211823)
Looks like a great opportunity. who is gonna shoot it?

got a friend who's been shooting for suicidegirls...

potter 08-22-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lazerbunny (Post 16219158)
I make hardcore altporn... just saw this thread, I notice some people think its harder to get alt girls to do real porn, thats not really true.. but some of the sites act like theyre too good for porn or its "yukky" and then there are lazerbunnys that like to get cum all over their hello kitty sunglasses. so , who knows. but whatever, I shoot the stuff, contact me if ya wanna, check out some trailers at the site.

I saw that "article" on fleshbot.

http://fleshbot.com/5123449/your-def...-altporn-sites

Leaving out GG and DN, two of the biggest players in the niche. And trying to make LB out to be some big awesome site in comparison to SG & BA.

You're a complete TOOL, and your opinion is worthless. You're looked down upon by every single person in the ALT niche.

Agent 488 08-22-2009 11:10 AM

geeks dont buy porn. bad angle.

Profits of Doom 08-22-2009 11:33 AM

I can't believe that people think it is tough to find goth models, for anything from softcore SG type shoots all the way to hardcore porn shoots. At 35 years old I can still throw on the vinyl pants and the spikes, hit a goth club, and find hot goth models for days. They have always been the absolute easiest to recruit, and they are also a LOT of fun.

Not that my opinion means much, but just find someone who frequents the goth clubs and is in tune with the culture to recruit and you will be surprised how easy it is...

RayBonga 08-22-2009 11:38 AM

buy sg, problem solved

IllTestYourGirls 08-22-2009 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RayBonga (Post 16221900)
buy sg, problem solved

Where is the fun in that? :jester

lazerbunny 08-22-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by potter (Post 16221794)
I saw that "article" on fleshbot.

http://fleshbot.com/5123449/your-def...-altporn-sites

Leaving out GG and DN, two of the biggest players in the niche. And trying to make LB out to be some big awesome site in comparison to SG & BA.

You're a complete TOOL, and your opinion is worthless. You're looked down upon by every single person in the ALT niche.

I'm not here to argue with assholes. The point is, I make Hardcore AltPorn. DN nor GG nor SG do that. end point. That's it, I don't care to be involved in peoples bullshit drama. I am a completely independently owned and operated company that says it all. To be perfectly honest every single person that "looks down" on me from any 'niche' can suck a bag of dicks. Troll. I read the article too :) its pretty neat. Link more articles about me please. The point is, I can link you to alot of awesome altporn I've produced without my parents money or some huge corporation funding it. Have a nice day!


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