Originally Posted by [db] (Post 16340023)

Update: Self made millionaires who like to brag on message boards also often complain that $4000 is too much for a computer so they have to return it.

Originally Posted by [db] (Post 16340058)

Don't worry, you will certainly "save" yourself and come out looking like the "industry player" that you are.

Luckily for you, 9,500 more posts and your sig will be worth $50/year.

Don't try to scam anyone though, we'll be watching. Most liars like yourself try to scam, others are just creepy loners with no friends. Just don't post any pictures of your Ferrari, please. Been there.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16339620)

Jesus enough with the " If you do graphics or video, or music you have to have a mac" I've heard that shit since I started doing audio recording back in 99. Have to get pro tools, have to use a mac. Bullshit bullshit bullshit.. Jesus fuckin Christ. Friggin brainwashed sheep. As said above give me an equal budget to whatever mac you buy and I can build a pc that is faster and more stable. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Mr. E (Post 16339773)

Go to a file sharing site to download a movie, some music or porn and tell me how long it takes before you get a virus or tons of spyware on your PC. I give you about 2 weeks. I have been downloading files for over 2 years virus free....

Good luck doing that on your PC :error

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16340136)

Fact: go into any real recording studio in Los Angeles and you better know your way around a mac or you are not getting the engineering job.

Sure you can sit at home and think you are making the greatest concept album of all time with your acoustic guitar a mic and some free multitrack software, on your pc, but professional audio recording studios use macs and pro tools, period. Been in enough LA studios to shoot this crap down. Ive also sat in on prolly a hundred recording sessions in some of the top studios in LA from Rumbo Recorders to where tool records at Larrabee studios (i lived a block from them in the Valley) and where Slayer recorded at Track Record!

You are confusing pro audio with consumer computer use, big difference. Apples and oranges. No pun intended.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16340190)

Thanks for telling me about recording studios since I am in one every week or so here in one of the biggest cities for music recording in the country and know 5 of the top producers in town, and have been at the biggest studios in town. Ill take your advice under advisement though. If you want to talk about non country music I talk quite a bit to this guy that was sort of involved in Stone Temple pilots, and some Velvet revolver group that signed one of my good friends to his label.. but again Im sure since you lived in L.A. at some point and sat in on some sessions you know all about it. Ill be glad to pass your advice along. Yes a lot of them use macs, but pro tools is for both mac and pc these days. I also do a lot of recording out of my studio here for other songwriters, but now I am worried if they know my computer isn't a mac they will stop wanting me to record their demo cds.... I better run out and buy a mac and get a lifetime pass to starbucks...... People care about the final product. The last 2 starwars movie soundtracks were done on GASP a PC using Steinberg Nuendo. Which is what I used for years. I just recently switched to Propellerhead Reason Record as I was on the beta testing team and I am unlikely to use anything else for a long time. And I use it on a GASP pc. lol

BAH mac sheep bah.... :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16340198)

You arent a professional recording engineer though, you sit at home and think you are, big difference. I am only speaking from my own experience as an intern of some top producers. I interned under marc Bingham at Boiler Room Studios (he did REM albums)

Wasnt trying to compare cock sizes just stating the facts about the studios I have spent a lot of time in and have friends who engineer there.

Blah blah blah, as I said, go to LA and try to get an engineer job at a studio and tell them you do not know mac and have no experience with them and are actually "anti mac" LOL see how much they laugh at you... LOL

the only thing matters is yellow...

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16340251)

I wrote out a big post to you, but you know what its not worth it. lol Are you still in L.A. recording? Thats what I thought. Im in Nashville recording every week. In my studio, and at some of the biggest and oldest most famous studios in Nashville. But you have to have a mac I guess I better quit recording and writing.. sigh.. lolz.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16340251)

I wrote out a big post to you, but you know what its not worth it. lol Are you still in L.A. recording? Thats what I thought. Im in Nashville recording every week. In my studio, and at some of the biggest and oldest most famous studios in Nashville. But you have to have a mac I guess I better quit recording and writing.. sigh.. lolz.

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16340315)

For most of us, the average PC is 'more' than we need. For my family, it's more than they need.

Even myself, I have a big PC, but it's more because I can have it, rather than a need.

I can build twice the Win PC power for the price of a Mac. From a desktop to laptops, I hand build them for easily half the cost. Allowing me to bump the video, monitors, and other fun stuff.

But.. if I want to edit Video, I'm sorry...I gota go with Mac. It kills a Windows so bad, it's so simple, fast, it does everything and it comes with the Machine.
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Originally Posted by ktj4l (Post 16337647)

My wife loves her Mac. I'm pretty sure you have to be the proud owner of a vagina to like them.

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16340315)

For most of us, the average PC is 'more' than we need. For my family, it's more than they need.

Even myself, I have a big PC, but it's more because I can have it, rather than a need.

I can build twice the Win PC power for the price of a Mac. From a desktop to laptops, I hand build them for easily half the cost. Allowing me to bump the video, monitors, and other fun stuff.

But.. if I want to edit Video, I'm sorry...I gota go with Mac. It kills a Windows so bad, it's so simple, fast, it does everything and it comes with the Machine.

I love my PC's but Kristins Mac owns the Video creating ability and my PC absolutely dominates her Mac in all around speed

So, get the Puter you need, and not based on hype. If you're going to creating nice video/audio, go with a Mac. It's a 'good skill' to have too. If not, save the money and go with a PC.


Simple, smart, business choice.. that's all that is required.

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16340312)

So I looked up some big studios in Nashville, like where Elvis recorded LOL

http://www.houseofdavidstudio.com/gear.html

Mac Pro quad-core 2.6 Ghz Intel Xeon w/5 gigs of RAM running ProTools 7.3.1

http://www.oceanwaystudios.com/studios.html

ProTools HD 3 System with w/ 40 ins/ 48 outs with a Mac Pro with dual

What you do in your bedroom has NOTHING to do with what pros use in studios ;)

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16341042)

I edit HD video all day long on a gasp PC. I dunno man never had any issues editing video, recording audio multi track etc, working in photoshop. Ill stick with PC myself.

Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 16341496)

Mac isn't processing the video its the video card, hard drive, processor, & RAM that do this the software is just a controller for them LOL! Whether windows or mac tells it what to do it still does the same thing and creates the same file as you tell it to.

Just because you like the way the OS feels doesn't mean it make the hardware run any faster that it is capable of. If you are trying to run software without using the right hardware on a PC then you are asking for trouble. Mac doesn't use cheap hardware so you can be ignorant about hardware and it will usually work with everything.

I like to configure my hardware setup myself and I know I have the best components for the job for my budget. The OS is nothing but a GUI (graphical user interface)

Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 16341515)

If I wanted to spend 3k on a machine I would just build 2 PCs since its the same cost and not only do I have 2 machines that are equal in hardware speed but I can render on both machines allowing me to run circles around the guys that spent the same for one MAC

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16341540)

Umm... the software is very different.. It has nothing to do with a GUI. If it was a GUI change, we would see a lot more crossed over software.


You know like 10,000+ processional and amateur video/audio studios, used a PC, went to Mac and never came back. For many reasons.


Personally, I don't like OSX, so it isn't a 'feels good' thing to me. It's a professional studio in a tiny box with better quality, speed, less problems, less upgrades, less hardware configure, and less overall issues.

I bet you $1000 I can setup a Mac for Video faster than you can a PC. I just need to open the box and plug it in, how about you?


My PC is easily twice the speed as K's Mac. But she can load, process, convert, clean up, give effects, adjust audio, merge clips/movies, etc... at least twice the speed as my PC. Heck, I can't even do half the crap she can without loading up some plugin, or some other software.



I can actually SEE the Color quality difference between the Youtube videos (and designs) done on a Mac vs PC.


And that's the thing, you NEED two PC's... so while you mange two PC's, I'm letting one mac do twice the work while I chill in the pool.

Originally Posted by potter (Post 16339755)

This I will never understand. If you know computer hardware you know the stuff Apple uses is really high end stuff.

.....So sure, we both get the same amount of money.

- You go buy the econosucksballsbrand mother board for $79.99.
- You go buy the low end Intel Quad Core for $380.

- I buy the top of the line Intel Server mother board for $599.99.
- I buy the high end Xenon Quad Core for $980.

Now, you come back saying you built a 3.0Ghz quad core Intel machine for only $460.
I come back and say I built a 3.0Ghz quad core Intel machine for $1,580.

You try to claim you built the same machine for a third of the price. Which is laughable, like all these debates. There is no price difference between a mac and a pc. A mac is built on pc hardware so there's really no debate at all. When people TRY to debate it, they debate by comparing utter piece of shit computers (like cheap model dells) to quality computers (like top model macs).

Anyone who builds their own computers and actually understands hardware components knows this.

Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 16341515)

If I wanted to spend 3k on a machine I would just build 2 PCs since its the same cost and not only do I have 2 machines that are equal in hardware speed but I can render on both machines allowing me to run circles around the guys that spent the same for one MAC

Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16340126)

No Ferraris for me, I ride my bikes everywhere I go. If I don't ride my bikes I ride in my truck. If I sell all my vehicles I could get a decent Ferrari but then how much fun would that be having to drive slow over the fucked up LA roads so I do not bottom out?

Here are 80 ounces of gold bars/Eagles/Krugerands, 9.5k in travelers checks, on top of a macbook pro on top of one of my babies. I was going to include my left nut on top of all of this but could not get the shot. LOL!
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSC00189-1.jpg

Here is one of my other babies. My girlfriends ass looks hot on the back of this. She is the kind of girl you could only dream of LOSER. I would post some of her modeling pics but you would laugh and say I was lying so not even going to bother.
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/a...5/DSC00191.jpg

Originally Posted by NOTR (Post 16341665)

Sweet bikes.. Sell the gold, crazy high lately.

Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16341869)

Thanks, I have 4 bikes now. My GF rides the Honda.

Now way am I selling my gold now, in fact I just bought those 80 ounces to add to my position. Monday morning I take that to the safe deposit box at the bank where my hoard of precious metals currently resides. So any robbers better act quick and raid my house tonight. Of course I have not shown you guys pics of my gun collection yet :1orglaugh Don't want to freak you guys out too much.

Gold is going MUCH MUCH higher. Just wait for the next crisis you will see what I am talking about. :thumbsup

BTW, the dollar is going to really be in the shitter within 12 months. Be like George Soros and GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE US DOLLAR NOW.

Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16337610)

when I returned my new mack book pro 2 weeks after buying it. You have 2 weeks to return the product. They tried to charge me a restocking fee but after making a huge scene in front of a crowd of other customers they decided to just give me a full refund.

Seriously, Mac is the biggest fucking rip off ever. It does have some advantages like less likely to get viruses. But you are paying double for a basically a computer that looks more stylish and is easier to use.

The reason I bought one was so I would know more about AAPL products. Now I know why I shorted AAPL stock on Friday. :321GFY

complaints:
1. Cannot open up multiple windows of same thing. I have several gmail accounts and like to have them all open sometimes. On a shitty Mac I have to close out of one gmail account before I open another.

2. So much cool software does not have a version for the mac

3. ICQ work like shit when I downloaded it.

4. Double the fucking cost of a comparable windows machine :1orglaugh

5. The track pad is fucking dumb as shit. I know the proper finger sweeps in order to increase text but the hunk of shit I was sold increased the text size on the screen over and over even when I was just moving the cursor around. I was not in any way making the finger/thumb motion that is saved for changing text size . This was SO FUCKING ANOYING as every 15 minutes the god damed text would all of a sudden get really big for no freaking reason.

6. Ever notice the "Mac geniuses" that work at the store have absolutely no Mac product knowledge?

7. Some software I needed cost double than comparable software for a PC (different company made the software but had similar features)

8. Did I mention they cost fucking double????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9. The Mac mighty mouse is fucking garbage.

10. I hate the cult-like attitude that Mac people have. You can tell a person who uses a Dell that you don't like the company and they will not really give a shit. People who use PCs have better things to do with their time than worship their overpriced dumbed down trendy computer.

11. Often when I try to click out of a screen I have to click like 5 times to get the thing to close. I have the point of the cursor directly over the red circle when I do this. WTF?????????

Originally Posted by area51 (Post 16337613)

All of the things you mentioned are because you're retarded, they have nothing to do with a mac.

Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16337616)

Costing double has nothing to do with a mac? Ok you are brilliant. Try using Google to learn the truth.

Originally Posted by area51 (Post 16337620)

They don't cost double fucking moron. Show me some links of comparable notebook pc's that are much cheaper and I'll show you why you're retarded.

Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16337626)

I never was a Mac fan UNTIL I discovered Final Cut Studio. FCS kept me around long enough to work through the quirks and now that Adobe came back to Mac, I can do everything I need from planning to shooting/capture to editing to output. No complaints from me but the new iMac refresh is coming up to compete with lower end pc desktops.

Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16337652)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 16337656)

Also a Logitech wireless mouse works great and costs 30 bucks.



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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 16337779)

Yea he did. If you are living one breath from poverty, perhaps the Mac would not be a good investment for you. If you are not smart enough to do even the most basic research before switching operating systems, perhaps switching to Mac would not be a good idea at this time. If you can't figure out how to work a computer that any 12 year old little girl can figure out, well..... good luck.

People here have said that Mac's are for retards....and even Joe King can't figure out how to use one :1orglaugh

Joe, so you returned your Macbook, what did you replace it with? Just curious....

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 16337780)

Ohh joe joe joe
Im a PC guy so dont go throwing the cult attitude after me either lol
Macs are 2-4 times more powerful then pc's

Ripping thru video like nothing else.....that is just one example

Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 16337791)

I know....my post wasn't directed towards you. I just reread it and it sounded like it was...sorry :Oh crap

Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 16337813)

For those who are thinking of switching to the Mac, take some time and do some research first. Find out what software you'll need in order to keep your business running smoothly during the transition and price it out. Remember, Google is your friend with any issues that you may have.

Also, pick up a book (and read it) to familiarize yourself with the Mac OS system. This is a good one:

http://www.deancapture.com/switching.jpg

The Mac is a great system but don't expect it to run like your PC. There is a learning curve involved and depending on how much time you put in to it, it could take from a few days to a few weeks to feel comfy....even longer for some folks.

There are a lot of Mac users here at GFY and they'd love to help you make the switch/adjustment. All you have to do is ask if you have an issue.

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 16337829)

Thanks. I don't have time to type that today.

Mac is the best thing to happen to computing, period.
:thumbsup:thumbsup

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 16337868)

I bought a MacBook Air in December and gave it to my girl for Christmas. She loves it and says she will never go back to a PC. I've played with her Mac a bit but have been hesitant on switching over my own stuff.

I fucked up my Sony laptop about a week and a half ago. Lucky for me, I had purchased Best Buy's extended protection and when I brought the Sony in to the store, they took a look at it then gave me a full 2k+ credit to pick out a new computer with. The only thing they had on hand in that price range was a 15" MacBook Pro.

I've had the MacBook for 10 days now and I can honestly tell you it is BY FAR the best laptop I have ever owned. I LOVE the new trackpad and how easy everything is.

If you do not like Mac it is most likely do to one of two things:

1: The learning curve.

2: Ignorance.

I'm not trying to talk shit as those are the very reasons that have kept me away from Macs.

Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 16337878)

Don't know how to even respond... kind of speaks for itself.

Originally Posted by bbwebmaster (Post 16337883)

It's for fags indeed who afraid of viruses and tech problem that they might meet using real computers PCs.

Originally Posted by bbwebmaster (Post 16337907)

Lol no worries, I will take no offence, I am not an ignorant :thumbsup

Originally Posted by bbwebmaster (Post 16337926)

I was joking a bit man! Don't treat me that serious. I've got no problem with that someone may actually like macs... they have got quality hardware but I just can't stand os that's only my personal feeling... that's all. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by area51 (Post 16341895)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Stop trying to save face in this thread, you don't know shit about computers :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16341905)

What does that post have to do with computers douchebag? And did you read the fucking thread?
I admitted to trolling.

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16341062)

Your 6k studio is about 50k less than the "basic low end" professional studios. My partner is up to about 40k in equipment and it doesn't touch the pro studios in NY.