Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16337610)

when I returned my new mack book pro 2 weeks after buying it. You have 2 weeks to return the product. They tried to charge me a restocking fee but after making a huge scene in front of a crowd of other customers they decided to just give me a full refund.

Seriously, Mac is the biggest fucking rip off ever. It does have some advantages like less likely to get viruses. But you are paying double for a basically a computer that looks more stylish and is easier to use.

The reason I bought one was so I would know more about AAPL products. Now I know why I shorted AAPL stock on Friday. :321GFY

complaints:
1. Cannot open up multiple windows of same thing. I have several gmail accounts and like to have them all open sometimes. On a shitty Mac I have to close out of one gmail account before I open another.

2. So much cool software does not have a version for the mac

3. ICQ work like shit when I downloaded it.

4. Double the fucking cost of a comparable windows machine :1orglaugh

5. The track pad is fucking dumb as shit. I know the proper finger sweeps in order to increase text but the hunk of shit I was sold increased the text size on the screen over and over even when I was just moving the cursor around. I was not in any way making the finger/thumb motion that is saved for changing text size . This was SO FUCKING ANOYING as every 15 minutes the god damed text would all of a sudden get really big for no freaking reason.

6. Ever notice the "Mac geniuses" that work at the store have absolutely no Mac product knowledge?

7. Some software I needed cost double than comparable software for a PC (different company made the software but had similar features)

8. Did I mention they cost fucking double????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9. The Mac mighty mouse is fucking garbage.

10. I hate the cult-like attitude that Mac people have. You can tell a person who uses a Dell that you don't like the company and they will not really give a shit. People who use PCs have better things to do with their time than worship their overpriced dumbed down trendy computer.

11. Often when I try to click out of a screen I have to click like 5 times to get the thing to close. I have the point of the cursor directly over the red circle when I do this. WTF?????????

Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 16339624)

...Your a fucking idiot, why are you here surfer?

Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 16339624)

...Your a fucking idiot, why are you here surfer?

Originally Posted by [db] (Post 16339722)

Very astute observation. Almost no question that this Joe King character is not in the industry.

Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16339711)

My online profits were in the millions by 2004 and then I retired for a few years and just managed my investments. Ok I guess I am a surfer now. But I am building 2 sites now so soon I won't be a lowly surfer after that.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16339726)

OMG so now if you don't use a fucking overpriced mac you can't be in the industry? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

OMG thank you for the late night belly laugh. lolz

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16339620)

As said above give me an equal budget to whatever mac you buy and I can build a pc that is faster and more stable.

Originally Posted by potter (Post 16339755)

This I will never understand. If you know computer hardware you know the stuff Apple uses is really high end stuff.

.....So sure, we both get the same amount of money.

- You go buy the econosucksballsbrand mother board for $79.99.
- You go buy the low end Intel Quad Core for $380.

- I buy the top of the line Intel Server mother board for $599.99.
- I buy the high end Xenon Quad Core for $980.

Now, you come back saying you built a 3.0Ghz quad core Intel machine for only $460.
I come back and say I built a 3.0Ghz quad core Intel machine for $1,580.

You try to claim you built the same machine for a third of the price. Which is laughable, like all these debates. There is no price difference between a mac and a pc. A mac is built on pc hardware so there's really no debate at all. When people TRY to debate it, they debate by comparing utter piece of shit computers (like cheap model dells) to quality computers (like top model macs).

Anyone who builds their own computers and actually understands hardware components knows this.

Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 16339075)

who is the fucktard that said a mac is 2-4 times more powerful than a pc..

how about we both get $5,000 to build computers.. I build a PC, you build a MAc

Lets see whos computer wins in benchmarks..

The truth is Macs are more expensive.. Dont know why you guys are arguing it...

If you know how to build a PC, you could build a stable windows pc for a shit load less, and its more customizable too...

I can swap memory in and out, change video cards, motherboards, add new pci cards, etc...

Good luck doing that with your mac :error

Originally Posted by Mr. E (Post 16339765)

Oh and ICQ? Are you serious?

Originally Posted by [db] (Post 16339795)

He tried for two hours to log into his BBS using his 14.4k modem, but it was busy.

Originally Posted by [db] (Post 16339722)

Very astute observation. Almost no question that this Joe King character is not in the industry.

Originally Posted by [db] (Post 16340023)

Update: Self made millionaires who like to brag on message boards also often complain that $4000 is too much for a computer so they have to return it.

Originally Posted by [db] (Post 16340023)

Update: Self made millionaires who like to brag on message boards also often complain that $4000 is too much for a computer so they have to return it.

Originally Posted by [db] (Post 16340058)

Don't worry, you will certainly "save" yourself and come out looking like the "industry player" that you are.

Luckily for you, 9,500 more posts and your sig will be worth $50/year.

Don't try to scam anyone though, we'll be watching. Most liars like yourself try to scam, others are just creepy loners with no friends. Just don't post any pictures of your Ferrari, please. Been there.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16339620)

Jesus enough with the " If you do graphics or video, or music you have to have a mac" I've heard that shit since I started doing audio recording back in 99. Have to get pro tools, have to use a mac. Bullshit bullshit bullshit.. Jesus fuckin Christ. Friggin brainwashed sheep. As said above give me an equal budget to whatever mac you buy and I can build a pc that is faster and more stable. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Mr. E (Post 16339773)

Go to a file sharing site to download a movie, some music or porn and tell me how long it takes before you get a virus or tons of spyware on your PC. I give you about 2 weeks. I have been downloading files for over 2 years virus free....

Good luck doing that on your PC :error

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16340136)

Fact: go into any real recording studio in Los Angeles and you better know your way around a mac or you are not getting the engineering job.

Sure you can sit at home and think you are making the greatest concept album of all time with your acoustic guitar a mic and some free multitrack software, on your pc, but professional audio recording studios use macs and pro tools, period. Been in enough LA studios to shoot this crap down. Ive also sat in on prolly a hundred recording sessions in some of the top studios in LA from Rumbo Recorders to where tool records at Larrabee studios (i lived a block from them in the Valley) and where Slayer recorded at Track Record!

You are confusing pro audio with consumer computer use, big difference. Apples and oranges. No pun intended.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16340190)

Thanks for telling me about recording studios since I am in one every week or so here in one of the biggest cities for music recording in the country and know 5 of the top producers in town, and have been at the biggest studios in town. Ill take your advice under advisement though. If you want to talk about non country music I talk quite a bit to this guy that was sort of involved in Stone Temple pilots, and some Velvet revolver group that signed one of my good friends to his label.. but again Im sure since you lived in L.A. at some point and sat in on some sessions you know all about it. Ill be glad to pass your advice along. Yes a lot of them use macs, but pro tools is for both mac and pc these days. I also do a lot of recording out of my studio here for other songwriters, but now I am worried if they know my computer isn't a mac they will stop wanting me to record their demo cds.... I better run out and buy a mac and get a lifetime pass to starbucks...... People care about the final product. The last 2 starwars movie soundtracks were done on GASP a PC using Steinberg Nuendo. Which is what I used for years. I just recently switched to Propellerhead Reason Record as I was on the beta testing team and I am unlikely to use anything else for a long time. And I use it on a GASP pc. lol

BAH mac sheep bah.... :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16340198)

You arent a professional recording engineer though, you sit at home and think you are, big difference. I am only speaking from my own experience as an intern of some top producers. I interned under marc Bingham at Boiler Room Studios (he did REM albums)

Wasnt trying to compare cock sizes just stating the facts about the studios I have spent a lot of time in and have friends who engineer there.

Blah blah blah, as I said, go to LA and try to get an engineer job at a studio and tell them you do not know mac and have no experience with them and are actually "anti mac" LOL see how much they laugh at you... LOL

the only thing matters is yellow...

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16340251)

I wrote out a big post to you, but you know what its not worth it. lol Are you still in L.A. recording? Thats what I thought. Im in Nashville recording every week. In my studio, and at some of the biggest and oldest most famous studios in Nashville. But you have to have a mac I guess I better quit recording and writing.. sigh.. lolz.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16340251)

I wrote out a big post to you, but you know what its not worth it. lol Are you still in L.A. recording? Thats what I thought. Im in Nashville recording every week. In my studio, and at some of the biggest and oldest most famous studios in Nashville. But you have to have a mac I guess I better quit recording and writing.. sigh.. lolz.

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16340315)

For most of us, the average PC is 'more' than we need. For my family, it's more than they need.

Even myself, I have a big PC, but it's more because I can have it, rather than a need.

I can build twice the Win PC power for the price of a Mac. From a desktop to laptops, I hand build them for easily half the cost. Allowing me to bump the video, monitors, and other fun stuff.

But.. if I want to edit Video, I'm sorry...I gota go with Mac. It kills a Windows so bad, it's so simple, fast, it does everything and it comes with the Machine.
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Originally Posted by ktj4l (Post 16337647)

My wife loves her Mac. I'm pretty sure you have to be the proud owner of a vagina to like them.

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16340315)

For most of us, the average PC is 'more' than we need. For my family, it's more than they need.

Even myself, I have a big PC, but it's more because I can have it, rather than a need.

I can build twice the Win PC power for the price of a Mac. From a desktop to laptops, I hand build them for easily half the cost. Allowing me to bump the video, monitors, and other fun stuff.

But.. if I want to edit Video, I'm sorry...I gota go with Mac. It kills a Windows so bad, it's so simple, fast, it does everything and it comes with the Machine.

I love my PC's but Kristins Mac owns the Video creating ability and my PC absolutely dominates her Mac in all around speed

So, get the Puter you need, and not based on hype. If you're going to creating nice video/audio, go with a Mac. It's a 'good skill' to have too. If not, save the money and go with a PC.


Simple, smart, business choice.. that's all that is required.