Okay, I have seen the videos in question...

Lexa Lords, Naughty Nikki and Mistress Twilight all play greedy Oil Barons who were illegally elected to power. They abuse their oil industry connections and are trying to rape and pillage their way to a long forgotten Mainfest Destiny.

damn.... :(

sweetpartners was one of the first (and my favourite) sponsors I ever signed up to... used to do well out of sweetloads.com, but haven't made shit from it since the beginning of this year..It used to recur like crazy

I used to wonder how the hell they got away with some of the stuff they promoted on sites like buttcam, fistingfun, bottlebabes, fistinglessons, peelovers, sadoslaves etc... especially since other sponsors seemed to be dropping similar sites to keep out of legal shit

I'm just glad as fuck I never got involved with them... but it's just very weird that this was the first woman to come out to say some shit like this after all this time.

Could this have been the FIRST time they've done this? I wouldn't think so.

The fact that there were no complaints before could also mean that they have never done anything to a model that she has not agreed to beforehand, and that this girl just wants to get rich off of a lawsuit.

This isn't going to hurt people who are making run of the mill hardcore porn in Vancouver, or any part of Canada. It's just that Vancouver isn't a good place to shoot BDSM/humilliation stuff.



Sorry you're never allowed to use the phrase "believe me" on this board again. Come on, think. And if you say that board has underage pics, what the fuck are you doing posting a link to it here?



Because they don't have the name in the USA. Of coarse if Brad didn't have fat pockets to pay for legal fees, he probably would have lost it.

It will be interesting I am sure to see what specifically is obscene in those videos.

Degrading, as you mentioned Brent, is a very subjective thing and it will be interesting if they bring that into the context of the case.

Whatever the actual case is, this effects us all in some way!

I am glad I am not Canadian today...:Graucho

I am told the Sweet's were pissing off some people in Vancouver, and I know that they were doing stuff that certainly invited problems, but I seriously doubt that they would rape and torture a model against her consent.

From what I saw of their operation, and remember we go way back with the Sweets since we were the company that originally created one of their signature products, "Sweet Loads". they were very professional and up front with models about what to expect during a shoot. Most of their models "graduated" to the harder stuff once they felt comfortable with the producers. They did not walk in off the street and immediately get tied up and sodomized or anything like that.

I am sure many will jump to conclusions and try to pontificate about their superiority of ethics but vilifying the Sweets is not serving any purpose. Sure, they pushed the boundries and now they are going to have to pay, but don't forget for one second that almost everyone in the porn biz is pushing boundries... remember... they still kill pornographers in places like Singapore, Iran, etc.

On another note, Tom Sweet for a long time has been gone from the opeation.

If you're a model that has had any contact with the Sweets you know that this is not bullshit- or the first time. The last time I had an email exchange with Steve Sweet about his little problem he was none too subtle about CCing his lawyer and that's not a fight I'm looking for so more then that I can't say.

Why? Do you produce rape, torture, or scat videos?

someone should send em' a video camera so they can take some gay footage of thier next site: JailBaitTank.com

Make the best with you've got! :thumbsup

JailBaitBus.com?

Shouldn?t 2 consenting adults be able to do whatever they want to?

Get real guys, Sweet follows the law to the letter. They have their own full-time legal time?

Looks more like a couple of cops fighting for 15 minutes of fame and some girl who wants to make some money along the way.

I'm calling Hooper right now!

i doubt anything seroius is coming out of this
those sweetboys are posting like nothings gonig on over there by hahahahahahaha

Validus...aren't you a "Sweet " ?

According to the media...she didn't consent.

Hilarious shit....

Almost ALL of the original "sweet" left. "Steve" and "thedirtyoldman" are left. Out of all the partners, only one had a name that was close to their real name. Everyone else you met, well, they weren't sweet. None of them are. No brothers, no family in the co other that "thor sweet" and "jamie sweet"

As for Tom...Himself and Rey and a few of the other intelligent employees got wise and got out. Out of all the 30+ employees that have been involved with sweet, only "Steve", "Jamie", Giselle and Mike(dirtyoldman) remain. All the other employees took off.

Try and click on the "Photo Album" link on
http://www.sweetentertainment.com

No link = NO CREW!!

Police allege the porn companies went beyond the legal limits in some of the porn produced. They say the material crossed the line, degrading and victimizing women.

that's what the police are saying....

innocent til proven guilty remains true.... the crown must prove a number of issues not least Charter issues etc before the core issues of the case can even be addressed.

Canadian law in this area is really very unclear

hell, there was the recent Sharpe decision where the guy got off cuz his drawings of children had 'artistic merit'

...this case could easily go to the supreme court.

I agree archer.

But I would be concerned if I were gonna have to be the test case.

Kiko Wu: We treat models exceedingly well and let them decide exactly what they will or will not do. Still, some come back, in one case 12 years after the fact, and try to incriminate us with allegations of coercion.

Max Hardcore, one of the most vile producers out there, an inspiration to rapists and child molestors the world over, and a person whose content I personally abhor, recently won when a model accused him of rape and torture... Problem was it was like her sixth time coming over to shoot exactly the same stuff she had done before.

I would be very surprised if you have not had models turn on you in a similar fashion and I highly doubt that you have raped and tortured any of your models... well, except the ones that refused to be fucked by Waldo.... :Graucho

I am not saying that the Sweets were not asking for trouble. Nor am I saying that they are saints. However, I do say that everyone should wait to get the facts before jumping to any conclusions.

FarL, this isn't hearsay- this is me. I'm saying it. I have a company and a reputation and no stake in hurting or helping SEG. But I am saying- first hand, that there was a serous problem. So show me the respect of not lumping me in with petulant models.

Now I'm going to shut my mouth before I get a letter from SEGs lawer...

No, rape stuff crosses the line.


No the do not, obviously.


No it was a full scale investigation, everyone knew about it including SEG. I seriously doubt the girl was rapped, so you're probably right about the girl.

I'm almost certain they will KK. my lawyers told me to remove the word DEGRADE off all my tours awhile back.

Wow... This is big news... Well we know what happens once computers get confiscated by the feds... kiss those machines goodbye.

I like the "shoveling water" description LOL... :thumbsup

After reading the Criminal Code, Anal on tape seems to be Illegal in Canada.


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159. (1) Every person who engages in an act of anal intercourse is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

Exception
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to any act engaged in, in private, between

(a) husband and wife, or

(b) any two persons, each of whom is eighteen years of age or more,

both of whom consent to the act.

Idem
(3) For the purposes of subsection (2),

(a) an act shall be deemed not to have been engaged in in private if it is engaged in in a public place or if more than two persons take part or are present; and

(b) a person shall be deemed not to consent to an act

(i) if the consent is extorted by force, threats or fear of bodily harm or is obtained by false and fraudulent misrepresentations respecting the nature and quality of the act, or

(ii) if the court is satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that the person could not have consented to the act by reason of mental disability.

Damn, you must be fucking tired.

Kiko Wu: Please read my post again. I am not referring to you as a model. I am clearly respecting you as a producer and speculating that as a producer you must have had your share of models that have regrets about making porn and try to make it your fault by holding you responsible for "making" them do what they really would not have done otherwise...

If you heard what you did about the Sweets from a disgruntled model, then that is hearsay.

If you worked for or with the Sweets and they tried to take advangtage of you personally, then that is first hand information.

I have both first hand information, having personally been at the Sweet's studio and worked with them briefly, and heard hearsay from models and producers that have associated with the Sweets.

Models should never leave a set unhappy for any reason, regardless.

Where on earth do you get the impression that i am trying to belittle you? Besides the fact that I do not disrespect models just because they are models, and I am very well aware of your success as producer and business owner, I am very alarmed by your reading of my earlier post.

Reading makes you tired?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

No,

Except Porn Magazines. :Graucho

the girlfriend cheating vultures swoop in to add lambasting to the competition..... like clockwork....

|ncogn|to: No Crew? Well I guess you don?t know Sweet very well!


Sweet Stands Strong!

Right SpinDoctor Validus...

I can assure you that, the VAST majority of the sweet have left the company in the last 2 years...Do you want me to start naming names?????

I know more than you will ever know little man...


Spin away dood..Spin away

I am sure you know a lot more about Sweet then myself... I am just a newbie... but... I know they stiff have a very tight group.

Right..What's left of them.


Anyway..Don''t you have better tings to do? Like

Look for more stable employment?

I am somewhat familiar with the operation at sweet (not an insider or anything, but have been to their offices a few times)

This does not come as a huge suprise to me considering the amount of percieved violence in their content, something that alot of people here have mentioned

Well... no way am I reading this whole thread but I gotta say..

Sweet Loads was the original 'Reality' site and I really can't believe they were this stupid with their business.

It's so easy to stay withinthe law and still make money. I read the article but I would really like to hear Steve and Paul's side of this. The article said the evidence was too disgusting to describe but those fuckheads in the media could think a blowjob is disgusting... and as for the girl claiming to be raped... ????

I'd be first in line to cut off some balls if it were true but... that's not enough for me to consider him guilty until the courts do.

Stable employment?

Stable employment?

no fucking shit.

very glad i stayed away.

The thing is the charge will obscenity and if it is held up all the sites with their content on are in trouble.

A minority of girls come forward with a normal rape charge, how many will come forward if it's on video? There was a guy in London drugging girls and fucking them in front of a video camera. All the girls I knew who had it done to them just wanted to forget about it.

Ant connection to why one of the Sweet brothers is in Amsterdam?

This is really bad news for the industry as a whole
gives one more reason to the religious right to go after 'pornographers'