You're a fucking mod. :1orglaugh

Shouldn't you know things that have been posted several times? Time to give up your spot I'd say.

Sig too awesome.

damn, thats real unfortunate!
Theyre just rolling out the swine flu jab in england now, expecting a story or 2 like this!

what an awful video-it's so incredibly sad to watch :(

Wow an E.R. doctor calls the girl a faker and that its all in her head by watching a video interview of the girl. Not only that its on OMG FOX NEWS and if it was a video going against vaccines and was posted on FOX NEWS you would be all saying how it was on FOX NEWS so must be bullshit. lol
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yep, and as we know now, Fox isn't news. ;)

I've always tought hot girls were invincible...

You're such a fucking idiot...

Firstly, nobody calls her a faker. Patients suffering from psychogenic diseases actually have real symptoms which, to them, are indistinguishable from symptoms with a physiological cause. That should be evident from the very existence of psychosomatic diseases, where psychiatric causes have measurable physiological effects.

To give a well-known example: psychological stress has lots of clear effects on the human body. It weakens the immune system, influences levels of certain hormones, etc. And you can trust me when I say that it's damn hard to fake changed hormone levels.

Secondly, you might have noticed that she's talking about discussing the case with people specialized in motion disorders. Here's an example of one, talking about this very case:



Again, he suspects it's a psychogenic motion disorder. How surprising.

But hey, don't let annoying things like reality get in the way of your idiocy. After all, inconvenient things like your IQ being lower than your shoe size and your complete and utter lack of knowledge about anything even remotely related to medicine don't interfere with your ability to just magically feel the truth in your gut, right?

ACTUALLY I did do a search before posting this, I usually do. I did a search for "backwards", "cheerleader", "shot" tried "flu", but it was too short, and NOTHING came up in relation, so go FUCK yourself !!

See if you can search for it and tell me what it'd take to find it. Either you're full of shit, the search function is fucked, or the description in that thread is totally off.

Um. Wow.
:Oh crap

Fiddy.
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Sig.

You can definitely expect more stories like this. Not because the flu shot causes this, but because people believe the flu shot can cause it.

The mind is a powerful thing. Placebos, for example, can cause actual physical improvement in people with an identifiable physical ailment. Acupuncture has positive effects even if you just poke people with toothpicks in random places. Homeopathy has positive effects even if people are really only getting water.

Normal IV fluid will decrease pain in patients if they think they are getting morphine, and patients used to getting morphine will actually have a physical reaction decreasing pain before they even get it.

Sadly, the reverse also holds true. People can develop actual physical symptoms merely through suggestion. Convince a million people that the glass of normal water they just drank contains arsenic and thousands will experience physical symptoms, dozens if not hundreds will develop actual physical symptoms, and a few may well die or sustain permanent disabilities.

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she getting crunk

thats why i dont get flu shots

Soooooooooooooooo wrong!

not sure if that is true...chk out this statement package from the CDC to doctors...it seems to contradict those statements.

http://www2a.cdc.gov/nip/isd/immtool...s/pinkbook.pdf

Nope, it says exactly what I said:

p 5: "Inactivated vaccines are not alive and cannot replicate."

Those are the killed ones I mentioned.

On the other hand, attenuated viruses can cause the disease:

p 5: "Live attenuated vaccines may cause severe or fatal reactions as a
result of uncontrolled replication (growth) of the vaccine virus."

Killed/inactive viral particles cannot cause the disease, but attenuated viral particles can - although it's quite rare, and the disease is typically less severe when it does happen.

Now, in the case of the flu vaccine, both variants are used. Killed virus for the shot, attenuated virus for the nasal spray:

p 5: "Currently available live attenuated viral vaccines include measles,
mumps, rubella, vaccinia, varicella, yellow fever, and influenza
(intranasal)."

p6: "Currently available inactivated vaccines are limited to inactivated
whole viral vaccines (influenza, polio, rabies, and hepatitis A)."

The woman in this story got the shot, which doesn't contain the live virus.

omg :Oh crap:disgust

Thanks my iq is 142. How bout 1 year from now I call you an idiot over and over and over again every time you post after its shown that ONCE AGAIN a bullshit "big scare" was showing to be nothing anyone really had to worry about as usual.


The short term memory of society in general is hysterical. Do you not see the patterns that repeat OVER AND OVER again? Year after year? Its comical.

No way in hell these motherfucker will shoot me with that shit. I'd rather die.

Hmm interesting.. if the idea behind this "vaccine" is to stop the spread why isn't Obama's kids getting it?

http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/...-against-h1n1/

After all shouldn't they take it for the "greater good" ?

So Libertine if you are so smart, and we should all "get in line" and protect all the weaker people, why in the fuck are Obama's kids that are healthy NOT getting the shot? Riddle me that med student of the year. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh damn

The article explains why...it is not available to them...based upon their risk level. There is a shortage of the vaccine. Apparently you did not read the article or you have a very low comprehension level.

What is the "big scare" you keep referring to. There are already more people currently infected with H1N1 then there have been during the peak of the regular flu which past history shows is in January...and this is only October. If there is any "big scare" it is already upon us.

BTW...what IQ test were you given...by whom...where...and what did it cost you?

She didn't get a swine flu shot. Not sure why the OP said that.

poor girl.. but it was a seasonal flu shot not swine flu.. A 25 year old "healthy" girl had no business getting one anyway IMO. People need to stop getting flu shots if they are health and leave them for the sick and elderly.

No you haven't followed these threads I guess. I have been told over and over that EVERYONE should be getting one. Otherwise we put those that are weak at risk. Over and Over and Over and OVER again I've been told that. Its our "duty" to each get a shot to protect the weaker of the herd..... And did YOU read that

"The Centers for Disease Control recommend Children from 6 months through 18 years of age get the vaccine because cases of 2009 H1N1 influenza have been seen in children who are in close contact with each other in school and day care settings, which increases the likelihood of disease spread. "

The CDC recommends it.... http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/acip.htm

We were given iq tests every 2 years from 5th grade till I graduated in school. Didn't cost me a dime. How much did you pay for your new nick? lol

Unless you had some sort of bi polar change its no longer who it used to be posting. lol

Wow................

News...flash...those were not IQ tests that you were given. Most people have not had an IQ test. I have...when I was attending University...and I had to pay for it.

that is a crazy ass condition...

wondering how some kind bud would do? that is a serious question... if spasms occur in a certain direction kind bud could possibly cure the girl...

Your comprehension level is extremely low. I will try again...there is a very real shortage of the vaccine...states are only getting a fraction of what they need and what they are getting is going to the most at risk. I am satisfied that when it becomes available to them the Obama children will have the shot. In the local schools one out of every five students and teachers is out with the H1N1 flu. The H1N1 vaccine is not yet available in this area. Thus far there has not been any reported deaths.

News Flash our school did. I was in the gifted program so suck my balls. Do you think just because whatever school you were at didn't do iq tests that none do? Wow.. lmao

Yes and you CANNOT COMPREHEND that I am referring to what I was told over and over and over again the last few weeks that if everyone or the majority doesn't get the vaccine then we put all the weak ones at risk. We ALL needed to get the shot to protect the weaker. Now shut the fuck up till you catch up. No idea who bought that nick, but I have a few guesses.. lol


And Ill highlight this again as per what particular groups the CDC RECOMMENDS get vaccinated FIRST!!

"The committee recommended the vaccination efforts focus on five key populations. Vaccination efforts are designed to help reduce the impact and spread of novel H1N1. The key populations include those who are at higher risk of disease or complications, those who are likely to come in contact with novel H1N1, and those who could infect young infants. When vaccine is first available, the committee recommended that programs and providers try to vaccinate:

pregnant women,
people who live with or care for children younger than 6 months of age,
health care and emergency medical services personnel,
persons between the ages of 6 months through 24 years of age, and
people from ages 25 through 64 years who are at higher risk for novel H1N1 because of chronic health disorders or compromised immune systems.
The groups listed above total approximately 159 million people in the United States."

http://www.cdc.gov/media/pressrel/2009/r090729b.htm


Now that is what the CDC recommends.... how old are Obama's Daughters?

"Malia is 10 years old
Sasha is 7 years old"

Hmm 6 months to 24 years of age. Yet no shot.

To the best of my knowledge every state has annual or biannual testing of its students and they are not IQ tests...period. For about the third time...the vaccine is not available to the Obama girls...just like it is not available in my area at all for anyone. Just like you could not comprehend what Libertine was saying to you...you cannot understand what I am saying to you. I will guarantee you that you do not have an IQ of 142...and if you ever did...which you would not know from common school testing...drugs or booze has burned your brain cells out. This is the end of my conversation with you about this subject...you are now dismissed.

funny shit :)

It's not a shame in this case, it's a murderous travesty. It's like a vampiric pick pocket distracting their ignorant and uneducated host by vomiting into their gaping mouths.

The saddest thing is that they are receiving a vaccine... by absorbing this kind of tabloid media they are developing an incredible immunity to facts..

You crack me up.

Were you in the gifted program when you were in school? No? I was.

Just to show you what a fucking moron you are arguing with me about IQ testing. I am originally from PA.

"In Pennsylvania, a child with an IQ of 130 or higher must be offered gifted services, but other students can receive gifted services too. Delaware and New Jersey do not mandate gifted services for a specific IQ level."

http://www.metrokids.com/april08/gifted0408.html

I entered the gifted program around grade 5 after a parent teacher conference. I was constantly bored in school and the teacher thought it was cause I didn't want to learn. My parents knew otherwise and pushed for finding out why. I was given an IQ test and I believe in 5th grade scored a 135 or so, it increased some as I got older, and I had a high score of 144, but my average score ended up around 142 out of the last 3 tests I took that were individually issued.. Once you are in the gifted program we usually took a new IQ test every few years.

Now then. Suck my balls dipshit. You never got IQ tested because you weren't thought to be gifted. Sorry..

Another great example of your idiocy.

Nobody is claiming that the swine flu is likely to mutate into something similar to the 1918 flu. There's just a small chance that it happens, but that small chance needs to be taken seriously since if it would happen, it would have huge effects.

It's like putting on your seatbelt when you go for a drive. Will you crash? Probably not. And yet, if you just drive enough, chances are that you will eventually be involved in a crash.

A similar thing is the case with potential pandemics. Most will turn out to be relatively harmless, killing only a few thousand people. But we know for a fact that every once in a while, one turns up that kills millions. That's something countries should prepare for, just like they should prepare for natural disasters, terrorist attacks, environmental disasters, etc.

The "big scares", however, aren't a part of that preparation. Rather, they're asinine media hypes - because the media profit from hypes, as evidenced by the case which started this thread.

One thing to keep in mind, however, is that this year's swine flu has already killed thousands of people - including hundreds of children. In the US alone, a few dozen completely healthy children have been killed by the swine flu. Meanwhile, morons like you pounce on idiotic news stories of cases where a flu vaccine is quite unlikely to be the cause of disease.

Here's a thought: stop being scared, and try to be rational instead? Look at the numbers, realize that personal risks are small either way, and see that of the two small risks, the flu is by far the larger one?