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MrMaxwell 10-23-2009 04:58 AM

IQ tests, they're fun.. I use to live out east, myself.. went to this place called dupont.. EI or AI? Tested on the low one sixties both times .. The only problem is that intelligence can get in the way, when you're human .. I saw every counselor, shrink, head picker, gifted "specialist" and finally said mother FUCK you all and quit when I was 12. Just quit, left. Glad of it, too.

I think that they should try smacking this girl when she goes into that.. No, I am not being a wise guy .. but it's the only thing that I can think of .. But I can imagine her going into the nerve fit, slapping the fuck out of her and her straightening out and being just fine .. instantly
I think it'd have as high as a 5% chance of working and it's all I can think of

stickyfingerz 10-23-2009 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16457552)
Another great example of your idiocy.

Nobody is claiming that the swine flu is likely to mutate into something similar to the 1918 flu. There's just a small chance that it happens, but that small chance needs to be taken seriously since if it would happen, it would have huge effects.

It's like putting on your seatbelt when you go for a drive. Will you crash? Probably not. And yet, if you just drive enough, chances are that you will eventually be involved in a crash.

A similar thing is the case with potential pandemics. Most will turn out to be relatively harmless, killing only a few thousand people. But we know for a fact that every once in a while, one turns up that kills millions. That's something countries should prepare for, just like they should prepare for natural disasters, terrorist attacks, environmental disasters, etc.

The "big scares", however, aren't a part of that preparation. Rather, they're asinine media hypes - because the media profit from hypes, as evidenced by the case which started this thread.

One thing to keep in mind, however, is that this year's swine flu has already killed thousands of people - including hundreds of children. In the US alone, a few dozen completely healthy children have been killed by the swine flu. Meanwhile, morons like you pounce on idiotic news stories of cases where a flu vaccine is quite unlikely to be the cause of disease.

Here's a thought: stop being scared, and try to be rational instead? Look at the numbers, realize that personal risks are small either way, and see that of the two small risks, the flu is by far the larger one?

Its funny that you think I am the one that is scared. lol Im not at ALL scared of the swine flu, therefore not about to risk having an untested vaccine injected into me to "save me"..

And why did you skip over the fact that Obama's daughters did not get the shot? You have told me over and over the last few weeks that we must ALL get the shot in order to protect the weaker immune systems around us. AND his daughters are directly in the age bracket that the CDC recommends to get the shot. Yet they didn't get it. And I bet you they NEVER get the shot at all. So if the daughters of the President of the United States don't get the shot why exactly would I or any thinking person let their children get an untested and unproven vaccine?

Obama should lead by example right? haha...

DavieVegas 10-23-2009 05:00 PM

Im not getting the flu shot at all...or swine flu shot no sir reee

Vitasoy 10-23-2009 08:48 PM

That is messed up, poor girl :(

GAMEFINEST 10-23-2009 08:57 PM

that is crazy..

Libertine 10-24-2009 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16460217)
Its funny that you think I am the one that is scared. lol Im not at ALL scared of the swine flu, therefore not about to risk having an untested vaccine injected into me to "save me"..

You might not be scared of the swine flu, but you're evidently deathly afraid of vaccines - even if the risks of those are much, much smaller than the risks of swine flu.

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16460217)
And why did you skip over the fact that Obama's daughters did not get the shot? You have told me over and over the last few weeks that we must ALL get the shot in order to protect the weaker immune systems around us. AND his daughters are directly in the age bracket that the CDC recommends to get the shot. Yet they didn't get it. And I bet you they NEVER get the shot at all. So if the daughters of the President of the United States don't get the shot why exactly would I or any thinking person let their children get an untested and unproven vaccine?

Obama should lead by example right? haha...

Why would I care about Obama? He's educated as a lawyer and working as a politician. Whether he does or does not get his children vaccinated tells us as much about the safety of vaccines as the fact that he smokes tells us about the risks of smoking - nothing whatsoever.

Or do you think that if the President of the United Stated of America smokes, smoking must be entirely safe?

Regardless of what Obama does, says or thinks, he's a politician. Why base your actions on the words or actions of a politician when it comes to medicine? Personally, I prefer looking at what actual experts have to say - just like I would rather listen to a plumber than a lawyer when it comes to plumbing.

stickyfingerz 10-24-2009 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16461309)
You might not be scared of the swine flu, but you're evidently deathly afraid of vaccines - even if the risks of those are much, much smaller than the risks of swine flu.



Why would I care about Obama? He's educated as a lawyer and working as a politician. Whether he does or does not get his children vaccinated tells us as much about the safety of vaccines as the fact that he smokes tells us about the risks of smoking - nothing whatsoever.

Or do you think that if the President of the United Stated of America smokes, smoking must be entirely safe?

Regardless of what Obama does, says or thinks, he's a politician. Why base your actions on the words or actions of a politician when it comes to medicine? Personally, I prefer looking at what actual experts have to say - just like I would rather listen to a plumber than a lawyer when it comes to plumbing.

Yes Obama is a lawyer so obviously he doesn't know anything about the vaccine. Its unlikely he has teams of advisors, and the entire medical community of the United States at his fingertips....

Just admit you were wrong. YOU told me that EVERYONE needs to get the vaccine in order to protect the weaker immune systems around us. Obama DID NOT let his children get the vaccine, and Im betting neither did he, or anyone in his family. Whole thing is silly.

I don't have much time for all this though.. right now I am setting up the netting around my house to protect from killer bees, and birds that might carry the Avian flu. Then I have to make sure all my aerosol cans are gone to protect the ozone layer, then have to check the weather report to make sure I don't get caught in some nasty acid rain..... should I go on? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Baaaa baaaa black sheep...

sortie 10-24-2009 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16453913)
Quite interesting, I looked up a bit more about this case, and there are several noteworthy things - if you ignore the "diagnoses" offered by the reporters, at least.



First thing to note: it's suggested that she got the flu from the flu shot. However, the flu shot causing the flu is impossible. Unlike some other vaccines (including the nasal spray flu vaccine), the flu shot contains killed instead of merely attenuated viral particles. Those trigger an immune response which can cause some mild flu-like symptoms for a day or two, but they cannot cause the flu. Ever.

Second thing to note: she says she came down with the flu ten days after the flu shot. Any flu-like symptoms caused by the flu shot would have occurred much, much sooner, since the body reacts quite quickly to what it identifies as pathogens. So whatever the cause of her symptoms, the flu shot is an exceedingly unlikely suspect.

Third thing to note: her symptoms are atypical for dystonia, and she's actually being used as an example of psychogenic dystonia by neurologists teaching residents.

On the bright side, psychogenic dystonia can actually be treated. So she has a chance of making a full recovery :)

Well, I will simply note that nothing this terrible happened in her life until she got a flu shot.

Libertine 10-24-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16461726)
Yes Obama is a lawyer so obviously he doesn't know anything about the vaccine. Its unlikely he has teams of advisors, and the entire medical community of the United States at his fingertips....

Well, let's see... he has a rather busy job. Fully understanding the science about vaccinations takes years of study. Years of study which he has no time for.

By the way, you might not realize it, but he actually has the entire medical community of the world at his fingertips. As do you. Just google "PubMed", and you can find virtually all published medical research on virtually every subject.

And if you think he doesn't trust the flu vaccine, why would he not openly oppose it? After all, if it's gonna kill lots and lots of people, you know he'll be the one getting the blame.

What truly astounds me, however, is your sudden trust in Obama's good judgment. I mean, he has all the economists of the US at his fingertips too, yet you don't appear to agree with his decisions on the economy.

What gives? Have you suddenly become a great big Obama fan?

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16461726)
Just admit you were wrong. YOU told me that EVERYONE needs to get the vaccine in order to protect the weaker immune systems around us. Obama DID NOT let his children get the vaccine, and Im betting neither did he, or anyone in his family. Whole thing is silly.

Not that it matters, but he did get the flu shot. Which, again, is completely and utterly irrelevant - unless you've decided that Obama is the #1 expert on immunology in the world, and believe that he's involved in a conspiracy to kill everyone in the US.

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16461726)
I don't have much time for all this though.. right now I am setting up the netting around my house to protect from killer bees, and birds that might carry the Avian flu. Then I have to make sure all my aerosol cans are gone to protect the ozone layer, then have to check the weather report to make sure I don't get caught in some nasty acid rain..... should I go on? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Baaaa baaaa black sheep...

If there's one thing that's worse than being stupid, it's being willfully stupid. Sadly, that's exactly what you are.

Libertine 10-24-2009 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 16461764)
Well, I will simply note that nothing this terrible happened in her life until she got a flu shot.

On April 16, 1889, Charlie Chaplin was born. On April 20, 1889, Hitler was born. I guess we now know who to blame for the existence of Hitler: Charlie Chaplin.

I suppose we should blame the existence of HIV/AIDS on the invention of the television while we're at it.

Not to mention Danny Kaye - I bet he'd turn around in his grave if he knew that his death caused the first airing of The Bold and the Beautiful a few weeks later.

stickyfingerz 10-24-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16461953)
Well, let's see... he has a rather busy job. Fully understanding the science about vaccinations takes years of study. Years of study which he has no time for.

By the way, you might not realize it, but he actually has the entire medical community of the world at his fingertips. As do you. Just google "PubMed", and you can find virtually all published medical research on virtually every subject.

And if you think he doesn't trust the flu vaccine, why would he not openly oppose it? After all, if it's gonna kill lots and lots of people, you know he'll be the one getting the blame.

What truly astounds me, however, is your sudden trust in Obama's good judgment. I mean, he has all the economists of the US at his fingertips too, yet you don't appear to agree with his decisions on the economy.

What gives? Have you suddenly become a great big Obama fan?



Not that it matters, but he did get the flu shot. Which, again, is completely and utterly irrelevant - unless you've decided that Obama is the #1 expert on immunology in the world, and believe that he's involved in a conspiracy to kill everyone in the US.



If there's one thing that's worse than being stupid, it's being willfully stupid. Sadly, that's exactly what you are.

You have the primrose path memorized by now dont you? lmao

Btw maybe you should learn to read the links you post? Obama did NOT get the h1n1 vaccine.
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CBS News has learned that President Obama received his seasonal flu shot this afternoon. Other members of the First Family had already gotten theirs.

As a healthy adult with no underlying conditions, President Obama does not fall into the priority group to receive the H1N1 flu shot just yet.

But he intends to get it when available to the general population.
As far as being an Obama fan.....:error:error:error:error:1orglaugh:1orglau gh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You just keep skipping over it and over it. Why did you repeatedly tell me that EVERYONE needs to get this shot to protect the weak? When it appears they are only giving the shot TO THE WEAK. I was told by you that its our duty to protect the weak by receiving a shot that may or may not cause even the perfectly healthy to have health issues. Its all for the greater good right. Jesus wept...

Libertine 10-24-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16461963)
You have the primrose path memorized by now dont you? lmao

Btw maybe you should learn to read the links you post? Obama did NOT get the h1n1 vaccine.

He got the seasonal flu shot. Same shot the cheerleader this thread is about got.

Oh, wait, you do trust the seasonal flu shot, but not the H1N1 vaccine? That's what you're trying to say? If so, I suppose that's a pretty big step forward for a small-brained guy like you.

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16461963)
As far as being an Obama fan.....:error:error:error:error:1orglaugh:1orglau gh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Yes. You're not an Obama fan. You disagree with virtually every single one of his positions. And what I was pointing out was how bizarre it is for you, who do not trust him on anything, to take his actions as some kind of odd "proof" that flu shots can't be trusted.

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16461963)
You just keep skipping over it and over it. Why did you repeatedly tell me that EVERYONE needs to get this shot to protect the weak? When it appears they are only giving the shot TO THE WEAK. I was told by you that its our duty to protect the weak by receiving a shot that may or may not cause even the perfectly healthy to have health issues. Its all for the greater good right. Jesus wept...

Actually, what I said was that not getting vaccinated endangers others as well as yourself, both by fucking up herd immunity and becoming a source of the disease. Note that that was in a discussion on vaccinations in general.

In the case of your favorite subject, H1N1 vaccinations, the main reason for vaccination should be rational self-interest. The swine flu has already killed dozens of otherwise healthy children, while there is literally zero evidence for the swine flu vaccine posing a risk that is in any way, shape or form comparable.

But why am I even discussing this with you... it's not like I actually want to contribute to the continued existence of your shitty genes. So please, disregard all I said. Don't vaccinate your children for anything. :glugglug

stickyfingerz 10-24-2009 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16462414)
He got the seasonal flu shot. Same shot the cheerleader this thread is about got.

Oh, wait, you do trust the seasonal flu shot, but not the H1N1 vaccine? That's what you're trying to say? If so, I suppose that's a pretty big step forward for a small-brained guy like you.



Yes. You're not an Obama fan. You disagree with virtually every single one of his positions. And what I was pointing out was how bizarre it is for you, who do not trust him on anything, to take his actions as some kind of odd "proof" that flu shots can't be trusted.



Actually, what I said was that not getting vaccinated endangers others as well as yourself, both by fucking up herd immunity and becoming a source of the disease. Note that that was in a discussion on vaccinations in general.

In the case of your favorite subject, H1N1 vaccinations, the main reason for vaccination should be rational self-interest. The swine flu has already killed dozens of otherwise healthy children, while there is literally zero evidence for the swine flu vaccine posing a risk that is in any way, shape or form comparable.

But why am I even discussing this with you... it's not like I actually want to contribute to the continued existence of your shitty genes. So please, disregard all I said. Don't vaccinate your children for anything. :glugglug

Yup and I should also stop driving, stop swimming, stop eating foods I could choke on, stop having sex, stop going up and down stairs, stop crossing the street, blah blah. There are tons of shit that can kill you. And you are now downplaying your "herd immunity" shit. You flat out said we would all infect the weaker of the herd if we didn't do our "duty" by getting the shot. Whatever dude. Its a retarded thing to argue about because AGAIN in 1 year we will not hear about it again.

Just keep on falling for the next big scare... you are after all a professional at it. lmao

gecko 10-24-2009 06:34 PM

Damn... poor girl. :(

Libertine 10-24-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16463025)
Yup and I should also stop driving, stop swimming, stop eating foods I could choke on, stop having sex, stop going up and down stairs, stop crossing the street, blah blah. There are tons of shit that can kill you. And you are now downplaying your "herd immunity" shit. You flat out said we would all infect the weaker of the herd if we didn't do our "duty" by getting the shot. Whatever dude. Its a retarded thing to argue about because AGAIN in 1 year we will not hear about it again.

Just keep on falling for the next big scare... you are after all a professional at it. lmao

Downplaying herd immunity? Herd immunity is *extremely* important when it comes to many other diseases that are vaccinated against. Not getting your children the MMR vaccine, the DTP vaccine, etc. is extremely irresponsible, since it endangers not just your children, but other people and society as a whole as well.

With the flu, however, the problem is that it spreads and mutates too quickly to make it possible to achieve herd immunity. By the time you have an effective vaccine, there already are tons of outbreaks. By the time you've vaccinated enough of the population to get within reach of herd immunity, a new strain of the flu is already rearing its head.

So with the flu, the primary goal isn't achieving herd immunity - the middle of an epidemic is quite a bit too late to start thinking of that. Rather, the primary goal is protecting those most at risk.

That means that vaccinating people with weakened immune systems, people working with patients who have weakened immune systems, and people most likely to come into contact with the virus is the priority. After that, mass vaccinations can be used to slow the spread of the epidemic and decrease damage among the population as a whole - especially in case a strain mutates into something more devastating.

With viruses that don't mutate or spread as quickly, on the other hand, both herd immunity and individual prevention are primary goals. Herd immunity is the reason smallpox is now forever gone, and the reason that there's a good chance of eradicating polio in the reasonably near future.

But you don't understand any of this, do you?

DBS.US 10-24-2009 09:17 PM

She needs a pair of Spyglasses

These Spy Glasses look like an ordinary pair of cool sun glasses...except they're not! You can actually see behind you!

On the inside outer edges of each of the lenses is a special mirrored coating that allows you to see what is going on behind you.

Taking a walk or riding a bike and feel like you're being followed? Just look to your right or left to see who it is! Its like having a rear view mirror with you.

http://www.tbotech.com/images/spy-glasses.jpg
http://www.tbotech.com/spyglasses.htm

After Shock Media 10-25-2009 02:42 AM

Some out of order crap I wish to post.

1. Aside from yes it is a pandemic by definition, it also has a questionable stability so it can also mutate quickly yet thankfully it has not. However it is a virus that has crossed species which makes it an additional threat.

2. In school IQ testing is BS. Hell Penn & Teller should do a show on it. I had the in school IQ tests. I scored real low at first (random answers by me, which landed me in special ed. Even though they told me the test did not matter). Second test I took seriously and it placed me in the high IQ gifted arena. They wanted to talk skipping grades, special advance classes and all that shit. I complained and eventually got what I want which was normal classes.
Fast Forward a few years. I get into my medical malpractice lawsuit. Lawyers from both sides need to discover my future income potential and many other factors at the ripe age of 12-13. This testing took 2-3 days at around 4 to 6 hours each day. The results were much different than what the schools ever said. I will just leave it at that and say unless people have done that type of brain testing, IQ tests are bullshit.

3. In most places nobody can even get the damn h1n1 shot, spray, or whatever. They just are not available. I do mean nobody too, even places full of chemo patients who could kick it by catching a common cold.

stickyfingerz 10-25-2009 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16463074)
Downplaying herd immunity? Herd immunity is *extremely* important when it comes to many other diseases that are vaccinated against. Not getting your children the MMR vaccine, the DTP vaccine, etc. is extremely irresponsible, since it endangers not just your children, but other people and society as a whole as well.

With the flu, however, the problem is that it spreads and mutates too quickly to make it possible to achieve herd immunity. By the time you have an effective vaccine, there already are tons of outbreaks. By the time you've vaccinated enough of the population to get within reach of herd immunity, a new strain of the flu is already rearing its head.

So with the flu, the primary goal isn't achieving herd immunity - the middle of an epidemic is quite a bit too late to start thinking of that. Rather, the primary goal is protecting those most at risk.

That means that vaccinating people with weakened immune systems, people working with patients who have weakened immune systems, and people most likely to come into contact with the virus is the priority. After that, mass vaccinations can be used to slow the spread of the epidemic and decrease damage among the population as a whole - especially in case a strain mutates into something more devastating.

With viruses that don't mutate or spread as quickly, on the other hand, both herd immunity and individual prevention are primary goals. Herd immunity is the reason smallpox is now forever gone, and the reason that there's a good chance of eradicating polio in the reasonably near future.

But you don't understand any of this, do you?

Yes I don't understand any of it... lmao. Okies its amazing how you have flipped from what you were saying just a week ago. AMAZING!

Haven't slept yet, so Ill wait to pick through your contradictory posts after I get some rest.

habs4life 10-25-2009 05:13 AM

lmao funny shit

Cutty 10-25-2009 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 16453435)
That's fucked......But you can bet your bottom dollar that she's going to become the top marathon runner in the world.

yea that would be cool, this is some crazy ass shit I feel bad for these people. damn

Pleasurepays 10-25-2009 07:10 AM

100 healthy people fearing the flu

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