I am a "Liberal" so to speak. I just see how everyone thinks they are "special' in this country. Everyone needs special medicines, special care, special schooling, special income.... everyone is up their own asses and thinks EVERYONE owes them something.

That's why when someone cuts me off in traffic and I honk, THEY turn around and flip me off. Everyone in American is turning to shit before everyones eyes. You and me included. We're adapting to the way the majority is running their lives.

i have said this all along, there will never be a universal government run healthcare in the US.
simply put:
1. Healthcare industry/ pharmaceutical is biggest fiscal industry in US (even bigger than energy)
2. No person is going to spend 10 years in med school and run up $250K in school loans to get a middleclass income.
3. The only entity the US government is running with a reasonable success is the military.. a healthcare industry run by the government would be a disaster.

Instead the healthcare industry leaders will come up with their own reform, making somewhat of a universal program but in private companies, similar to Keiser making the cost reasonable to most americans...

btw, there are too many elections in the US, nothing ever gets done as there is another election around the corner and politicians are much to concerned with their popularity etc.

Haha, dude... look at your signature and avatar.

We all laugh at you guys.. not bull shitting here, let me spill the beans.

Like little girls chatting on the phone we icq each other and provoke more posts, just to see what you morons will say.

Pure.. absolute, entertainment to see you morons run around with your heads cut off and we laugh about it until we get bored with our temporary play toy.

Agreed, at least you're a liberal with some common sense.

as my worker puts it, the only people that don't want universal healthcare are the people who already have health insurance. in his mind, since he dosent have health insurance and can't afford it, something for him is better then nothing.

What would you guys rather have, no sales or at least one.

Ive never heard of a perfect president, we can't blame obama for creating debt. every president has contributed to this. Every president fucks up, some get 8 years to fuck up.

Bitch about it all you want, it does no good. the people only have the power to elect, not to tell the presidents what to do.

I guess politics is so easy it seems like everyone should do it.

Vote for me in 2012, im putting my name on the ballot...

One conclusion that can be drawn from last night's election results, that we can all agree on 100%, is that 12clicks is an asshole and the most pompous mother fucker to ever post on GFY.

Translation: I hate being embarrassed on a porn forum and my defense mechanism of denial is kicking in so I'm going to make up some shit about me and an unknown group of people on this forum laughing at other people on this forum so I can seem cool or at the very least, succeed in lying to myself.

Pompous? Probably. Asshole? Maybe. Speaks the truth? Absolutely. Stop talking for the entire forum, it makes you look stupid.

I'm so fucking glad I live in Canada. I am very happy with the medical treatment I've received up here, my friends, family, and former co-workers all had great care when any of us got hurt.

No "pre-existing conditions", no big bills. Total cost... $0!

How can anyone be conservative in this business?

1. I'm not really in this business. I promote dating sites as income to pay for law school.
2. It's easy to be conservative and in this business. For instance, I think porn is absolutely disgusting, but also a first amendment right which I support.

Bingo. :thumbsup

Nothing will change.

You are naive to think otherwise.

Go back to sleep.

Wow... your posts are getting better and better. What defense mechanism would I need to turn on with you?

Your points have been shut down, stepped on and rolled over. And like always and other posts from you, you pull out the left/liberal, same post as above, lame twist of nothing.

You're truly a nobody... and it must kill you to know no one is actually paying attention to shit you spew and the entire group of you is topic of laughter, on gfy and in business.

Your part of a dieing minority, thank god.. a source of entertainment to us gods.

The "Right" is retarded if they believe all of the "left" is nothing more than welfare people who pay no taxes. There is a lot more to so called political ideology than just fiscal.

liberal, liberal, liberal, socialist, liberal, liberal. I don't know why so many people use the term liberal like its a racial slur. It just makes you look stupid that you have to use such black and white labels. Its a lot easier to hate a symbol, isn't it?

The Right listens to too much talk radio and doesn't analyze the arguements thoroughly.

Generalizations, rants and obfuscations are not really a substitute for hard news.

denial+lying to yourself #1. Make sure you have evidence to back up your assertion that my points have been shut down, so you don't sound like an utter tool.

denial+lying to yourself #2. Can there be any doubt as to why you're always the subject of ridicule and generally considered the forum clown?


You must be used to getting humiliated on forums and in real life.

Put healthcare in the hands of government and you at least can hold them accountable. It becomes an election issue, and they do something about it.

Best thing you could do is start a National health service for the people like just about every other civilized country enjoyes. Nothing fancy. Those who want to stick to the better private system can, but at least you get what should be a basic human right for everyone.

The left doesn't know how to analyze arguments at all. Or spell for that matter.

Thanks Arnox!

Old people (like you) do not like change and old people vote. thus the problem. Bush had the same problem.

Healthcare is getting fucking expensive...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

so when the paid professionals say that a real fear for a lot of Americans is going bankrupt due to medical costs, they are lying?

I'm begging you to do the research yourself in regards to the Socialized Medicine. That line of 'anyone can walk into a hospital' is one of the very reasons your current system is obsolete. You can't budget for costs that you can't predict, and leaving millions uninsured with however many more millions in aliens, you are spending a LOT more than what you should be

it's good business sense. i'm having a hard time figuring out why the republicans aren't getting that

Here we go again. yes, I have been humiliated by a nobody... of all likes, a nobody that nobody is even paying attention to, which hasn't actually said shit... other than 'liberal and leftist' used as an attack weapon..

I'm waiting for you to prove me wrong... Until then, shut your cock holster.

Yea that's a hilarious excuse. Because change is necessarily good or progressive. At least the "old" people had a sense of morals and common sense, i'll take them over this new generation of morons any day. The crumbling of society is a realistic thing and is happening with young people getting dumber and dumber.

Ah yes, a nobody. A nobody who is superior to you in every facet of life. Owned:)

You haven't said anything right, nor anything that indicates any type of intelligence on your part. Keep embarrassing yourself:)
http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics...owned-1602.jpg

Again, you still haven't proven me wrong.. this is like the 6th time you have posted stupid shit like this.

You clearly.... clearly, have nothing to actually attack with.

But please... keep posting.

Poor guy, too stupid to realize he's embarrassing yourself. I wonder if he understands that to prove him wrong, he has to say something "right". Oh well, definitely the joke of the forum

Whahhattt?

To prove me wrong, I have to say something right?

Wow... brilliant!

7 posts of spew and nothing new.

lol.... what an idiot ....

still need 20$ bucks in Epass ?? big transaction !

ROFL look at this idiot, he can't follow simple common sense.

ROFL.. You're about 12 hours late with the typo, tool.

Looking gr-eight with this post too... more please.

The current generation is the most literate generation ever thanks to the internet and texting.

You cannot travel through an American city and not see that it has improved in the last 20 years. Same with most of the world. Society is not crumbling. You are getting narrow minded. Every metric is showing the world getting better, you just choose to ignore that.

Watch old movies or old TV. You would not have wanted to lived then. So why glorify that time?

I believe you're in the double digit post of self pwnage:thumbsup

Yeah, al-righty then!

The most literate generation? Where did you get this nonsense? Thanks to the internet and texting? Yes, you've just proven that this generation is more braindead thanks to the internet and texting. Having the internet doesn't making you "literate".

You're not providing ANY facts whatsoever. Technology has improved as a natural progression but as a society we have regressed.

And again... boring now and really lame.

But I will ask again, prove whatever I said wrong.... it's that simple or keep posting and showing gfy that you have nothing to say, other than typical spew.