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A-n-D-r-E-S 11-23-2009 06:10 AM

Wow awesome pics dude! :thumbsup

quantum-x 11-23-2009 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16576664)
Wouldn't you need a remote release/bulb exposure for that? Even the veritable Canon 1 series is limited to a 30 second maximum shutter speed...

My Canon timer is busted but it still functions as a remote release by plugging it in, then unplugging it sometime later. :1orglaugh

It's practically impossible to meter over 30 seconds accurately, so that's why nothing goes over.

Yeah, you'll need a remote release and throw it in bulb mode. Neither hard nor expensive. Stick it on F5.6 - F8, open it up, have a few beers and close the shutter when you remember it 2 hours later :D

Sausage 11-23-2009 06:42 AM

Ignore the attention seekers and idiots ... those are some amazing shots ! :)

bbm 11-23-2009 06:46 AM

nice photos

sex69 11-23-2009 06:55 AM

I like the first pic

baddog 11-23-2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 16576475)
Damn, bad luck. I even managed to see one in Paris (land of light pollution).
BTW, drop your ISO down to something like 200 or so. Your photos will take longer, but will be much less noisy, and the colours will be a bit more saturated. That, and if you're shooting 15 - 20m exposures, you'll get lovely star trails.

Thanks. Was reading about star trails and we got some, but I was not impressed with my results. If I could get some like these my opinion would likely change. :winkwink:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0609...hambsch_f1.jpg

http://liquidinplastic.com/wp-conten...rdistreaks.jpg

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16576658)
Are those car headlights or did you do light painting?

Good question. goodgirl thinks it was from a car that came by while I initially thought it was from the light from my trunk being open. Cool result either way. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16576664)
Wouldn't you need a remote release/bulb exposure for that? Even the veritable Canon 1 series is limited to a 30 second maximum shutter speed...

My Canon timer is busted but it still functions as a remote release by plugging it in, then unplugging it sometime later. :1orglaugh

Actually, in the bulb mode if you manually hold the shutter button down it will stay open until you release it. Then I found out goodgirl had her remote with her so we did play with that a little.

Next time I will use quantum-x's suggestion of the 200 ISO.

So much to learn.

czarina 11-23-2009 08:54 AM

very beautiful

rowan 11-23-2009 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 16576723)
It's practically impossible to meter over 30 seconds accurately, so that's why nothing goes over.

Yeah, you'll need a remote release and throw it in bulb mode. Neither hard nor expensive. Stick it on F5.6 - F8, open it up, have a few beers and close the shutter when you remember it 2 hours later :D

I do test shots at ISO1600 then drop back down to 200 or 100 and adjust the exposure time (8X and 16X) accordingly.

It was more fun on slide film, you had to use intuition and experience to decide on an appropriate exposure... or sit on your bum while you manually bracket shots. ;)

Then there's the lone car headlights at 2am or the sky clouding over at 4:15am to ruin your careful planning...

tranza 11-23-2009 08:57 AM

Amazing shots Baddog!!

rowan 11-23-2009 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16577117)
Thanks. Was reading about star trails and we got some, but I was not impressed with my results. If I could get some like these my opinion would likely change. :winkwink:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0609...hambsch_f1.jpg

http://liquidinplastic.com/wp-conten...rdistreaks.jpg

Very nice! I don't think a standard DSLR would be able to do that unfortunately, since the shutter would need to be open for several hours. I guess it might be possible if you had a way of powering the camera externally.

From memory you get the tight/closed circle effect if you point the lens north or south.

The Duck 11-23-2009 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BLOG BURGLAR (Post 16575037)
you suck at photography

:1orglaugh

yuu.design 11-23-2009 09:19 AM

nice pics doode!

rowan 11-23-2009 09:30 AM

http://thsrv.com/p/sm_CRW_5472.jpg

On second thoughts, maybe you don't need so long. This is an image I did a few years ago, there are a couple of technical issues with it but I guess it looks ok. The shutter was open for 41 minutes. (It SHOULD have been open about 2-3 times that...)

baddog 11-23-2009 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16577163)
Very nice! I don't think a standard DSLR would be able to do that unfortunately, since the shutter would need to be open for several hours. I guess it might be possible if you had a way of powering the camera externally.

From memory you get the tight/closed circle effect if you point the lens north or south.

The problem is finding a direction with minimal light pollution. At least around here. Guess I could drive to Wyoming. :winkwink:

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16577239)
http://thsrv.com/p/sm_CRW_5472.jpg

On second thoughts, maybe you don't need so long. This is an image I did a few years ago, there are a couple of technical issues with it but I guess it looks ok. The shutter was open for 41 minutes. (It SHOULD have been open about 2-3 times that...)

Are you using a wide angle lens?

Reason I ask is these were my best star trails, but they seem too close.



http://juliablue.com/stars7389.jpg


http://juliablue.com/stars7390.jpg

I may have been pointing straight up for those. I guess that could be part of it, but again, I was trying to avoid light pollution.

rowan 11-23-2009 09:52 AM

Yep, I was using a wide angle lens @12mm which on that camera is equivalent to 19.2mm on a full frame/film camera.

I tend to do my night shots well out of the city area, as well as the light pollution issue it also means I'm less likely to freak out someone (or have them harass me) because I'm sitting on a foldout chair at 2am doing nothing...

Remember for star trails (with no foreground object) you'll want to manually set your focus to infinity.

baddog 11-23-2009 09:56 AM

Well, we were 100 miles out in the desert, but around here if there isn't a town within 30 miles there are going to be campers . . . which is how we got the headlights.

I am not sure I understand how to set the focus to infinity.

rowan 11-23-2009 10:00 AM

Is it a DSLR or P&S? If it's DSLR then you should be able to switch the lens to manual and rotate the focus ring so the focus mark aligns with the infinity mark. (The focus ring on "full lock" sometimes goes PAST infinity so you need to align them visually)

If it's P&S then it's anyone's guess... if you can't focus manually then there may be a landscape preset.

quantum-x 11-23-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16577262)
The problem is finding a direction with minimal light pollution. At least around here. Guess I could drive to Wyoming. :winkwink:



Are you using a wide angle lens?

Reason I ask is these were my best star trails, but they seem too close.



http://juliablue.com/stars7389.jpg


http://juliablue.com/stars7390.jpg

I may have been pointing straight up for those. I guess that could be part of it, but again, I was trying to avoid light pollution.

Here's my experience.
If you're in the northern hemisphere (which you are :winkwink:) the point of star rotation is around the north star. Very easy.
If you're in the southern hemisphere, find the southern cross, and 'copy' its height 2.5x below its tail - that's the rotation point.

You'll start to see the effects of rotation become prominent after 5 minutes. A full rotation is 24 hours (kind of logical) - so you get 1 degree of turning every 4 minutes. Obviously the stars further away from the rotation point will appear to move further, but that may not be the effect you're looking for.

Best piece of advice w/ star trail photos is that you probably want a decent subject in your foreground. Use the widest lens possible to maximise the effect, find some nice foreground, shuffle around til you get the point of rotation right, and then off you go.

It's a nice effect, easy to have too much of it though.
One of my favourite shots is
http://www.phys.ncku.edu.tw/~astrola..._heller_c1.jpg

The guy who takes it is a master photographer (and I don't give that term lightly) - he has a terrific page with good, to the point information:

http://www.danheller.com/star-trails.html

Serial Pervert 11-23-2009 11:07 AM

beautiful pics dude!

baddog 11-23-2009 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16577310)
Is it a DSLR or P&S? If it's DSLR then you should be able to switch the lens to manual and rotate the focus ring so the focus mark aligns with the infinity mark. (The focus ring on "full lock" sometimes goes PAST infinity so you need to align them visually)

If it's P&S then it's anyone's guess... if you can't focus manually then there may be a landscape preset.

It is a DSLR, however, there are no markings on the focus ring. I have contemplated adding my own. Would make it so much easier on me.

baddog 11-23-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 16577388)
Here's my experience.
If you're in the northern hemisphere (which you are :winkwink:) the point of star rotation is around the north star. Very easy.
If you're in the southern hemisphere, find the southern cross, and 'copy' its height 2.5x below its tail - that's the rotation point.

You'll start to see the effects of rotation become prominent after 5 minutes. A full rotation is 24 hours (kind of logical) - so you get 1 degree of turning every 4 minutes. Obviously the stars further away from the rotation point will appear to move further, but that may not be the effect you're looking for.

Best piece of advice w/ star trail photos is that you probably want a decent subject in your foreground. Use the widest lens possible to maximise the effect, find some nice foreground, shuffle around til you get the point of rotation right, and then off you go.

It's a nice effect, easy to have too much of it though.
One of my favourite shots is
http://www.phys.ncku.edu.tw/~astrola..._heller_c1.jpg

The guy who takes it is a master photographer (and I don't give that term lightly) - he has a terrific page with good, to the point information:

http://www.danheller.com/star-trails.html

Thank you for your input. I was directed to Heller last night. Will have to check out his site.

Deesnuts 11-23-2009 12:49 PM

nice shots

rowan 11-23-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16577239)

http://thsrv.com/p/sm_CRW_5461.jpg

For some contrast here's the same bridge from a distance... I tried a star trail but the moon also trails, which just looks weird.

raven1083 11-23-2009 07:57 PM

thanks for sharing!!! indeed beautiful

baddog 11-24-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16579056)
I tried a star trail but the moon also trails, which just looks weird.

We were watching the moon this evening as we had gone out to have dinner with my daughter and took one of the bikes. Later we walked the dog and were discussing how it was traveling across the sky here. The subject of moon trails came up.

Is it your experience that if we did a 20 minute exposure it would not be worth it?

Waddymelon 11-24-2009 12:15 AM

Try to get a pic of an iridium flare, they are pretty common and should make for an impressive photograph.

Or, the space station flying overhead would leave an impressive trail without anything else leaving one because it moves so fast.

quantum-x 11-24-2009 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16579466)
We were watching the moon this evening as we had gone out to have dinner with my daughter and took one of the bikes. Later we walked the dog and were discussing how it was traveling across the sky here. The subject of moon trails came up.

Is it your experience that if we did a 20 minute exposure it would not be worth it?

It will overexpose your photo in a snap.
Moon trails ain't so pretty :D

http://www.ninjito.com/images/2009-11-17/qx-pano-4.jpg

That's about 6m of exposure time, and you can see if it was 20, the moon would be smeared all over the place, and not look so elegant :)

themadwriter 11-24-2009 03:36 AM

fucking great pics man! keep'em coming

rowan 11-24-2009 05:46 AM

It's coming up to midnight again, and tonight I'm going for it. The sky is very lightly clouded so I'm banking on it clearing rather than getting heavier. Moon goes down in about 90 mins which is around the time I'll arrive at the location... a gully with a waterfall that is hopefully flowing at the moment due to heavy rains. Might even get on GFY while I'm waiting. :D

baddog 11-24-2009 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16579991)
It's coming up to midnight again, and tonight I'm going for it. The sky is very lightly clouded so I'm banking on it clearing rather than getting heavier. Moon goes down in about 90 mins which is around the time I'll arrive at the location... a gully with a waterfall that is hopefully flowing at the moment due to heavy rains. Might even get on GFY while I'm waiting. :D

Good luck.

rowan 11-24-2009 09:28 AM

I'm here now, it's 3:30am, and I'm trying out my new fangled wireless internet. It's pretty dodgy but then I'm in a rural area. Things didn't go quite the way I expected - can't get a really good angle that catches the stars, water pool and waterfall - but I've set up my timer to do a couple of 1 hour shots anyway. After that the sun's up. :)

I think tonight's more about getting out than getting a good shot. I'll only have two to show, and they'll be framed exactly the same...

Sid70 11-24-2009 10:07 AM

the pics are ugly as fuck but i got your idea, gotta be visiting the palce to feel it.

DonX 11-24-2009 10:15 AM

Great pics :thumbsup:thumbsup


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