So if each signup is $75, you making $7500 a day? Hmmm...

What you promoting?

i know ruck and steve a little bit. c2m is a good network.

i have not once ever seen a mainstream guy yell "those porn guys are making more money". not once....

are you keeping your ears open ?:winkwink:

yeah they are good guys.. they paid me 6 figs this year..

and escortbiz mainstream is SUCH an easier sell, cuz its a way bigger market.. it does make money.. when was the last time an adult website got epcs of $4 off google traffic

you are diverting with the 2000 joins, any idiot can send 2000 free dating joins.. this wasnt what the topic was about.. stop skirting around it. like i said

I DOUBT any affiliate today is sending 2000 CREDIT CARD/PAID JOINS to a program today..

you kidding me? the whole planet every business person in non adult walks around talking how porn dont get effected by anything, recession free

please

again ill repeat there are guys in this business doing more than 2000 sales a day, I dont make more or less money if you believe me or not, im just stating the facts

2000 paid joins or paid for a product adult related,

mainstream is a easier sell and 5000 times harder to get the traffic, I do this for over 10 years now, I see numbers and facts not bullshit stories

ya, and i haven't seen anyone say it, ESPECIALLY anyone who has promoted both.

at my best point promoting adult i was doing 4-5 joins a day to paysites, and this was after like 2-3 years of fiddling around with things. i've only recently passed the 1 year mark since i started promoting adult, and I do 10x that. i'm still no guru by any means, but any idiot can see mainstream is a WAY easier sell with a way broader market.

stick to adult then... no one is gonna argue with you. if you're doing better with adult, or making bank with adult and think adult is the place to be, go with it man. but all traffic numbers aside, i still find making money with mainstream products waaaaaay easier. but that's just me and my experience.

The grass for sure, IS NOT greener on the mainstream side... but it's for sure a MUCH larger field. The affiliate programs in mainstream are bigger than our processors.....

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Personally, I have never met anyone doing over a few hundred sales a day that didn't own many of the products they made sales on. I would have to say... if "an affiliate" produce 2k+ sales a day and didn't own the products, they're an idiot and losing millions. :2 cents:

When people talk about affiliates this size, they are obviously not referring to gallery submitters, TGP owners, niche bloggers, etc... People need to realize that.

There are many ways of sending huge traffic that most people on this board have never even heard of.

eh ok man. ive been here for many years too.. adult was getting me nowhere, i moved to mainstream and im doing $xxx,xxx in revenue a month...

mainstream is EASY to get traffic.. ppc, media buys, email campaigns, all make money..

and once again you skip the question... your reply "2000 paid joins or paid for a product adult related", DUH of course people are doing 2000 joins for "adult related" products..

what THIS THEAD was for is affiliates pushing traffic to AFFILIATE PROGRAMS, basically porn..

so tell us once again, you sure there are single affiliates who are sending 2,000 PAID JOINS to ADULT WEBSITES daily? and consistently? someone must have lied to you..

can a big program come here and chime in that none of their affiliates are sending 60,000 joins a month consistently for the past few months/yrs

"at my best point promoting adult i was doing 4-5 joins a day to paysites, and this was after like 2-3 years of fiddling around with things."

you must be stupid, sorry

Fuck man, when we started flyering at the wallmart parking lot our sales trippled over night!

I do mainstream lol damn you people

mainstream is A MUCH LARGER Playing field.. when im pushing a cpa offer like a make money at home kit, and im converting say 1:20, then m like wtf is wrong, normal conversions are lower.. basically any offer im making less than $2 per click i pull

and yeah fuze you are right, theres guys doing lots of joins with blackhat shit, but yet again, do you know of ANYONE who is honestly sending 2,000 PAID memberships to an affiliate program consistently day in and day out?

i dont, the doc doesnt either... so do you?

"there are single affiliates who are sending 2,000 PAID JOINS to ADULT WEBSITES daily and consistently"

no one lied to me

Many many years back I made a post here on GFY, it included the break down of how paysites make money... and it said Emails were worth like $10 or $15 value, anyway..

Current day, adult emails for sure aren't worth that or even close to that.

But my mainstream emails, "every opt-in" is worth just under $15.... I earn on average $1 for every opt-in before I send an email. Not very expensive products either... but enough to slow people down.

The niche in mainstream, is GOD!

In adult, traffic is god...

What I think at least.... through enough shit traffic at porn and you make money. Select the wrong niche in mainstream you can send a billion hits and not make a dime.

ALso i'll chime in the guys making big money from mainstream are basically emailing.lol its so easy a caveman can do it :)

Get stedb/volomp, get some quality lists, and mail can spam compliant all day.. can easily do 4-5 figures without trying.. try that with adult...

Re-read his posts :2 cents:

yup i agree. i have a nice targeted list i do mainstream with, and ive made high 6 figs this year from it.. just keep pushing general offers like make money at home, teeth whitening, home biz hit, etc..

OK i am tired of arguing, you win, yeah sure there are affiliates who are sending 2000 paid joins to porn sites daily.

please tell me what program they are sending to? because you can count on hand hand, the affiliate programs in adult who even see 1000 joins daily

and stupid is doing quite well with mainstream right now, so point proven.

and you still think adult is an easier buck?

That is VERY well said and so TRUE!

guy(s) doing 2,000+ CREDIT CARD joins a day??? I guess if you counting rebills, every "transaction" like with a cam site where 1 person might make (10) $25 buys in 1 day etc.... I was thinking NEW Sales, If there are guys out there doing 2,000+ NEW Credit Card Joins a day, I would like to meet both of them LOL....

2000 new joins x $50 = $100,000 a day. $36,500,000 a year... you sure about that... affiliates not big program owners???

There can be, but they aren't making those joins at paysites...dating, maybe...cams, maybe...paysites, no.

I was responding to the original topic and people talking about 100 joins a day. Don't drag me into this 2000 join a day catfight.

Truly, I think anything is possible, online sales wise. Even if I haven't seen it or heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Even though it doesn't sound very logical...

I thought at one time I had a lot of domains registered, until I found someone with 10x what I had... then I found someone with 1 million + registered domains.

After that... I said screw it, anything is possible online.

In this business, anything is possible!!!

some affiliates easily make 3000 full paysite joins a day.

ha, ha :thumbsup

Correct.
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xxweekxx: What are some good mainstream programs? For PPS?

Good Question.

bump for xxweekxx

bump for you!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

lots of people doing lots of joins...but what do you have to offer that is better then what they are already promoting?

best mainstream networks that have made me 6 figs this yr:

neverblue
hydranetwork.com
convert2media.com
copeac.com
azoogle.com
clickbooth.com

its not easy to get in these tho.. you gotta apply, they call you, ask you how u gonna promote, etc..

Most programs can't even do that per day anymore.
WG

So what do you need to get accepted? It seems like simply telling them you promote via PPC isn't enough.

Fucking right, I bought this Make money from Google pack just to see what the hubbub ws about, and it was $3.50 so I figure, wtf... Luckily I used a card I rarely use, because 3 days later I got nailed with a $75 charge, and some other shit, not to mention the email I made specifically for it has been getting steady 300+ spams a day since I did it 4 months ago, and up until about a month ago, was getting phone calls daily from people offering more products like it...

I tried to cancel it, and the guy called me and asked if I was interested in making money online, I told him no I already do, and to please cancel me, he kept pushing it, I kept denying, until he said he was gonna let me talk to his supervisor to let him prove to me it's worth it, super gets on asks if I'm interested, I said no, and was about to tell him why, and he assholishly said "stop wasting our time" and hung up on me.

Luckily their retarded asses called me back 2 days later, and I immediately asked to talk to that supervisor again and I told him "Stop wasting your time, you guys called me again after knowing damn well I'm not interested, stop wasting my time" he got cocky with me...

To be pefectly honest, I don't think even the worst shit people bitch about as being shady on GFY, is even close to the shit they do in mainstream.

Fuckers are ruthless.

yup.. dont know why escort keeps saying he knows people who are doing 2000 paid joins..

anyway yeah mainstream is brutal.. heres my fav one, the offer has gone down now though.. but it was an acai offer, paying $40 per $1.99 trial.. AND get this..

Their terms say that once you order, you have to return the product within 7 days of your order to get a full refund.. but get this, it says allow 7-15 business days for product delivery. LOL, so basically once you order you will get fucked for $90+ in 7 days.lol

they got a lot of complaints and shut it down.. but thats fucking evil.. i LOLed hard.... adult is nothing, go to mainstream and see companies charging $200 after a 3 day trial...

and the terms are hidden all the way at the bottom..lol

no, dont tell them that.. tell them you do email marketing..

just say you do can spam mailing, your list is 2mil, and your verticals are biz opp, diet products and some finance offers..

say you are can spam compliant and run a custom mailing solution..

say you are doing 5 figs/week with other networks.. also if they ask where ur list is from, say the marketing dept in your company handles it... case closed.. you will get into 99% of companies like that.. cuz the person on the phone has no clue what to ask you anymore, nor do they even understand how emailing works, plus there really is no other question they can ask you about emailing... ppc they can ask to see adwords, some keywords you bid for, some landing pages, etc.. email has none of that.. you just load up list, creative(ad), and blast away...

if you say ppc then they go like BS, cuz everyone says PPC.. so say email... i started doing that and now i havent been denied in a network in a year, and im in over 50 right now

Teeth whitening with pulse360/adsonar payz the billllz

I never said I was getting $75 per sale.

how's you get into mailing? how to get started?

dude you DONT actually have to mail to get into the network.. just BS man, that was the point of my post.. they cant prove nor do they care if you eventually use another traffic method..

Once you get approved they dont care what you do anymore... the whole point is to get approved..

I know a affiliate that does over 1000 joins a day, so anything is possible

yeah i know. was sure i read some posts back you were doing well mailing can spam compliant offers.