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EscortBiz 12-21-2009 01:26 PM

yes there are affiliates doing 2000+ joins a day, not network site owners, fact not fiction

xxweekxx 12-21-2009 01:28 PM

wow ok... i dont know if i believe someone is pulling 2000+ joins/day consistent as an affiliate

do you realize that is 60,000 joins/month, 720,000 joins/yr.. come on man,

theres even probably only a few NETWORKS even doing that in adult nowadays.. not to talk of single affiliates

datatank 12-21-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16669725)
yes there are affiliates doing 2000+ joins a day, not network site owners, fact not fiction


And let me guess they send to rev share programs only?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-21-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 16669764)
wow ok... i dont know if i believe someone is pulling 2000+ joins/day consistent as an affiliate

do you realize that is 60,000 joins/month, 720,000 joins/yr.. come on man,

theres even probably only a few NETWORKS even doing that in adult nowadays.. not to talk of single affiliates

I'd be fucking mind-blown to see an adult affiliate doing 2000+ leads a day. In mainstream, it's not overly exciting to hear about. I know several guys in that ballpark.

In all reality, I'd be surprised if you were able to find more than a half dozen or so affiliates here who can break the 100 joins/day mark, if they really set their mind to it.

andrej_NDC 12-21-2009 01:36 PM

Paid joins and free joins are a big difference...I would need to work hard to send 50 sales a day to some program, but sending even 500-1000 free joins would be much easier.

xxweekxx 12-21-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16669783)
I'd be fucking mind-blown to see an adult affiliate doing 2000+ leads a day. In mainstream, it's not overly exciting to hear about. I know several guys in that ballpark.

In all reality, I'd be surprised if you were able to find more than a half dozen or so affiliates here who can break the 100 joins/day mark, if they really set their mind to it.

right, so escort biz is pulling figures out of his ass.

btw for mainstream thats nothing.lol... i was with a network called convert2media, and they had a google offer than had a daily cap of 2000 leads.

by 8am every morning the cap had already been reached :upsidedow

and this offer pays $40 a pop.. i talked to my network manager and he said nothing they can do.. they had some whale who was killing the cap, ONE guy, doing some crazy ppc/fake news sites/etc..

so thats like $80k in sales before 8am .lol

xxweekxx 12-21-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16669788)
Paid joins and free joins are a big difference...I would need to work hard to send 50 sales a day to some program, but sending even 500-1000 free joins would be much easier.

right, and i still think escort biz is BS'ing, ill repeat..

I HIGHLY DOUBT there is a SINGLE AFFILIATE pushing 2,000 CREDIT CARD JOINS to a program DAILY & CONSISTENTLY.....

in mainstream, thats nothing.. in adult, thats unheard of.. heck some of the big programs here can come and vouch and i doubt they even get 2000 joins across all sites,lol

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-21-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16669690)
Mainstream has some boys doing 6 figures a day in affiliate sales....

I've heard some hearsay from a fairly reliable source that clickbooth has 5 affiliates breaking the $500k/day point. Wowz...

xxweekxx 12-21-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16669803)
I've heard some hearsay from a fairly reliable source that clickbooth has 5 affiliates breaking the $500k/day point. Wowz...

totally believable.. i am in mainstream, any my average EPC is $2.50 or so...

theres offers with $3-4epc

reason it converts so well, and the advertisers can pay $40 for a completely free trial, its the shady billing, with terms like these:

If you do not cancel before the end of your 3 day trial period, we will continue your access to the program and charge you a monthly
fee of $79.40 every thirty four (34) days thereafter until you choose to cancel your membership. No further notice will be sent to you. For this offer s & h is in reference to instant access
that is obtained via email upon completion of order. An additional one time $144.40 fee will be billed 3 days from the date of your initial registration and purchase

EscortBiz 12-21-2009 01:46 PM

this "in mainstream" crap needs to stop already, the grass is always greener on the other side, mainstream guys are yelling that the porn guys are making the money.

yes there are guys in this business not program owners who send 2000+ joins a day to a mix of different adult related programs paysites and adult products / dating.

camperjohn64 12-21-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wdsguy (Post 16667708)
I do 100 sales a day but its on mainstream.

So if each signup is $75, you making $7500 a day? Hmmm...

What you promoting?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-21-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 16669790)
i was with a network called convert2media, and they had a google offer than had a daily cap of 2000 leads.

i know ruck and steve a little bit. c2m is a good network.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-21-2009 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16669820)
this "in mainstream" crap needs to stop already, the grass is always greener on the other side, mainstream guys are yelling that the porn guys are making the money.

i have not once ever seen a mainstream guy yell "those porn guys are making more money". not once....

JFK 12-21-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16669836)
i have not once ever seen a mainstream guy yell "those porn guys are making more money". not once....

are you keeping your ears open ?:winkwink:

xxweekxx 12-21-2009 01:52 PM

yeah they are good guys.. they paid me 6 figs this year..

and escortbiz mainstream is SUCH an easier sell, cuz its a way bigger market.. it does make money.. when was the last time an adult website got epcs of $4 off google traffic

you are diverting with the 2000 joins, any idiot can send 2000 free dating joins.. this wasnt what the topic was about.. stop skirting around it. like i said

I DOUBT any affiliate today is sending 2000 CREDIT CARD/PAID JOINS to a program today..

EscortBiz 12-21-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16669836)
i have not once ever seen a mainstream guy yell "those porn guys are making more money". not once....

you kidding me? the whole planet every business person in non adult walks around talking how porn dont get effected by anything, recession free

please

again ill repeat there are guys in this business doing more than 2000 sales a day, I dont make more or less money if you believe me or not, im just stating the facts

EscortBiz 12-21-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 16669847)
yeah they are good guys.. they paid me 6 figs this year..

and escortbiz mainstream is SUCH an easier sell, cuz its a way bigger market.. it does make money.. when was the last time an adult website got epcs of $4 off google traffic

you are diverting with the 2000 joins, any idiot can send 2000 free dating joins.. this wasnt what the topic was about.. stop skirting around it. like i said

I DOUBT any affiliate today is sending 2000 CREDIT CARD/PAID JOINS to a program today..

2000 paid joins or paid for a product adult related,

mainstream is a easier sell and 5000 times harder to get the traffic, I do this for over 10 years now, I see numbers and facts not bullshit stories

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-21-2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16669846)
are you keeping your ears open ?:winkwink:

ya, and i haven't seen anyone say it, ESPECIALLY anyone who has promoted both.

at my best point promoting adult i was doing 4-5 joins a day to paysites, and this was after like 2-3 years of fiddling around with things. i've only recently passed the 1 year mark since i started promoting adult, and I do 10x that. i'm still no guru by any means, but any idiot can see mainstream is a WAY easier sell with a way broader market.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-21-2009 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16669858)
and 5000 times harder to get the traffic

stick to adult then... no one is gonna argue with you. if you're doing better with adult, or making bank with adult and think adult is the place to be, go with it man. but all traffic numbers aside, i still find making money with mainstream products waaaaaay easier. but that's just me and my experience.

TheDoc 12-21-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16669820)
this "in mainstream" crap needs to stop already, the grass is always greener on the other side, mainstream guys are yelling that the porn guys are making the money.

yes there are guys in this business not program owners who send 2000+ joins a day to a mix of different adult related programs paysites and adult products / dating.

The grass for sure, IS NOT greener on the mainstream side... but it's for sure a MUCH larger field. The affiliate programs in mainstream are bigger than our processors.....

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Personally, I have never met anyone doing over a few hundred sales a day that didn't own many of the products they made sales on. I would have to say... if "an affiliate" produce 2k+ sales a day and didn't own the products, they're an idiot and losing millions. :2 cents:

fuzebox 12-21-2009 02:01 PM

When people talk about affiliates this size, they are obviously not referring to gallery submitters, TGP owners, niche bloggers, etc... People need to realize that.

There are many ways of sending huge traffic that most people on this board have never even heard of.

xxweekxx 12-21-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16669858)
2000 paid joins or paid for a product adult related,

mainstream is a easier sell and 5000 times harder to get the traffic, I do this for over 10 years now, I see numbers and facts not bullshit stories

eh ok man. ive been here for many years too.. adult was getting me nowhere, i moved to mainstream and im doing $xxx,xxx in revenue a month...

mainstream is EASY to get traffic.. ppc, media buys, email campaigns, all make money..

and once again you skip the question... your reply "2000 paid joins or paid for a product adult related", DUH of course people are doing 2000 joins for "adult related" products..

what THIS THEAD was for is affiliates pushing traffic to AFFILIATE PROGRAMS, basically porn..

so tell us once again, you sure there are single affiliates who are sending 2,000 PAID JOINS to ADULT WEBSITES daily? and consistently? someone must have lied to you..

can a big program come here and chime in that none of their affiliates are sending 60,000 joins a month consistently for the past few months/yrs

2012 12-21-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16669864)
but any idiot can see mainstream is a WAY easier sell with a way broader market.

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EscortBiz 12-21-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16669864)
ya, and i haven't seen anyone say it, ESPECIALLY anyone who has promoted both.

at my best point promoting adult i was doing 4-5 joins a day to paysites, and this was after like 2-3 years of fiddling around with things. i've only recently passed the 1 year mark since i started promoting adult, and I do 10x that. i'm still no guru by any means, but any idiot can see mainstream is a WAY easier sell with a way broader market.

"at my best point promoting adult i was doing 4-5 joins a day to paysites, and this was after like 2-3 years of fiddling around with things."

you must be stupid, sorry

Roald 12-21-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 16669883)
There are many ways of sending huge traffic that most people on this board have never even heard of.

Fuck man, when we started flyering at the wallmart parking lot our sales trippled over night!

EscortBiz 12-21-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16669878)
stick to adult then... no one is gonna argue with you. if you're doing better with adult, or making bank with adult and think adult is the place to be, go with it man. but all traffic numbers aside, i still find making money with mainstream products waaaaaay easier. but that's just me and my experience.

I do mainstream lol damn you people

xxweekxx 12-21-2009 02:06 PM

mainstream is A MUCH LARGER Playing field.. when im pushing a cpa offer like a make money at home kit, and im converting say 1:20, then m like wtf is wrong, normal conversions are lower.. basically any offer im making less than $2 per click i pull

and yeah fuze you are right, theres guys doing lots of joins with blackhat shit, but yet again, do you know of ANYONE who is honestly sending 2,000 PAID memberships to an affiliate program consistently day in and day out?

i dont, the doc doesnt either... so do you?

EscortBiz 12-21-2009 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 16669894)
eh ok man. ive been here for many years too.. adult was getting me nowhere, i moved to mainstream and im doing $xxx,xxx in revenue a month...

mainstream is EASY to get traffic.. ppc, media buys, email campaigns, all make money..

and once again you skip the question... your reply "2000 paid joins or paid for a product adult related", DUH of course people are doing 2000 joins for "adult related" products..

what THIS THEAD was for is affiliates pushing traffic to AFFILIATE PROGRAMS, basically porn..

so tell us once again, you sure there are single affiliates who are sending 2,000 PAID JOINS to ADULT WEBSITES daily? and consistently? someone must have lied to you..

can a big program come here and chime in that none of their affiliates are sending 60,000 joins a month consistently for the past few months/yrs

"there are single affiliates who are sending 2,000 PAID JOINS to ADULT WEBSITES daily and consistently"

no one lied to me

TheDoc 12-21-2009 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 16669894)
eh ok man. ive been here for many years too.. adult was getting me nowhere, i moved to mainstream and im doing $xxx,xxx in revenue a month...

mainstream is EASY to get traffic.. ppc, media buys, email campaigns, all make money..

and once again you skip the question... your reply "2000 paid joins or paid for a product adult related", DUH of course people are doing 2000 joins for "adult related" products..

what THIS THEAD was for is affiliates pushing traffic to AFFILIATE PROGRAMS, basically porn..

so tell us once again, you sure there are single affiliates who are sending 2,000 PAID JOINS to ADULT WEBSITES daily? and consistently? someone must have lied to you..

can a big program come here and chime in that none of their affiliates are sending 60,000 joins a month consistently for the past few months/yrs


Many many years back I made a post here on GFY, it included the break down of how paysites make money... and it said Emails were worth like $10 or $15 value, anyway..

Current day, adult emails for sure aren't worth that or even close to that.

But my mainstream emails, "every opt-in" is worth just under $15.... I earn on average $1 for every opt-in before I send an email. Not very expensive products either... but enough to slow people down.

The niche in mainstream, is GOD!

In adult, traffic is god...

What I think at least.... through enough shit traffic at porn and you make money. Select the wrong niche in mainstream you can send a billion hits and not make a dime.

xxweekxx 12-21-2009 02:07 PM

ALso i'll chime in the guys making big money from mainstream are basically emailing.lol its so easy a caveman can do it :)

Get stedb/volomp, get some quality lists, and mail can spam compliant all day.. can easily do 4-5 figures without trying.. try that with adult...

Roald 12-21-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 16669894)
eh ok man. ive been here for many years too.. adult was getting me nowhere, i moved to mainstream and im doing $xxx,xxx in revenue a month...

mainstream is EASY to get traffic.. ppc, media buys, email campaigns, all make money..

and once again you skip the question... your reply "2000 paid joins or paid for a product adult related", DUH of course people are doing 2000 joins for "adult related" products..

what THIS THEAD was for is affiliates pushing traffic to AFFILIATE PROGRAMS, basically porn..

so tell us once again, you sure there are single affiliates who are sending 2,000 PAID JOINS to ADULT WEBSITES daily? and consistently? someone must have lied to you..

can a big program come here and chime in that none of their affiliates are sending 60,000 joins a month consistently for the past few months/yrs

Re-read his posts :2 cents:

xxweekxx 12-21-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16669921)
Many many years back I made a post here on GFY, it included the break down of how paysites make money... and it said Emails were worth like $10 or $15 value, anyway..

Current day, adult emails for sure aren't worth that or even close to that.

But my mainstream emails, "every opt-in" is worth just under $15.... I earn on average $1 for every opt-in before I send an email.

The niche in mainstream, is GOD!

In adult, traffic is god...

What I think at least.... through enough shit traffic at porn and you make money. Select the wrong niche in mainstream you can send a billion hits and not make a dime.

yup i agree. i have a nice targeted list i do mainstream with, and ive made high 6 figs this year from it.. just keep pushing general offers like make money at home, teeth whitening, home biz hit, etc..

OK i am tired of arguing, you win, yeah sure there are affiliates who are sending 2000 paid joins to porn sites daily.

please tell me what program they are sending to? because you can count on hand hand, the affiliate programs in adult who even see 1000 joins daily

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-21-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16669900)
you must be stupid, sorry

and stupid is doing quite well with mainstream right now, so point proven.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-21-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16669912)
I do mainstream lol damn you people

and you still think adult is an easier buck?

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-21-2009 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 16669883)
When people talk about affiliates this size, they are obviously not referring to gallery submitters, TGP owners, niche bloggers, etc... People need to realize that.

There are many ways of sending huge traffic that most people on this board have never even heard of.

That is VERY well said and so TRUE!

will76 12-21-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16669495)
guys who do volume are the type who seek you out not the other way around, and yes even in these days there are guys doing 2000+ joins daily

guy(s) doing 2,000+ CREDIT CARD joins a day??? I guess if you counting rebills, every "transaction" like with a cam site where 1 person might make (10) $25 buys in 1 day etc.... I was thinking NEW Sales, If there are guys out there doing 2,000+ NEW Credit Card Joins a day, I would like to meet both of them LOL....

2000 new joins x $50 = $100,000 a day. $36,500,000 a year... you sure about that... affiliates not big program owners???

andrej_NDC 12-21-2009 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16669917)
"there are single affiliates who are sending 2,000 PAID JOINS to ADULT WEBSITES daily and consistently"

no one lied to me

There can be, but they aren't making those joins at paysites...dating, maybe...cams, maybe...paysites, no.

fuzebox 12-21-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 16669913)
and yeah fuze you are right, theres guys doing lots of joins with blackhat shit, but yet again, do you know of ANYONE who is honestly sending 2,000 PAID memberships to an affiliate program consistently day in and day out?

i dont, the doc doesnt either... so do you?

I was responding to the original topic and people talking about 100 joins a day. Don't drag me into this 2000 join a day catfight.

TheDoc 12-21-2009 03:41 PM

Truly, I think anything is possible, online sales wise. Even if I haven't seen it or heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Even though it doesn't sound very logical...

I thought at one time I had a lot of domains registered, until I found someone with 10x what I had... then I found someone with 1 million + registered domains.

After that... I said screw it, anything is possible online.

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-21-2009 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16670489)
Truly, I think anything is possible, online sales wise. Even if I haven't seen it or heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Even though it doesn't sound very logical...

I thought at one time I had a lot of domains registered, until I found someone with 10x what I had... then I found someone with 1 million + registered domains.

After that... I said screw it, anything is possible online.

In this business, anything is possible!!!


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