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Jim_Gunn 01-09-2010 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RTP (Post 16731066)
this is why when i saw this post my first question was where is/was your agent or if you were doing it yourself. agency contract has kill fees etc and also on the other side model no shows built in on it. anyways good choice with gs and joel

dont do it alone :2 cents::

p.s. this was prob a "look-see" you went to

You mean a "go-see". Did you actually read the thread? She already explained in exquisite detail that she was booked for a shoot, not a go-see.

weekly 01-09-2010 10:30 AM

Bottom line on this, is that this biz developed with a bunch of lucky amateurs making a bunch of lucky money. It is not an industry that has any organized history with industry standard rules and industry accepted behaviour. Its kind of a mosh pit in the world of business and the standard is whatever you can get away with.
In this case, a rather unprofessional company dissed a girl and lied to her. Plain and simple. Its a pimp attitude, not a business attitude.
But the fact is, nothing will change.

magpan 01-09-2010 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 16729216)
This is GFY!! One typo invalidates your entire post!

Xactley. :thumbsup

SarahLLO 01-09-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16730820)
Crown Royal Whisky is distilled in Gimli, Canada at the Gimli Distillery.
Located on the western shore of Lake Winnipeg in Manitoba, Gimli has the natural resources that are key to making Crown Royal's blend.

Natural local grains, a pure water source and a climate that supports the distilling process all come together to contribute to the smoothness and quality of this excellent whisky.

Gimli, Canada was named one of the most livable communities in the world and is recognized as one of the 20 great places to live in Canada.

Gimli is an ideal lakefront setting, and boasts countless outdoor and cultural activities. In Gimli, the Crown Royal Whisky distillery produces enough whisky to fill 1,000 barrels each day.



so the point is I just proved you're an idiot.

:P


it is also a small dwarven man w/a big axe

BlackCrayon 01-09-2010 10:51 AM

i want to fuck smokie flame.

weekly 01-09-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SarahLLO (Post 16731692)
it is also a small dwarven man w/a big axe

Its also Winnipeg. Home of "theatre in the cemetery" and other rib slapping things to do when the temperature gets above -30, in that brief period before the mosquito invasion and the Hawaiian shirts are replaced by bug suits.
Highlight of Winnipgeg.....a tour of the Royal Canadian Mint and coffee bar.

stever 01-09-2010 11:07 AM

did someone say ethics and porn company in the same thread?

mechanicvirus 01-09-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16731670)
Bottom line on this, is that this biz developed with a bunch of lucky amateurs making a bunch of lucky money. It is not an industry that has any organized history with industry standard rules and industry accepted behaviour. Its kind of a mosh pit in the world of business and the standard is whatever you can get away with.
In this case, a rather unprofessional company dissed a girl and lied to her. Plain and simple. Its a pimp attitude, not a business attitude.
But the fact is, nothing will change.

i like how nobody gets this after decades of the business repeating the same shady cycles :helpme:):2 cents::thumbsup:upsidedow:zzwhip:food-smil02:GFYBand:GFYBand

Smokieflame 01-09-2010 12:36 PM

I have cute feet thank you very much!

Yes that is my cam profile

Im rather surprised no one from RK has posted since this is now 4 pages long in less then 24 hours. RK must know they have some real douches working for them

weekly 01-09-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 16731983)
I have cute feet thank you very much!

Yes that is my cam profile

Im rather surprised no one from RK has posted since this is now 4 pages long in less then 24 hours. RK must know they have some real douches working for them

My guess is that RK does not pay them enough.....

Robert Day 01-09-2010 01:22 PM

I will let you in on a little secret. Reality Kings was not in Arizona, there those who pose as Reality Kings through Craigslist and well you fell for it.

I also love how Playboy always comes to Phoenix on CL as well. It makes me laugh when you models fall for it.

ArsewithClass 01-09-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16731986)
My guess is that RK does not pay them enough.....

If your going to do a job you do it right no matter the pay.

My bank gives excellant service and do not mess me about, yet they dont get paid enough :2 cents:

weekly 01-09-2010 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732052)
I will let you in on a little secret. Reality Kings was not in Arizona, there those who pose as Reality Kings through Craigslist and well you fell for it.

I also love how Playboy always comes to Phoenix on CL as well. It makes me laugh when you models fall for it.

and you know this how?

Quagmire 01-09-2010 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16730820)
Crown Royal Whisky is distilled in Gimli, Canada at the Gimli Distillery.
Located on the western shore of Lake Winnipeg in Manitoba, Gimli has the natural resources that are key to making Crown Royal's blend.

Natural local grains, a pure water source and a climate that supports the distilling process all come together to contribute to the smoothness and quality of this excellent whisky.

Gimli, Canada was named one of the most livable communities in the world and is recognized as one of the 20 great places to live in Canada.

Gimli is an ideal lakefront setting, and boasts countless outdoor and cultural activities. In Gimli, the Crown Royal Whisky distillery produces enough whisky to fill 1,000 barrels each day.



so the point is I just proved you're an idiot.

:P

bah, some PR dork wrote that crap to convince people that Gimli wasn't some podunk hick town in the middle of nowhere. It is still blended and bottled in Amherstberg, Ontario to this day and is more Canadian than hockey, irritating french people and indian land claims combined. :winkwink:

Quagmire 01-09-2010 02:14 PM

ok yeah, and aside from whisky, i want to poke Smokie in the meatflaps.

Smokieflame 01-09-2010 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732052)
I will let you in on a little secret. Reality Kings was not in Arizona, there those who pose as Reality Kings through Craigslist and well you fell for it.

I also love how Playboy always comes to Phoenix on CL as well. It makes me laugh when you models fall for it.

Um ok what ever dude, I met the producer OH AND I met the Hostess of the website, go look at the site you can see her, really hot brunette... It was RK, so how about you get your facts straight dude. If you had read my past posts in here you would have read that I MET THEM!

Deej 01-09-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 16732282)
Um ok what ever dude, I met the producer OH AND I met the Hostess of the website, go look at the site you can see her, really hot brunette... It was RK, so how about you get your facts straight dude. If you had read my past posts in here you would have read that I MET THEM!

the dude is just trolling smokie, dont play into it...

weekly 01-09-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16732309)
the dude is just trolling smokie, dont play into it...

This guy doesn't know shit from Shinola.

Quagmire 01-09-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 16732282)
Um ok what ever dude, I met the producer OH AND I met the Hostess of the website, go look at the site you can see her, really hot brunette... It was RK, so how about you get your facts straight dude. If you had read my past posts in here you would have read that I MET THEM!

Don't feed the troll Smokie, he just comes back for more.

Anyone who claims to be multi-billionaire Robert Day (in another thread) and hangs out on GFY posting obviously has a few screws loose.

AaliyahLove 01-09-2010 04:16 PM

Well I tried to do the right thing and read the entire thread before posting, so I scrolled down all of page 3 and didn't see anything about Smokie..so I gave up..sorry if I repeat anything here..

I feel for you girl, I know how much time and effort it takes to get ready for a shoot! a week before I start tanning, you have to get your nails done the day before, packing your bags with all the right outfits and toys, make sure your hair has been done in the last 2-3 weeks, for me I have to find a dogsitter, getting your makeup and hair just right the day of the shoot.. to sit around for NOTHING, not even a KILL FEE? What did they say to you when they basically told you "Sorry you sat here for nothing all day, go home now" were they at least apologetic? (not that it matters WHAT they said, the right thing would of been to pay a kill fee, your time is just as valuable as theirs!!)
And I'm sure you had better things to do that day. How unprofessional. Maybe it's better you didn't get shot so you have no involvement, except for this thread, with such a crappy company that treats it's models like shit! I'll def never shoot with them after reading this.

donteattuna 01-09-2010 05:32 PM

It was wrong. Morally and legally. Jim Gunn and other said it above.
I must be an expert legal adviser...because I've seen those judge shows on TV many times :winkwink:
But I've learned by that they basically entered into a contract, by agreeing to do xxx for $$$ at said place and time. When THEY broke they contract, they are liable for some lost $$. There would be no "kill fee" if it weren't morally and legally proper.
I completely understand casting or a look-see to see if the girl looks anything like the description. I bought lunch for a group I had to turn away on those conditions. The agent somewhat assured them of work, but they weren't in my niche (aka too old and unattractive). Smokie explained this was not a casting or application or interview, that had already been completed earlier, and they provided a job offer which she went to. Yes no doubt whatsoever she is entitled to some amount of kill fee $. If e.g. they apologized and re-booked her for the next day it would still suck, but might lessen their moral and legal obligations to $.
Producers who don't agree are wrong. Those who didn't understand the scenario should have read more before passing judgment.
On the flip side, yes, it is too bad producers can't easily collect from the models that also enter into those contracts and f^k us over by no show, being drunk etc. Somehow I don't imagine many judges having sympathy for the producers cases though.

BlackCrayon 01-09-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 16731983)
I have cute feet thank you very much!

i'm convinced

http://www.spankwire.com/Smokie-Flam...t/video144532/

Kard63 01-09-2010 05:44 PM

mechanicvirus - is that a boy's butt in your avatar?


BTW that was uncool of RK.

ArsewithClass 01-09-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 16732628)
mechanicvirus - is that a boy's butt in your avatar?


BTW that was uncool of RK.

I thought that birds arse in mechanicvirus avatar was pretty tidy :2 cents:

Whats yours? I was trying to work it out earlier.

LoveSandra 01-10-2010 01:29 AM

that sucks

ninavain 01-10-2010 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16730710)
Considering your present circumstances, I would say that your opinion on this is fairly useless. Hell I am better than you. I am not bankrupt. Anyone that is not bankrupt is better than you. Bankrupt is an admission of total failure in life. If anyone disagrees, then you need a moral compass. BTW, you should ignore my post because anything you say will make it worse. Sig whoring is not an option.

he disagrees
How Does Trump Repeatedly File for Bankruptcy and Still Stay on Top?
http://www.legalzoom.com/legal-artic...epeatedly.html
http://margotmystic.files.wordpress....nald-trump.jpg

weekly 01-10-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 16733273)
he disagrees
How Does Trump Repeatedly File for Bankruptcy and Still Stay on Top?
http://www.legalzoom.com/legal-artic...epeatedly.html
http://margotmystic.files.wordpress....nald-trump.jpg

That was the most predictable post in this thread.....
Think about that for a second....

Iron Fist 01-10-2010 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16731715)
Highlight of Winnipgeg.....a tour of the Royal Canadian Mint and coffee bar.

We have a coffee bar? :helpme

donteattuna 01-10-2010 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 16733273)
he disagrees
How Does Trump Repeatedly File for Bankruptcy and Still Stay on Top?
http://www.legalzoom.com/legal-artic...epeatedly.html

ummm he doesnt stay on top. the only thing on top is a bad combover :1orglaugh
he stays in the limelight, that is all part of his method of getting investors and loans.
so, your saying if sleezy gets a bad combover and changes his name from sleezy to trumpcard he can also be rich and famous, err uh i mean bankrupt and famous with a tv show :helpme

i dont even know if that post was in sleezy's defense or not? maybe they both had the word bankrupcy in common :error

Nicky 01-10-2010 05:26 PM

I miss Penny Flame :(

mechanicvirus 01-10-2010 07:05 PM

bump for answers

- no its not a boys butt, o ris it? i dunno.. only jesus knows

sinclair 01-10-2010 09:20 PM

Welcome to Miami.

Could have been worse you could have been told by an a "agent" that you had $5K of work booked, covered your own expense to fly and stay there only to find all your shoots canceled. "But hey how about doing some webcam shows or a private or two to cover your costs?"

Sinclair

Smokieflame 01-11-2010 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sinclair (Post 16735222)
Welcome to Miami.

Could have been worse you could have been told by an a "agent" that you had $5K of work booked, covered your own expense to fly and stay there only to find all your shoots canceled. "But hey how about doing some webcam shows or a private or two to cover your costs?"

Sinclair

I went to Vegas once, wasn't just me either, girls where booked thru agents, make up artst, producers, full crews all showed up to this shoot. And the guy who owned the house had no idea what was going on. This was like 3 years ago. Sadly this shit happens all the time, but from a company like RK its unacceptable.

RTP 01-12-2010 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 16731658)
You mean a "go-see". Did you actually read the thread? She already explained in exquisite detail that she was booked for a shoot, not a go-see.

Yes, I meant go see...I read the part where she explained she was casted by a external casting guy and not booked through an agency, but thank you for the LOOK and GO correction

Raf1 01-12-2010 02:47 AM

yeah, there should be a kill fee if a company wastes time like that. From what I understand they didn't show up for casting, but to do the actual work...


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