hahahah wonder if WideReceiver.com will be a gay gangbang site :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

So what did camsex.com eventually sell for?

ok so what did camsex sell for? I think I saw Hell.com on that list as well. Did that sell?

$250K reserve, my guess is it sold for NO BIDS

oh shit - if somebody offered me 100K for camsex.com i'd take the money and run.

im really looking forward to seeing the white label. Gets me all tingly :)


Sabby:)

I just looked at a huge 2 bedroom 2 bathroom co-op in Riverdale which is one of nicest areas of the Bronx, its going for 259K 850 a month maintenance...the same price as your domain. :)

Really??? Even I think it's worth more than 15k.

The thing about white labels is you've seen one, seen them all

So camsex.com didn't sell?

Hmmm seems like camgirls.com really is the category killer...

RIP type in cam domains.

:2 cents:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22ca...22cam+girls%22

Put your trust in numbers :2 cents:

CamSex.com/CamSex.mobi/CamSex.biz/CamSex.name are in the extended auction - there have been many offers, but many had too short time to get financing in place (its typical not the very top companies in an industry that buys good domains, but those small to medium companies that can see their current business plan + a killer domain = putting them in top).

Hell.com did not sell - have no idea what industry will be able monetize it (well except the catholic church :winkwink:)

Nice - now does your potential new house put money in your pocket, and is the maintenance close to nothing? :)

I think you missed my point. I didn't mean camgirls was the category killer domain name (as he constantly claims), I meant that he had KILLED THE CATEGORY of "valuable type in cam domains" with his public inability to monetize his and that is making bidders question the true "value" of a type-in cam domain and whether it is worth blowing the big bucks on them.

For me camsex.com is the better of the two, and if you had put it up before camgirls I think you would have sold it a lot easier.

Just :2 cents: from a non premium domain buyer.

what do you think camsex.com is worth - i mean a BIN price that would definitely get a buyer in short order.

100K?

Sounds like it is the place to be.

Interesting observation that cam_girls is making it harder to sell good domains - I disagree, but there is probably no way to find out (unless we can poll interested buyers if they are affraid ending up as cam_girls, if they buy a killer domain :winkwink:).

The price tag on Cam Sex does make the number of potential buyers smaller. This group mainly consist of companies that have already made money in adult (cam networks looking to expand, paysite/traffic programs looking to diversify, and active domainers/investors looking for assets). Compared to this group, then I think cam_girls is the statistical abnormality, not the normality, which I guess is why so many are drawn to his posts.

A good domain is still a good domain - no matter who owns it. Personally I hope the new owner of CamSex.com/CamSex.mobi/CamSex.biz/CamSex.name will be able to fully monetizing the potential (btw. the same goes for CamGirls.com). However if they are not, then there are plenty of others who will be willing to take over, and run with it.

sorry for killing your sale Bossman, next time I'll post some pics of my sportscar and go RAR RAR RAR I'm a fucking stallion.


http://m00.com/blue.jpg


Check out the number plate

There have been made offers in the 6 figure range, however this is an auction, so there is no BIN on the table, just a reserve which is doable for most (meaning if the bidder does not have all cash on hand for the buy, then its possible to financing parts or the entire bid, and then pay interest and principal over a time periode of months or years - qualifying for financing today is a bit harder due to the current state of the financial markets, but for solid companies its an option, if they don´t have all cash at hand).

Anyone who is interested in CamSex.com/CamSex.mobi/CamSex.biz/CamSex.name, but need financing should get in contact with David (david AT ricklatona.com) or hit me up if they are looking for experience using domain financing :)

Thats ok - you just need a way to monetize your ability to draw negative attention - ex. ever thought about doing a reverse stock promoting newsletter, where your subscribers will do the exact opposite trades that you recommend? :winkwink:

no I'll stick with the camgirl business, I'm no quitter!

Look you made post number 101

Labor omnia vincit :winkwink:

yes boss

Great domain.....

Here are the domain auction results if anyones interested Las Vegas Domain Auction

dont get me wrong I really like your domain, but what has been proven on this board the last couple of months is that you need more then just a great domain name to make a lot of money.

Your domain is perfect for a company already in place that has a successful affiliate program with money to promote...and I have no doubt you will make good money on the sale.

I agree... look at PimpRoll they have been buying up amazing domains (Porn.com, LiveCams.com, MatureWomen.com, TeenGirls.com, Tranny.com etc.) which have not only diversified their business, but also given them some solid brands for the future. They have the organization to monetize their potential, but also the size where they can do it at their own speed. This is the adaptability which will ensure PimpRoll will outlive many other programs as the industry evolves.

Another great example was Streamray, and when they bought Cams.com, which helped them take their existing cam business to the next level.

Its like everything else in life - its the sum of things from which new things emerge.

I bought a house for $240k sold 3 years later for $460k... then moved and bought another house for $220k sold a year later for $300k. Real estate was good to me.

I think domain values are depreciating?? (I mean if you buy it from an auction NOW? not when you got it in 1995 for 15 bucks.) Plus personally I wouldnt know what to do with it. I can make traffic with shit domains.


Sabby:)

I think streamray just kicks ass cause its an awesome site!!!


Sabby:) (aka PrettyMilfy)

Wow that is good profits and timing...we are looking at the co-op again tomorrow, if the wife says she wants it...I will offer 190-210k, the real estate agent is an old time handball player from my park. For 15 years I seen him around but never new he owned one of the top real estate agencies in the area. Hopefully he can make a deal happen.

Most people are telling me it is the wrong time to spend money and wait until things get better. Just like the stock market when everyone thinks the worst and selling....all the smart investors are buying. So I want to buy if I can get a great deal. It is a jump for me since I only pay around $575 rent at the moment...I had a real hookup for the last 17 years.

As far as domains...I am rotating them, letting the weaker ones expire if I cannot sell them. I am also buying domains I like, also some great names are dropping everyday. I just picked up JapaneseUncensored .com :thumbsup I am trying to reduce the quantity also....renewals on a thousand names....oouch.

good luck

Yes, the cam sex domains are making sales every day at around $0.23/unique (gross - meaning before affiliate payouts, model costs, processing etc.) on what alot of people are calling "the hardest whitelable to convert". It would be even better if Streamray didn´t black list so many countries around the world from buying. Cam sex is an international understood term/verb/noun, so the domains get typins from 120+ countries around the world, where many of them are black listed by Streamray, so if we don´t count all of the traffic from countries Streamray have black listed, then the cam sex domains are making closer to $0.40+/unique gross, which I think is acceptable :) ... before anyone ask, then most of the traffic to the domains is typin traffic (75%).

Btw - looking good :thumbsup

The good adult .com´s are not falling in price - there was a high around 3 years ago, but over the last years domains have already dropped (IMHO - the cam sex domains are worth much more than what we are asking, but this is adult, so not many are thinking longer than 1-2 years, which devalues the realistic asking price - funny how the sky is always falling in adult, yet here we are :winkwink:).

Also not all domains are created equal - ex. Cam Sex is an acutal verb and noun, its already in the cam language/slang itself and its spreading as more and more people get cams connected to their PCs and smart phones with build in cams, so even if there was no CamSex.com/CamSex.mobi etc., then people would still be asking for and having cam sex with each other. Thats the real power of the cam sex domains many are overlooking - that people around the world are active promoting Cam Sex - even without having any idea that there is a CamSex.com/CamSex.mobi/CamSex.biz/CamSex.name out there.

With cam clients such as Skype, MSN etc. then every day new people are discovering cam sex, and when the smart phones get decent front cams another rush will set in (thats why we got CamSex.mobi).

If the 80s and 90s had phone sex, then the 00s and 10s have cam sex. Plus the cam networks are discovering that they are sitting on a gold mine, when it comes to future content production - thousands of models in a decentralized grid with their own equipment (yes, most of it looks like shit, but that just adds to the amateurish or GF experience many people are looking for online). Paysite programs not diversified into the cam business will be missing the boat - thats why the big programs are buying up good domains for their cam sites (bang bros = naked.com, pimproll = livecams.com etc.).

Now CamSex.com is for sale - and someone will seize the opportunity, someone who know that the sky is only falling on those that run for cover, while the sky is only the limit for those that continue to evolve their business :thumbsup

:eyecrazy

The Extended Auction for CamSex.com/CamSex.mobi/CamSex.biz/CamSex.name is live:

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetai...86&lid=7111906

Contrary to the live auction, then its possible to bid below the reserve price in the extended auction, so there is no discrimination on 4, 5 or 6 figure offers :thumbsup

If there are any questions about the Cam Sex domains or if financing is needed, then let me know :thumbsup

Smacks of desperation.

Great domain, but seriously, 1/4 mill for it in this day and age, good luck.

Huh? Domains not sold at the live auction are automatically enrolled in the extended auction... its normal procedure, and now everyone have a place to bid :)

Also without knowing the numbers, then how can you tell if the reserve is too high? You think PimpRoll (livecams.com $500K) was a desperate buyer or calculated business people?

Ex. live cams vs. cam sex

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22li...ate=all&sort=0

Remember price and value are too different things. Something might be much more valuable to you, than it is to me, and vice versa :2 cents: :)

I think any individual or company that has the means to buy camsex.com and has followed the camgirls.com saga is going to realize that the main reason for its failure so far has more to do with its owner than the domain. Most thought that paying 350k for camgirls.com was way too high. If you factor that sale in along with 500k for livecams.com, then certainly 250k reserve for camsex.com is justifiable. I've always gone by the saying that a domain is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, so we'll certainly find out what camsex.com is worth.

So what is your net $/unique? I'm not a big fan of Streamray, having done numerous tests with different cam programs over the last 10 years, they've always ranked near the bottom in terms of $/unique. Why not try AWE's white label, you won't have any blacked out countries and their 10 different payment methods ensures that all of your traffic will be convertible. I don't usually suggest AWE, but they seem appropriate for your traffic and I'd bet your net $/unique would double within a month.

Have thought about doing some A/B traffic split tests, but not gotten around to do it... however since people in general are very focused on current money earned, then I might take the time to squeeze more money from the traffic, just to prove that there is alot more gold in the hills - of course I (and potential buyers) run the "risk" that I might find a massive gold ore, and the price will go up :winkwink:

Streamray' s payout to affiliates is 20-35% depending on the amount of new members per day, which would mean net ~$0.05-$0.08 (the gross $0.23/unique is an average based on 1 years stats, so some periodes are better/worse than others - ex. in the last 4 days the gross income has been $0.48/unique - including the black listed country traffic). Truthful I´m not a fan of the streamray´s program nor am I a hater - have used it more as a parking page/service than a moneyspinner, while we were working on other projects.

Now we are selling CamSex.com/CamSex.mobi/CamSex.biz/CamSex.name, and being judged also on how the streamray program function kinda makes me wish we had "parked" the domains somewhere else. It was more or less random that it was Streamray and not some other whitelable. I wonder if we were making "double" on the current traffic by using a different whitelable, if people would go from being in shock about the price, to move on to a more rational discussion about the possiblities and future of the cam industry, because its the future of Cam Sex that is for sale - not its past. Our skills in monetizing the domains doesn´t effect a future buyer, instead its his/her/their own skills that is going to monetizing the domains.