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HandballJim 01-28-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16790632)

850 a month maintenance...:eyecrazy

this is NYC not bum fuck Idaho :pimp

Bossman 01-28-2010 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 16791580)
Most thought that paying 350k for camgirls.com was way too high. If you factor that sale in along with 500k for livecams.com, then certainly 250k reserve for camsex.com is justifiable. I've always gone by the saying that a domain is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, so we'll certainly find out what camsex.com is worth.

"Of course" I agree - the reserve was really not set to piss people off, just like the price tag on a fighter jet is not to piss of other people with airplanes. Its was simply a way to put a $ value on the features, which make CamSex.com/CamSex.mobi a better choice than some random gibberish on a small island tld (btw. there are more than 40+ tlds, where Cam Sex is registred, Cam Sex is a true international term/slang). I hope those that buy the domains also have set aside money to make their plan/idea possible - a domain is only part of the equation!

Its not really my place to say who the buyer should be, but I can take a guess that it most likely will be someone that already have a plan to either move their cam business to the next level (like streamray did with cams.com), and need a international category killer domain .com/.mobi/.biz name to accomplish this, or someone who want to diversify into the cam business with a firm position for the future (like pimproll did with livecams.com). Of course there might also be other motives for buying CamSex.com/CamSex.mobi/CamSex.biz/CamSex.name - like I said its really not in my place to say who the buyer should be... we still have capitalism :)

lazycash 01-28-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossman (Post 16791778)
Have thought about doing some A/B traffic split tests, but not gotten around to do it... however since people in general are very focused on current money earned, then I might take the time to squeeze more money from the traffic, just to prove that there is alot more gold in the hills - of course I (and potential buyers) run the "risk" that I might find a massive gold ore, and the price will go up :winkwink:

Streamray' s payout to affiliates is 20-35% depending on the amount of new members per day, which would mean net ~$0.05-$0.08 (the gross $0.23/unique is an average based on 1 years stats, so some periodes are better/worse than others - ex. in the last 4 days the gross income has been $0.48/unique - including the black listed country traffic). Truthful I´m not a fan of the streamray´s program nor am I a hater - have used it more as a parking page/service than a moneyspinner, while we were working on other projects.

Now we are selling CamSex.com/CamSex.mobi/CamSex.biz/CamSex.name, and being judged also on how the streamray program function kinda makes me wish we had "parked" the domains somewhere else. It was more or less random that it was Streamray and not some other whitelable. I wonder if we were making "double" on the current traffic by using a different whitelable, if people would go from being in shock about the price, to move on to a more rational discussion about the possiblities and future of the cam industry, because its the future of Cam Sex that is for sale - not its past. Our skills in monetizing the domains doesn´t effect a future buyer, instead its his/her/their own skills that is going to monetizing the domains.

I wasn't trying to correlate how you are currently monetizing the domain with the sale of it, both are independent as far as I'm concerned. I was just surprised you had the domain with Streamray as I hardly ever see any of the premium cam domains using them. Just for reference, stop quoting any cam stats as "gross", compare apples to apples along with everyone else and state $/unique that show up in your stats. If you don't sell the domain, think about going with a Streamate cobrand like livecams.com is doing. They are very picky on who they let have one, but I think with your domain you'd get approved.

Bossman 01-28-2010 11:31 PM

Imho, Gross numbers are relevant for cam networks since these are the numbers they are working with (they can pocket both their normal cut + the affiliate cut by owning the domain), and large affiliates, because they are able to make even better payout deals.

Thanks about the Streamate suggestion - we did set a stop date, before putting cam sex up for sale, if we cross that date, then the domains will be off the market, and most likely developed inhouse. Companies/People wating for fire sale prices will wait in vain :)

What is your experience as an affiliate sending traffic to a streamate whitelable?

Sabby 01-29-2010 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossman (Post 16790602)
Yes, the cam sex domains are making sales every day at around $0.23/unique (gross - meaning before affiliate payouts, model costs, processing etc.) on what alot of people are calling "the hardest whitelable to convert". It would be even better if Streamray didn´t black list so many countries around the world from buying. Cam sex is an international understood term/verb/noun, so the domains get typins from 120+ countries around the world, where many of them are black listed by Streamray, so if we don´t count all of the traffic from countries Streamray have black listed, then the cam sex domains are making closer to $0.40+/unique gross, which I think is acceptable :) ... before anyone ask, then most of the traffic to the domains is typin traffic (75%).

Btw - looking good :thumbsup

how many hits a day?


Sabby:)

Sabby 01-29-2010 12:26 AM

btw I will blacklist idiots... even if you are American...


Sabby:0

Sabby 01-29-2010 12:52 AM

I have even blacklisted Americans with DOLLARS...

I deserve respect... or you can fuck off.


Sabby:)

Bossman 01-29-2010 02:12 AM

Amount of traffic is not breathtaking amazing, since the domains have never really had any heavy promotion, or ranked high in the SEs for its own term(s). So traffic that has accumulated over the years have been from the typins coming to the domains, which kinda makes it hard to build big numbers (and if people are right about Streamray being bad, then it has probably not been bookmark worthy for many), instead its has a steady number with good conversions :)

Interested buyers should contact me to see the detailed traffic stats (countries, source etc.) :)

Bossman 01-29-2010 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 16793895)
I have even blacklisted Americans with DOLLARS...

I deserve respect... or you can fuck off.


Sabby:)

I think cam networks should hire you as a bouncer/doorman, and stick you on top of their pages :winkwink:

Btw. I´m kinda curious - has the financial crisis decreased people looking for financial domination?

JFK 01-29-2010 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossman (Post 16790683)
The Extended Auction for CamSex.com/CamSex.mobi/CamSex.biz/CamSex.name is live:

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetai...86&lid=7111906

Contrary to the live auction, then its possible to bid below the reserve price in the extended auction, so there is no discrimination on 4, 5 or 6 figure offers :thumbsup

If there are any questions about the Cam Sex domains or if financing is needed, then let me know :thumbsup

The pics from the Live auction and the T.R.A.F.F.I.C. Show Vegas, are on line now at,
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check em out:thumbsup


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