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Iron Fist 01-29-2010 10:24 AM

Fiddy...

mistick 01-29-2010 12:27 PM

sounds great and interesting :thumbsup

Loki 01-29-2010 12:36 PM

IF you want any input on toons (Anime, Hentai, 3D and hand drawn) then let me know and I will gladly throw my 10+ years of skills and tips into the ring.

-Loki-

myjah 01-29-2010 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdc-Loki (Post 16795569)
IF you want any input on toons (Anime, Hentai, 3D and hand drawn) then let me know and I will gladly throw my 10+ years of skills and tips into the ring.

-Loki-

Would love to have you participate. I'll send you an email :)

maccsta 01-29-2010 09:29 PM

Maybe I can re-heat my old swimming pool with this info. Standing by!

Nysus 01-29-2010 09:50 PM

Are you going to allow scammers to submit articles for this? Hopefully you won't help promote such people.

maccsta 01-29-2010 10:01 PM

I'm down for this. Maybe I can retire!

JoshyJ 01-29-2010 10:07 PM

Looking forward to this.

born2blog 01-29-2010 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 16794484)
So the big secrets:

1) cross sales as a business are based on your ability to monetize the sale into a single rebill and then profit on volume (i.e. if you take in 10k cross sales and make 1$ profit per thats 10k$ profit ;))
2) the majority of paysites have little ability to retain members so rely on cross sales out and cam and dating upsales to make profit.
3) the vast majority of paysite programs do under 50 sales a day.
4) most big cross sale programs would do over 1 to 2k sales a day.
5) if your an affiliate and thats your only source of revenue quit now.
6) real sales volume of 100+ sales a day without cross sales means you are a doing something right.
7) tube's havent hurt sales one bit on paysites, anyone who says they have didnt match the facebook and twitter and myspace alexa graphs to their sales.
8) if you think a reality tour or some bs designer who has never run a paysite knows how to make a good tour. You are on crack. Same goes for gallery designers if they dont submit galleries to big sites themselves then why buy from them?
9) your host matters dont go with the cheapest or the most expensive, test them out call them at 2 am and tell them your server is down find out how long it takes for them to get back to you. Check the connectivity and peer network they use.
10) if you run a paysite and use one or two billers, you are making a mistake have 10 mitigate your risk and thruput by adjusting your biller to the sales thru put of the moment.

there you go enjoy.

wow, excellent post :thumbsup

DWB 01-29-2010 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myjah (Post 16791582)
THE RULES:
1) Trolling in GFY Educational Threads will be grounds for immediate banning for one week.

Oh. :disgust Never mind then.

kmanrox 01-29-2010 10:59 PM

with special guest writers, pimpdog, teencat, turboface and theking!

NaughtyRob 01-29-2010 11:32 PM

I like this idea.

Tea Money 01-30-2010 12:05 AM

I'll 'cop a squat' right here

CyberHustler 01-30-2010 01:34 AM

So much change, I just hope GFY isn't jumping the shark...

FruityFoot 01-30-2010 01:38 AM

actually I see no reason for someone to just give away the knowledge he learned on his own for years

but when are we starting?

MaDalton 01-30-2010 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16792040)
Right, because no one on GFY knows jack, I guess.

yaaaawwwwwnnnnnn....

NETbilling 01-30-2010 07:54 AM

Looking forward to participating

bufferover 01-30-2010 07:57 AM

Great news from you guys :winkwink:

Redrob 01-30-2010 08:55 AM

Great idea! I will be an avid reader of the forum.

Kolargol 01-30-2010 11:21 AM

I'm really curious who the info is going to be for (level of experience in adult I mean)

StuartD 01-30-2010 11:46 AM

Funny, this sounds exactly what was started on MP just a few months ago. Has to be a coincidence.

GlobalCorp 01-30-2010 03:30 PM

Outstanding effort! Let's make some moves in a more professional direction.

Kudos

XPays 01-30-2010 07:15 PM

I like this.

groovybusdriver 01-30-2010 11:25 PM

I'll create & contribute a beneficial video on the general, but detailed subject of the importance of RELEVENCY in relation to marketing and it's direct impact on earning $$$,$$$.00 a year.

What do I get in return for such valuable info and rights to video?

Been an affiliate for years, as well as to many of your advertisers and others ;) hit me up, Jeremy - [email protected] or ICQ 138209809

John. 01-30-2010 11:34 PM

Excellent stuff, delighted to see GFY taking steps like this

badpuma 01-31-2010 12:24 AM

Looking forward to this

Roby 01-31-2010 08:12 AM

great topic !!!

emjay 01-31-2010 08:38 AM

Nice move:thumbsup

The Porn Nerd 01-31-2010 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 16794484)
So the big secrets:

1) cross sales as a business are based on your ability to monetize the sale into a single rebill and then profit on volume (i.e. if you take in 10k cross sales and make 1$ profit per thats 10k$ profit ;))
2) the majority of paysites have little ability to retain members so rely on cross sales out and cam and dating upsales to make profit.
3) the vast majority of paysite programs do under 50 sales a day.
4) most big cross sale programs would do over 1 to 2k sales a day.
5) if your an affiliate and thats your only source of revenue quit now.
6) real sales volume of 100+ sales a day without cross sales means you are a doing something right.
7) tube's havent hurt sales one bit on paysites, anyone who says they have didnt match the facebook and twitter and myspace alexa graphs to their sales.
8) if you think a reality tour or some bs designer who has never run a paysite knows how to make a good tour. You are on crack. Same goes for gallery designers if they dont submit galleries to big sites themselves then why buy from them?
9) your host matters dont go with the cheapest or the most expensive, test them out call them at 2 am and tell them your server is down find out how long it takes for them to get back to you. Check the connectivity and peer network they use.
10) if you run a paysite and use one or two billers, you are making a mistake have 10 mitigate your risk and thruput by adjusting your biller to the sales thru put of the moment.

there you go enjoy.

Much of what you advise is SPOT ON so fantastic work! However, ths '100 sales a day' thing, or even half that number, is an unrealistic goal for the average affiliate, or paysite owner.

Do the math: 100 sales a day translates into 3,000 sales a month. $30 a sale (average) and we're talking ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE MONTHLY. And what percentage, from 100 sales a day, would rebill? Let's be positive and say 20%. Great, that's six hundred rebills monthly. So, six months in, and you've got....call it a thousand rebills (although if you're pumping three thousand sales a month you should be able to retain higher than 20%) but just for shit's sake let's call it a thousand rebills a month. That's another what, $360,000 a year, just in rebills?

My friend, if you are talking THOSE kinds of numbers then whatever info or teaching an affiliate could learn from this thread probably would not apply to them. in other words, if you're cranking out $12-$15 MILLION DOLLARS in revenue yearly then, well, open a college and stop reading this thread altogether. LOL

A more 'realistic' goal, IMHO, for an affiliate or paysite owner who is a 'small' affiliate, or even a medium-sized one, would be 10-20 sales a day. 20 sales daily translates into (app) 600 sales a month times $30 equals...$18,000 in monthly revenue. After taxes, expenses, splits, yada yada maybe you walk away with $75,000-$100,000 a year in income. Hey, not bad but better than 95% of working stiffs, right?

Anyway, just wanted to throw my two cents in. LOL Otherwise, great points mate!!!

Octopus 01-31-2010 11:56 AM

should be interesting

Shap 01-31-2010 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16800192)
Much of what you advise is SPOT ON so fantastic work! However, ths '100 sales a day' thing, or even half that number, is an unrealistic goal for the average affiliate, or paysite owner.

Do the math: 100 sales a day translates into 3,000 sales a month. $30 a sale (average) and we're talking ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE MONTHLY. And what percentage, from 100 sales a day, would rebill? Let's be positive and say 20%. Great, that's six hundred rebills monthly. So, six months in, and you've got....call it a thousand rebills (although if you're pumping three thousand sales a month you should be able to retain higher than 20%) but just for shit's sake let's call it a thousand rebills a month. That's another what, $360,000 a year, just in rebills?

My friend, if you are talking THOSE kinds of numbers then whatever info or teaching an affiliate could learn from this thread probably would not apply to them. in other words, if you're cranking out $12-$15 MILLION DOLLARS in revenue yearly then, well, open a college and stop reading this thread altogether. LOL

A more 'realistic' goal, IMHO, for an affiliate or paysite owner who is a 'small' affiliate, or even a medium-sized one, would be 10-20 sales a day. 20 sales daily translates into (app) 600 sales a month times $30 equals...$18,000 in monthly revenue. After taxes, expenses, splits, yada yada maybe you walk away with $75,000-$100,000 a year in income. Hey, not bad but better than 95% of working stiffs, right?

Anyway, just wanted to throw my two cents in. LOL Otherwise, great points mate!!!

Your math is way off. Pull out the calculator and you'll see what I mean.

The Porn Nerd 01-31-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16800318)
Your math is way off. Pull out the calculator and you'll see what I mean.

HAH! Gotta lay off that ganja so early...LOL OF COURSE: 100 sales a day times 30 days at an average $30 a sale and it's closer to a hundred thousand a month.

So: one too many ZEROS. LOL Anyway, thanks for pointing that out. But still, 1.5 million a year in sales/rebills (not counting any other monetization)...is THAT a 'realistic' goal if you're a paysite owner or an affiliate?

Sure hope it is!! Thanks for pointing out my mistakes. :) Great thread!

Shap 01-31-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16800355)
HAH! Gotta lay off that ganja so early...LOL OF COURSE: 100 sales a day times 30 days at an average $30 a sale and it's closer to a hundred thousand a month.

So: one too many ZEROS. LOL Anyway, thanks for pointing that out. But still, 1.5 million a year in sales/rebills (not counting any other monetization)...is THAT a 'realistic' goal if you're a paysite owner or an affiliate?

Sure hope it is!! Thanks for pointing out my mistakes. :) Great thread!

It is definitely realistic. Many have achieved that and well beyond it.

The Porn Nerd 01-31-2010 02:26 PM

Then Yay for 100 sales a day! LOL This will be interesting, this thread...

Zester 01-31-2010 02:26 PM

this board might actually turn productive....

Hotrocket 01-31-2010 03:01 PM

I think its a great idea..my only issue is I think leaving the article in the main forum for a week is too long..I think 24-48 hours in the main forum and then move it to the Edu forum while the discussion is hopefully still active. Or possibly display the topic in both forums simultaneously if you are set on the 1 week time frame.

Iron Fist 01-31-2010 06:48 PM

Let me smoke my crack pipe and see what numbers pop out of my ass...

TXXXTN 01-31-2010 09:24 PM

Awesome, looking forward to this!

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-31-2010 09:35 PM

I'm sure successful industry insiders can't wait to share valuable information with gfy. :1orglaugh

Should be interesting either way.

Sausage 01-31-2010 09:47 PM

Gee wonder where gfy got this idea ;)

Maybe something we have been doing all year already ?

GTS Mark 01-31-2010 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 16794484)
So the big secrets:

1) cross sales as a business are based on your ability to monetize the sale into a single rebill and then profit on volume (i.e. if you take in 10k cross sales and make 1$ profit per thats 10k$ profit ;))
2) the majority of paysites have little ability to retain members so rely on cross sales out and cam and dating upsales to make profit.
3) the vast majority of paysite programs do under 50 sales a day.
4) most big cross sale programs would do over 1 to 2k sales a day.
5) if your an affiliate and thats your only source of revenue quit now.
6) real sales volume of 100+ sales a day without cross sales means you are a doing something right.
7) tube's havent hurt sales one bit on paysites, anyone who says they have didnt match the facebook and twitter and myspace alexa graphs to their sales.
8) if you think a reality tour or some bs designer who has never run a paysite knows how to make a good tour. You are on crack. Same goes for gallery designers if they dont submit galleries to big sites themselves then why buy from them?
9) your host matters dont go with the cheapest or the most expensive, test them out call them at 2 am and tell them your server is down find out how long it takes for them to get back to you. Check the connectivity and peer network they use.
10) if you run a paysite and use one or two billers, you are making a mistake have 10 mitigate your risk and thruput by adjusting your biller to the sales thru put of the moment.

there you go enjoy.

Great info!!!

GTS Mark 01-31-2010 11:36 PM

Eric BTW I would be happy to offer any tips if you need advice on traffic/monetization etc...

Waiter 02-01-2010 05:42 AM

Sounds good interesting :thumbsup

Loki 02-01-2010 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myjah (Post 16796032)
Would love to have you participate. I'll send you an email :)

Never got the email yet.

-Loki-

Dirty D 02-01-2010 07:12 AM

Serious Bidness!

What will the trolls do?

myjah 02-01-2010 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdc-Loki (Post 16801733)
Never got the email yet.

-Loki-

Check it again - if you don't have an email now, hit me up on ICQ :)

myjah 02-01-2010 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST (Post 16801406)
Eric BTW I would be happy to offer any tips if you need advice on traffic/monetization etc...

Hey, sent you an email - sounds great!


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