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marcop 04-02-2010 08:43 AM

Max and I have been corresponding. He sent me a statement last week, which I scanned and put up here: http://www.elevenentertainment.com/max/.

Sabby 04-02-2010 08:46 AM

There need to be set boundaries. I think they will come. Some day...


Sabby:)

Paul Markham 04-02-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17000909)
Pee is sterile and no more gross than cum imho. People drink their own pee to survive thirst in extreme conditions.

Sabby:)

Wikipedia

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The main dangers are the high salt and mineral content. The high salt content usually does not pose a problem if the urine is sufficiently diluted, and not consumed in mass quantities. The effect of the high salt may be mitigated by drinking some water after consuming urine. The urine may be diluted if the person drinks some water an hour or so before producing the urine that will be consumed.


Health Library

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Evidence for the Health Claim

Drinking urine when no other liquid is available?particularly fresh, safe drinking water?may be a matter of survival. Urine is largely comprised of water that has been filtered through the body as part of the body?s ongoing process of flushing out waste products. Although few people like the idea of drinking urine, fewer would prefer to suffer the ultimate consequences of dehydration.


Seems how much of it you drink and is it yours, are deciding factors.

Joshua G 04-02-2010 09:05 AM

theres too much hand wringing in this thread. Very few producers are actually being investigated & prosecuted for obscenity, even 2257. The Jonny Laws have more pressing matters. Thats why under 8 years of Bush there were very few cases brought to trial. None of the bible belt towns have gone on a porno witchhunt; its way too expensive & not worth the effort. Mostly the Paul Littles end up in jail because a federal attorney needs to impress the boss. In fact 1 of the 9 federal prosecutors fired in 06 was because he refused to tow the line on obscenity investigations. Overall this is something Jonny Law doesn't consider a high priority.

Dirty Dane 04-02-2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17000940)
There need to be set boundaries. I think they will come. Some day...

Yes, but boundaries are also individual matter. If I want to pee down my girlfriends throat, record it, and friends of mine want to watch it or strangers want to pay for watching it, why should the community care or interfere?
If no one are forced to do it, forced to watch it, put in danger, then I can't see the problem.

Sabby 04-02-2010 09:15 AM

The internet has changed alot of things real fast.


Sabby:)

Paul Markham 04-02-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17001010)
Yes, but boundaries are also individual matter. If I want to pee down my girlfriends throat, record it, and friends of mine want to watch it or strangers want to pay for watching it, why should the community care or interfere?
If no one are forced to do it, forced to watch it, put in danger, then I can't see the problem.

I cam. I can see you sitting along side PL if you do what he did.

Why should the community care or interfere? Because they're watching it or just don't want their children watching it.

Dirty Dane 04-02-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17001021)
I cam. I can see you sitting along side PL if you do what he did.

Why should the community care or interfere? Because they're watching it or just don't want their children watching it.

:) Well, I do not practice it, but it's a general matter of free speech and constitutional rights. A good community do not discriminate or stalking minorities, it compromise. The compromise could in this case be restricting it to warning and age access limits. Just like with Hollywood movies :winkwink:

Sabby 04-02-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17000989)
Wikipedia



Health Library



Seems how much of it you drink and is it yours, are deciding factors.

A shipwrecked man will go insane drinking salt water also...


Sabby:)

Paul Markham 04-02-2010 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17001054)
:) Well, I do not practice it, but it's a general matter of free speech and constitutional rights. A good community do not discriminate or stalking minorities, it compromise. The compromise could in this case be restricting it to warning and age access limits. Just like with Hollywood movies :winkwink:

Free speech only goes so far. And who said these communities were good?

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A shipwrecked man will go insane drinking salt water also...


Sabby
Very true.

Dirty Dane 04-02-2010 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17001078)
Free speech only goes so far. And who said these communities were good?

Well here (in DK), Max Hardcore or similar is not illegal. The laws (in this context) do not restrict that free speech, except for protecting those who are forced or can't give consent. Minors are protected from abuse and animals are protected from violence. But that's it. The free speech is a written constitutional right, established for minorities in general, and the politicians mostly agree the laws and policy shall not refer to religious text. I think that's good thing, and hopefully it will stay that way :)

Sabby 04-02-2010 10:13 AM

Global laws will come.

Im not saying it to be angst... it just will.


Sabby:)

Dirty Dane 04-02-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17001154)
Global laws will come.

Im not saying it to be angst... it just will.

That's not going to happen. Global law would also require many strict countries that banned non-obscene porn to unban it. That's the upside of it, but neither these countries or the religious in western countries will allow that to happen.

Federal laws, more similarity between US and EU, internet regulation and changes in credit card companies policy is more realistic, but that's a very slow process. Right now, main concern is economy and cybercrime, not global regulation of commercial porn.

Sabby 04-02-2010 11:05 AM

It will.


Sabby:)

baddog 04-02-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 16836183)
It's not like Max Hardcore intentionally reached out to someone in Tampa and forced them to download his content.

It sounds like it was exactly the opposite. They reached out to him.

Cyber Fucker 04-02-2010 02:36 PM

justice is blind


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