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weekly 03-19-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16958392)
I lived in the Soviet Union, please don't act like you know what you're talking about when trying to define those terms, lol.

Where did you live and how old were you then?

Tom_PM 03-19-2010 08:25 AM

The General Store has been allowed to ban people from coming in to shop. Or kick people out as soon as they need a repair under warranty. That is about to end. It's a regulation issue, not a rights issue, although the poll is telling in terms of data.

weekly 03-19-2010 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by slavdogg (Post 16959030)
above are all rights
healthcare is a good, just like food, wellfare, job, housing
I said it before and will try it again, you cannot make a good into a fundamental right

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Right to equal protection under the law
I would argue health care falls under the right of equal protection from illness and disability. Property is a "good" which is protected would you not agree. At worst, health care is a service, not a good.

12clicks 03-19-2010 08:50 AM

And the list of have nots wanting the government to provide for them so they don't have to provide for themselves continues

Tom_PM 03-19-2010 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16960003)
And the list of have nots wanting the government to provide for them so they don't have to provide for themselves continues

I have had a heart attack and have serious other concerns. I can NOT buy insurance sir. Do you understand that? If I had 100 million dollars I could not purchase this "good", because they wont sell to me. Make sense? Thanks for learning.

Joshua G 03-19-2010 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16959591)
Oh yes, the left wing really care about the people, the poor, etc.. That's hilarious rofl. I wonder how many of the moronic left realize it's not even about the bill, otherwise they would have gone back and started all over. Josh, I'll take it that you haven't read ANY of the bill, because only the ignorant would assume that because the public option is out, there will be no government take over. I don't know if you're in the middle or on the left, but instead of offering something logical, you offer an appeal to emotion, so I'm going with left. Btw, I've been sick and embarrassed ever since modern liberalism came out.

Edit: I'm pretty sure you don't even know how much this new bill helps insurance companies lol. +1 for leftist ignorance:)

im not too clear how more regulations + insurance exhanges + individual mandate is a government takeover. by that logic, i guess the government controls the entire economy, since they regulate everything that moves nowadays. your right...i havent read the bill, i get my info from a combo of rachel maddow & matt drudge. i think the bill was only released last night anyhow. & none of my comments came to the defense of the left wing, or of the reform bill. I'm just really unhappy the right wing is offering a huge helping of fear, instead of giving the public a positive alternative to more government. In my opinion the repubs are fucking up so bad, they are giving the public no alternative to dems. I really feel the current right wing leadership is a disaster & is driving the acsension of the tea party as grass roots republicans are disenchanted with the current GOP.

The Demon 03-19-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 16960072)
im not too clear how more regulations + insurance exhanges + individual mandate is a government takeover. by that logic, i guess the government controls the entire economy, since they regulate everything that moves nowadays. your right...i havent read the bill, i get my info from a combo of rachel maddow & matt drudge. i think the bill was only released last night anyhow. & none of my comments came to the defense of the left wing, or of the reform bill. I'm just really unhappy the right wing is offering a huge helping of fear, instead of giving the public a positive alternative to more government. In my opinion the repubs are fucking up so bad, they are giving the public no alternative to dems. I really feel the current right wing leadership is a disaster & is driving the acsension of the tea party as grass roots republicans are disenchanted with the current GOP.

Oh, I didn't know you were a fan of drudgereport, awesome. And the government does control many of the economic aspects right now, more than ever I believe. Why else is the stock market at 10,700+ when the economy is in shit?

Honestly, I don't think there is any real alternative at this point, because we need to reduce our debts and deficits before we can have any real health care reform, and I think that's what the right wing has been trying to state.

Also, I don't understand where you see the REpublicans fucking up bad. If anyone is fucking up bad, it's the Dems. They're on pace to lose their majorities in November due to their fuckups, and THEIR leadership is a disaster. The Republicans are surging right now and while they're not doing everything right, I think they're doing just enough to make people grow weary of the Democratic leadership after only 1 year.

BFT3K 03-19-2010 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16960003)
And the list of have nots wanting the government to provide for them so they don't have to provide for themselves continues

You are an idiot. :2 cents:

The Demon 03-19-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16960100)
You are an idiot. :2 cents:

Thank god you're back, now we can start laughing again.

BFT3K 03-19-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16960107)
Thank god you're back, now we can start laughing again.

Hey everyone, I finally found out why the demon is so obnoxious.

Someone just emailed me his wedding picture.

Poor bastard...

http://www.fetishsoup.com/GFY/DemonAndWife.jpg

Now we can start laughing again!

The Demon 03-19-2010 09:41 AM

And the self pwnage continues.

BFT3K 03-19-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16960187)
And the self pwnage continues.

:small-smi :small-smi :small-smi :small-smi :small-smi

JaneB 03-19-2010 12:11 PM

It would be nice to have a discussion on here without people having to call each other names or post stupid pictures. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't make them idiots or wrong.

NetHorse 03-19-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16958713)
Shove the $20 up YOU ass and stop pretending like a typo makes a difference... douche bag.

You made the same mistake 15 times in this thread, it's clear you don't know the difference between your & you're. Stop trying to make the excuse that they were all typos, just makes you sound like more of a moron. :1orglaugh

Anyways, next time you go around calling people fucking idiots you might not want to sound like one yourself. That's all I'm saying pal..:winkwink:

The Demon 03-19-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 16960808)
You made the same mistake 15 times in this thread, it's clear you don't know the difference between your & you're. Stop trying to make the excuse that they were all typos, just makes you sound like more of a moron. :1orglaugh

Anyways, next time you go around calling people fucking idiots you might not want to sound like one yourself. That's all I'm saying pal..:winkwink:

hahahaha

BFT3K 03-19-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 16960778)
It would be nice to have a discussion on here without people having to call each other names or post stupid pictures. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't make them idiots or wrong.

Lots of posts are started here, intended for serious discussion, but inevitably most topics degenerate to insanity instead. Everyone has an opinion, and it is rare that anyone gives a crap about the opposing viewpoint, so the mud just flies.

Some people allow for rational debate, but many do not. At that point you can either just walk away, or entertain yourself with some silly stupidity. I do both, depending on my mood.

If this site was not called GFY.com, then I would agree with you entirely, but this is one of the few places online where you can just say whatever the hell you want. Most people are smart enough to know nothing really means much here, and it's all in fun.

No matter what any of us think about anything here, none of us will be changing the world... especially not via our opinionated postings here on GFY.

TheDoc 03-19-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 16960808)
You made the same mistake 15 times in this thread, it's clear you don't know the difference between your & you're. Stop trying to make the excuse that they were all typos, just makes you sound like more of a moron. :1orglaugh

Anyways, next time you go around calling people fucking idiots you might not want to sound like one yourself. That's all I'm saying pal..:winkwink:

Yeah yeah, other than I have written it correctly for years, on gfy.. and if you couldn't figure out I wrote it back to you incorrectly on purpose, then youR are a fucking idiot.

What are you The Demons brother?

CosmicTang 03-19-2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 16960778)
It would be nice to have a discussion on here without people having to call each other names or post stupid pictures. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't make them idiots or wrong.

:2 cents:

If for no other reason than to eliminate all the useless posts between those with something to say.

Tom_PM 03-19-2010 01:50 PM

This thread seemed fine for 2 pages or so.

TheDoc 03-19-2010 01:53 PM

I agree guys.... the attacks on these type of posts MUST end... Please send your messages to the Admins and protest this repeating bullshit!

TheDoc 03-19-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 16960778)
It would be nice to have a discussion on here without people having to call each other names or post stupid pictures. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't make them idiots or wrong.

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16960890)
Some people allow for rational debate, but many do not. At that point you can either just walk away, or entertain yourself with some silly stupidity. I do both, depending on my mood.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16961123)
:2 cents:

If for no other reason than to eliminate all the useless posts between those with something to say.

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16961127)
This thread seemed fine for 2 pages or so.

FfvB - vBulletin Management

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7023

It totally removes posts/replies from trolls, douche bags, nasty picture posters, etc.. and it's fast!

BFT3K 03-19-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16961127)
This thread seemed fine for 2 pages or so.

Well, 2 good pages are better than nothing :)

The Demon 03-19-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 16960808)
You made the same mistake 15 times in this thread, it's clear you don't know the difference between your & you're. Stop trying to make the excuse that they were all typos, just makes you sound like more of a moron. :1orglaugh

Anyways, next time you go around calling people fucking idiots you might not want to sound like one yourself. That's all I'm saying pal..:winkwink:

You're typing to the laughing stock of GFY. Don't waste your posts.

weekly 03-19-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16959885)
Where did you live and how old were you then?

You lived in the Soviet Union.....sure you did kid. If you are going to lie, at least be able to back it up.

The Demon 03-19-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16961348)
You lived in the Soviet Union.....sure you did kid. If you are going to lie, at least be able to back it up.

Haven't I embarrassed you enough already? Here, I'll repeat what you told me because seeing as how you made the same claim, it's as applicable:)

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Originally Posted by the demon (Post 16961348)
You lived in the Soviet Union.....sure you did kid. If you are going to lie, at least be able to back it up.

Stupid Ass.

mgtarheels 03-19-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16960100)
You are an idiot. :2 cents:

Absolutely.


You should have seen him in the other thread stating how the Constitution didn't have Articles. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

mgtarheels 03-19-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 16960778)
It would be nice to have a discussion on here without people having to call each other names or post stupid pictures. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't make them idiots or wrong.

No, but I'd argue narcissism and delusions would.

The Demon 03-19-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 16961375)
Absolutely.


You should have seen him in the other thread stating how the Constitution didn't have Articles. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I wonder how many times your stupid ass has to get owned. You realize I'm the only one responding to you for a reason? You're like a miniature version of thedoc, dumb beyond belief. Or maybe you're his...Son?

mgtarheels 03-19-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16961381)
I wonder how many times your stupid ass has to get owned. You realize I'm the only one responding to you for a reason? You're like a miniature version of thedoc, dumb beyond belief. Or maybe you're his...Son?

You also realize you're the only person to reply since I've posted?


Oh, a correlation? WUZDAT?

The Demon 03-19-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 16961386)
You also realize you're the only person to reply since I've posted?


Oh, a correlation? WUZDAT?

Repeating me? My my, the more you get owned, the dumber you get. hahaha

mgtarheels 03-19-2010 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16961392)
Repeating me? My my, the more you get owned, the dumber you get. hahaha

Imagine you not being able to connect the dots.

weekly 03-19-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16961355)
Haven't I embarrassed you enough already? Here, I'll repeat what you told me because seeing as how you made the same claim, it's as applicable:)



Stupid Ass.

I would assume that means you did not ever live in the Soviet Union. Or do I need to ask again. It is a simple question. Why the subterfuge. Just tell me where and we can discuss the neighborhood. Come to papa.

weekly 03-19-2010 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16961392)
Repeating me? My my, the more you get owned, the dumber you get. hahaha

Damn it seems you "own" everyone on this board.

mgtarheels 03-19-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16961406)
Damn it seems you "own" everyone on this board.

Especially himself when he found out the Constitution was made up of Articles and Amendments. He thought it was only Amendments. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The Demon 03-19-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 16961417)
Especially himself when he found out the Constitution was made up of Articles and Amendments. He thought it was only Amendments. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Poor guy, he bullshitted his way into discussing the Articles of Confederation. When his ass got tooled, he claims he was talking about the Articles of the Constitution, redirecting the conversation yet again:)

The Demon 03-19-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16961406)
Damn it seems you "own" everyone on this board.

Only a few people, who are made fun of by the other members of this board. Just the morons. You were too easy, and this kid might be even easier than TheDoc simply because he just doesn't give up. It's too funny..

And I lived in Moscow most of the year, and had a Datcha outside for the summer.

mgtarheels 03-19-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16961442)
Poor guy, he bullshitted his way into discussing the Articles of Confederation. When his ass got tooled, he claims he was talking about the Articles of the Constitution, redirecting the conversation yet again:)

You assumed it was the AoC, yet NO ONE brought it up. The only topic that was being discussed was the second Constitution. Hahahahaha:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The Demon 03-19-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 16961450)
You assumed it was the AoC, yet NO ONE brought it up. The only topic that was being discussed was the second Constitution. Hahahahaha:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I didn't assume, it's the only thing that predated the Constitution. I can't remember how many times I've handed your ass to you today and watched you switch topics. ROFL absolutely priceless. :winkwink:

mgtarheels 03-19-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by the demon (Post 16961446)
only a few people, who are made fun of by the other members of this board. Just the morons. You were too easy, and this kid might be even easier than thedoc simply because he just doesn't give up. It's too funny..

And i lived in moscow most of the year, and had a datcha outside for the summer.

Маленький человек - такой жлоб

mgtarheels 03-19-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16961453)
I didn't assume, it's the only thing that predated the Constitution. I can't remember how many times I've handed your ass to you today and watched you switch topics. ROFL absolutely priceless. :winkwink:

The only mention of any predating the second Constitution was when you mentioned #4 and #9.


Even still, your reference was null and void because they weren't the same. Keep up, turbo.


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