That's not true at all. There is no scientific evidence for an afterlife. That is a far cry from saying science proves thee is no afterlife. Science is simply not in a position to say anything substantive on the topic.

What OVERWHELMING evidence are you talking about anyway?

Are you a psychiatrist or a scientist? You sure do seem to have some conclusive opinions about the topic. Give me one substantive piece of evidence that DISPROVES the idea of life after death.

Not really. HELL is a sales gimmick. We don't know for certain what happens after death.

I don't think i have ever read as much idiocy in a single thread in my life, and I am including the Jesus thumper forums I read. Only a few people even seem to be taking the question seriously. Most of you are shoveling your usual smart ass shit. You can't even manage to be funny. Most of the rest of you are doing exactly what you accuse religious people of doing -- namely, forming an opinion with absolutely ZERO forethought. No wonder the conservatives are winning the culture war. Please grow the fuck up, people.

Any afterlife believers in the porn industry would be hypocrites would they not? I don't think there's any surprise in how people are responding.

Afterlife is absolutely 100% the fabrication of religion.

I was already dead once....for billions of years before I was born. It didn't inconvenience me much then so I expect it wont affect me much after I die this time either.

No it isn't.

Heaven and hell, yes. Afterlife, no.

You weren't dead because in order to be dead you first have to be alive. You didn't exist before you were born.

Does the bug you squish go to bug heaven? No. You're meat and when you die you are rotten meat. It's pretty simple. Just because we have more advanced brains than everything else that magically means we have souls and shit? Where is the logic in that? what about aliens that are more advanced than us? Do they have souls and spirits too?

So you KNOW there is no life after death but you believe in aliens?

without afterlife religion has no point. I have studied just about every world mythology and afterlife is usually the central point of any belief system.


We now that religion is bs so why would you continue to believe in the afterlife myth?

aliens make a whole lot more sense than an invisible supernatural world.

Religion and the concept of an afterlife are two distinct things.

You don't believe in an afterlife and yet you assume things about it. I am not saying there is one, only that it is impossible to prove or disprove, in which case you would be an idiot to claim to know for certain. Have you seriously looked into any of this on your own?

Go ahead, prove your claim.

none believer here.
no difference than believing in heaven and hell - it's bullshit.

You better hope there is no afterlife because God hates pornography - Matthew 5:28

"Now, O body, you are paying the price of the delights you granted yourself!...and you did it of your own free will I saw several souls fall into Hell, and among them was a child of fifteen, cursing her parents for not having taught her to fear God nor that there was a Hell. Her life had been a short one, she said, but full of sin, for she had given in to all that her body and passions demanded in the way of satisfaction"

-Sister Josefa Menendez - From the book Way of Divine Love - 1923

http://hellandjustice.com/near_death_experiences.htm

No harm in believing in an afterlife is there? If you're wrong then when you do die at least you won't be disappointed, right?

(You'll be dead)

But if you're right.....


I imagine pornographer heaven is like Bourbon Street during Mardis Gras. Do you believe in Pornographer heaven?

The whole point of my quote was that "dead" and "non existent" are one and the the same thing.

So if afterlife does not necessarily equal heaven and hell then what is this afterlife you refer to? Presumably some other delusional figment of the imagination.

yes I know ther is no afterlife. Ther is no logic to such a thing even existing. just a way for humans to soothe their fears of death. If there is an afterlife then you never really die. The world would be better off if everyone stopped believing in an afterlife.

As far as aliens? Well let's see 200 BILLION stars in our galaxy, 200 billion galaxies in the universe. Even if the odds of a star having a planet capable of delevoping intelligent life were 500 trillion to 1 there would still be 80 million planets with intelligent life on them.

Considering guys blow themselves up and kill dozens or hundreds of innocent people in the process all because they believe there will be some kind reward in the afterlife is it harmless? How many suicide bombers would there be if they didn't believe in an afterlife? My guess would be nearly zero.

i'd really like to know what scientific proven "evidence" you're talking about

Wow the most logical thing I've ever heard you say . :thumbsup

you'll never convince people on a message board man.

now you're talking about muslims
72 female virgins.....I rather have 2 female porn stars

I believe that I am too shy to meet Karen O.

Do I believe the afterlife exists? I don't know that.

Every single case of supernatural experience that was been put under laboratory scrutiny has been explained to have natural causes.

The only ones that haven't been proven false are those that haven't had scientific scrutiny.

Most of these are from books written by non credible sources that hide behind some lower level college degree, or they obtained their PHD from a third rate university.

Do you really think there's a nice place reserved for us working in porn :1orglaugh

There ain't no beers in heaven bud

Okay I stand corrected. For a minute small fraction of the planet's population believing in an afterlife actually can be harmful.

For the other some 4 billion believers though I stand by my earlier statement. And as long as they aren't coming to blow themselves and dozens of others up they can believe what they want, no skin off my hairy rump.


Btw those of you speaking in absolutes saying "There IS no afterlife", you really should check yourselves, because the only thing there IS NONE of in this conversation is proof. You might want to start saying "I believe there is no afterlife", because it is your belief, not proven fact. Just as it's existance isn't proven either, which is why it's called faith. (I'll add in a "duh" here)


MIght I suggest everyone just get off your high horse and believe what you want, shut the hell up, quit worrying about what others believe, and be happy?

Too much to ask?

I believe in believing believers of non believers who believe in not believing believers.

Afterlife is closely linked to religious beliefs. You can't separate the two. I don't see how any intelligent person can believe in the afterlife while rejecting religion and deity worship.

You must be pretty closed minded then. I hate religion but am open to the possible concept of some kind of "higher power" (using that loosely) and afterlife. I do not believe in heaven or hell, its way too simple of a concept and obviously created to keep people in line. However, I am not foolish enough to think that mankind will ever be able to grasp even a speck of absolute fact on the matter. Enjoy life, be a good person and whatever may be on the other side, if anything, is anyones guess.

No I dont belive in an afterlife. I belive it to be just like before you were even born..you knew nothing you did not exist in this universe, thats why you should make the most of what little life we do have on this planet.

No there is no afterlife. I'm 100% certain about that. Do YOU believe in Santa Claus? No? Why not? Do you have PROOF he isn't real? Nope. So since you can't prove he isn't real then using your logic you should believe in him anyways. By the way you can't prove something DOESN'T exist. That's proving a negative, which is impossible. You can only prove something exists.

Do I care if you want to believe in an afterlife or not? No I don't. If you want to believe in fairy tales go ahead. My problem is when people like Christians try to force their beliefs on others by trying to get prayer and Bible study in public schools. Most people I deal with in life believe in some stupid shit or another. I don't waste a whole lot of time on that aspect about them. Hell I got a friend that's into Wican which I find equally as stupid as any other religion. I don't try to convert him or anyone else to atheism.

not really...

Energy actually does, the universe will ultimately end in heat death. The fact some of your energy goes to helping a worm take a shit doesn't mean anything other than at least your meat was put to good use.

It should be the most obvious thing to anyone that as a person undergoes a degenerative brain disease they lose their personality in correlation with the progress of the disease. To suggest anything else is to bullshit yourself into thinking that for instance Alzheimers is a "soul tricking" disease, and that yes, even as it destroys the brain that is a mere side effect to throw people of the scent of it's actual effect which is er.. What? Very, very targetted soul blocking? All these degenerative diseases are actually little mirrors that reflect parts of the soul back into the phlogiston? lol. I don't get why you'd even open that door up, it's been proven time an time again that the mind is a manifestation of the brain... That is why the mind changes when you change the brain, like when you put THC in it.. Of course I do mean observably proved, I can't stop you adding a whole Rube Goldberg machine of unneccessary mystical unfalsifiable prove-an-invisible-pink-unicorn-doesn't-exist bullshit to the situation. I mean your personality dies in a degenerative brain disease, you alter your personality with psychiatric drugs, you can trigger memories by stimulating the brain cells they happen to be stored in at that moment.. You die. Occam's Razor that shit. There is no proof that an afterlife does or does not exist but you've got to be the most glass half full motherfucker to know this evidence and choose to believe otherwise.

There is no evidence that plants feel fear, that was an unscientific experiment from a hippy in the 60's that has been disproven several times. No need for facts to get in the way of a little mysticism though, right? I can't believe you purport to run a science blog. Do just a modicum of research before you post the science equivalent of an email chain letter.

I believe in porn ! ;)
Said the piest to the devil which made him smile kick him right into hell:(

Personally I think when you die you fade to black, your conciousness ceases to be.

Energy transfers on, organisms feed on what remains, etc. but the plug is pulled on you as you know yourself. In don't think people wander the earth as ghosts and I don't think there's any reward at the end of the tunnel.

As much as I disagree with religion, I do think most people need faith. I've experienced my share of watching people pass on and those with faith have a much easier time of it. Some people look forward to things like heavenly rewards but most look forward to reunions with lost loved ones, and that helps them let go when it's time to shuffle off this mortal coil. I would never want to take that away from them.

Staring death in the face is a very difficult thing to do, I hope when it's my time I don't see it coming, or if I do have to face it I hope my struggle is short. If someone wants to believe, despite my personal opinions I take no issue with holding their hand and telling them I believe too.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I believe less than what I would have if I believed more than what I do.:thumbsup

Logic, it's a bitch isn't it.

Well I suppose I cannot say with absolute certainty there is no afterlife because there is no proof against it but I'll reserve a .00001% chance of it.

What about the speculation that there's flying teapots somewhere out between Mars and Jupiter? Sure there's no proof for it but there's also no proof against it so I guess I'll have to reserve a .00001% chance that there could in fact be flying teapots out beyond Mars.

Just because there's no proof against something doesn't give it a chance of existing.

I guess it means I'm not an absolute atheist but I sure wont waste any time or effort thinking there could be an afterlife.

if i'm forgiven for working in this industry, i'm going to heaven :)