Your Lifeforce energy will leave your body in a warm smelly fart, and then it's Game Over :1orglaugh

Not if I'm going to Hell :Oh crap

yeah its a club on 5th & adams

Fairy stories are for kids!

>>yes
I've had many many things happen to me and people I know<<

meaning? please share

If you dont know what happened before you we`re born, how can you know what will happen after your death?

I can write a book but here's one.

When my great grandfather was sick, I was young about 8 years old, I remember my grandmother on the phone with her sister talking about how he had said he had a dream of his father and brother who had long ago died telling him he should be coming home. I was snooping on her listening to hear what she'd say but I remember the feeling I got realising they were thinking he'll probably die soon

One day he woke up earlier in the morning and told my great grandmother he just had a dream of his brother and father telling him to get ready because it was time for him to come home. So my great grandmother rushed to the neighbors who had a phone to call my grandmother.

When she came back he had died.

All three of them slept the night before funeral downstairs at what was a small kitchen and what we called the summer room. Late that night they heard someone cough and what sounded like someone walking and dragging their foot slightly. My great grandfather was in a war, he lost his eye and his leg was somewhat paralyzed so when he walked he dragged one of his feet slightly and his galoshes made this very distinct noise. Which I also liked mimicking for whatever reason.
They say that's the sound they heard. We had a dog chained outside near the walkway in the yard and they said he first started to growl, then got quiet suddenly. Few seconds later they saw the shadow of a man walking toward the entrance door, leaving, same foot dragging noise my great grandfather always made when he walked.

Then either several days later or around the 40th day, I can't recall exactly, (there's food given away then in name of the dead person) my grandmother and her sister had the same dream that same night.

Both dreamt they were on the same small boat with an old guy with a white beard, who tells them he will now take them to see where their father lived now. He tells them they'll see people they know but not to touch them or they would stay there with them.

Both my grandmother and her sister described going trough a dark tunnel then on the other side they end up at either a small lake or small quiet river. They describe a big meadow with green (green color like they have never seen) grass, and familiar people who it appeared to them were having a picnic going on. They ended up recognizing who the people were - aunts, uncles, kids who had died, some a long time ago.

The old man pointed and told both '...and this is where you father lives now'. Both saw the same thing- a building with stained glass windows and rounded roofs similar to an orthodox church. Which is interesing because I think he was an atheist. He was in a war and lost one eye and one of his legs was partially paralised.

On the way back they said their relatives were all waving at them. My grandmother almost hugged one of her aunts but the old guy stopped her.

One winter I went up to the room where he died to dry out from the snow. ANd I laid down on my grandma's bed. It was very quiet but suddenly I started hearing heavy breathing, the way my great grandpa was breathing. It got really close to me, like someone was sitting right next to me, I felt a chill and ran out with my shoes and jacket in probably less than 5 seconds.

My mom and aunt too had the same dream the same night of my grandfather who had died 6 months earlier, being unhappy they aren't planning our annual family meet up. He told both of them to make it happen. So they did, after that again both of them had a dream where he was sitting in the kitchen, smoking looking out the window really happy.

A friend of mine recently had a dream of her dead grandfather, dressing up in a suit looking very serious, like he was going somewhere. She mentioned it at a forum we hang out at, trying to figure out what it meant. Two days later her grandmother, his wife, died.

My boyfriend's grandmother who's almost 95 years old also had several dreams of her husband and others telling her she was past her time. She says she shooshed them away told them to get lost :1orglaugh

Way too many coincidences like these for there not at least consider there's something. Of course if someone doesn't want to believe that's their choice but other experiences I've had personally show me otherwise

FYI Christianity believes once you die, you don't go anywhere, you just fall asleep and are awaken when the rapture occurs. So things like that don't really fit with the dogma. Even though Jesus does hint at reincarnation in the Bibile, but who's reading

If I had a nickle for every time I've dreamed about a dead relative talking to me I'd be rich.

Such dreams are common and really mean nothing. giving life to them in the real world will make them real to you even though they are not.

Telling yourself that you are going to die soon will rush you closer to the grave. Half of being cured of a disease or living healthy is about having a positive attitude about chasing life and not obsessing over death.

I don't think there's an afterlife. Is there an afterlife for bacteria? Plants? Cockroaches? Frogs? Dogs? The way I see it, we're no different than them, just more complex. I do find the thought of my body decomposing and becoming part of other things neat.

yes there is, its karma

That's not true at all. There is no scientific evidence for an afterlife. That is a far cry from saying science proves thee is no afterlife. Science is simply not in a position to say anything substantive on the topic.

What OVERWHELMING evidence are you talking about anyway?

Are you a psychiatrist or a scientist? You sure do seem to have some conclusive opinions about the topic. Give me one substantive piece of evidence that DISPROVES the idea of life after death.

Not really. HELL is a sales gimmick. We don't know for certain what happens after death.

I don't think i have ever read as much idiocy in a single thread in my life, and I am including the Jesus thumper forums I read. Only a few people even seem to be taking the question seriously. Most of you are shoveling your usual smart ass shit. You can't even manage to be funny. Most of the rest of you are doing exactly what you accuse religious people of doing -- namely, forming an opinion with absolutely ZERO forethought. No wonder the conservatives are winning the culture war. Please grow the fuck up, people.

Any afterlife believers in the porn industry would be hypocrites would they not? I don't think there's any surprise in how people are responding.

Afterlife is absolutely 100% the fabrication of religion.

I was already dead once....for billions of years before I was born. It didn't inconvenience me much then so I expect it wont affect me much after I die this time either.

No it isn't.

Heaven and hell, yes. Afterlife, no.

You weren't dead because in order to be dead you first have to be alive. You didn't exist before you were born.

Does the bug you squish go to bug heaven? No. You're meat and when you die you are rotten meat. It's pretty simple. Just because we have more advanced brains than everything else that magically means we have souls and shit? Where is the logic in that? what about aliens that are more advanced than us? Do they have souls and spirits too?

So you KNOW there is no life after death but you believe in aliens?

without afterlife religion has no point. I have studied just about every world mythology and afterlife is usually the central point of any belief system.


We now that religion is bs so why would you continue to believe in the afterlife myth?

aliens make a whole lot more sense than an invisible supernatural world.

Religion and the concept of an afterlife are two distinct things.

You don't believe in an afterlife and yet you assume things about it. I am not saying there is one, only that it is impossible to prove or disprove, in which case you would be an idiot to claim to know for certain. Have you seriously looked into any of this on your own?

Go ahead, prove your claim.

none believer here.
no difference than believing in heaven and hell - it's bullshit.

You better hope there is no afterlife because God hates pornography - Matthew 5:28

"Now, O body, you are paying the price of the delights you granted yourself!...and you did it of your own free will I saw several souls fall into Hell, and among them was a child of fifteen, cursing her parents for not having taught her to fear God nor that there was a Hell. Her life had been a short one, she said, but full of sin, for she had given in to all that her body and passions demanded in the way of satisfaction"

-Sister Josefa Menendez - From the book Way of Divine Love - 1923

http://hellandjustice.com/near_death_experiences.htm

No harm in believing in an afterlife is there? If you're wrong then when you do die at least you won't be disappointed, right?

(You'll be dead)

But if you're right.....


I imagine pornographer heaven is like Bourbon Street during Mardis Gras. Do you believe in Pornographer heaven?

The whole point of my quote was that "dead" and "non existent" are one and the the same thing.

So if afterlife does not necessarily equal heaven and hell then what is this afterlife you refer to? Presumably some other delusional figment of the imagination.

yes I know ther is no afterlife. Ther is no logic to such a thing even existing. just a way for humans to soothe their fears of death. If there is an afterlife then you never really die. The world would be better off if everyone stopped believing in an afterlife.

As far as aliens? Well let's see 200 BILLION stars in our galaxy, 200 billion galaxies in the universe. Even if the odds of a star having a planet capable of delevoping intelligent life were 500 trillion to 1 there would still be 80 million planets with intelligent life on them.

Considering guys blow themselves up and kill dozens or hundreds of innocent people in the process all because they believe there will be some kind reward in the afterlife is it harmless? How many suicide bombers would there be if they didn't believe in an afterlife? My guess would be nearly zero.

i'd really like to know what scientific proven "evidence" you're talking about

Wow the most logical thing I've ever heard you say . :thumbsup

you'll never convince people on a message board man.

now you're talking about muslims
72 female virgins.....I rather have 2 female porn stars

I believe that I am too shy to meet Karen O.

Do I believe the afterlife exists? I don't know that.

Every single case of supernatural experience that was been put under laboratory scrutiny has been explained to have natural causes.

The only ones that haven't been proven false are those that haven't had scientific scrutiny.

Most of these are from books written by non credible sources that hide behind some lower level college degree, or they obtained their PHD from a third rate university.

Do you really think there's a nice place reserved for us working in porn :1orglaugh

There ain't no beers in heaven bud

Okay I stand corrected. For a minute small fraction of the planet's population believing in an afterlife actually can be harmful.

For the other some 4 billion believers though I stand by my earlier statement. And as long as they aren't coming to blow themselves and dozens of others up they can believe what they want, no skin off my hairy rump.


Btw those of you speaking in absolutes saying "There IS no afterlife", you really should check yourselves, because the only thing there IS NONE of in this conversation is proof. You might want to start saying "I believe there is no afterlife", because it is your belief, not proven fact. Just as it's existance isn't proven either, which is why it's called faith. (I'll add in a "duh" here)


MIght I suggest everyone just get off your high horse and believe what you want, shut the hell up, quit worrying about what others believe, and be happy?

Too much to ask?