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TDF 03-22-2010 04:37 PM

see nig,,,,,,,,,,,,

The Adult Broker 03-22-2010 04:39 PM

And yep some typos in previous post- but I'm on road today And working off phone - so typing error to word ratio not too bad I think considering I typed it all off my iPhone. LOL :)

thanks Again. Now Off to daughters school performance then back to REAL biz. ;)

Brujah 03-22-2010 04:46 PM

Damn those iphones. Sue Apple too. At least Apple has two nickels to rub together.

dyna mo 03-22-2010 04:49 PM

million dollar idea: spell check app for iphone!

The Adult Broker 03-22-2010 04:49 PM

So fun with typos - but considering context of Jesse's post and the value of my time- was worth posting the truth but not worth taking my time to perfect the written word.


I can live with my typo reply - the context of it is all that matters.

And yep- Im happy to recommend all who posted their PR services to capitalize on this thread- perfect example of how it rolls. I'm all good with it and wish them the best in their businesses.

Now back to the real show...

Brujah 03-22-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Adult Broker (Post 16968599)
So fun with typos - but considering context of Jesse's post and the value of my time- was worth posting the truth but not worth taking my time to perfect the written word.

Don't take it too seriously, some of us just like to poke fun. It's harmless and no real malice behind it.

Adam_M 03-22-2010 04:54 PM

Good on you Lori! Hope to see you in Phoenix

sicone 03-22-2010 04:58 PM

it's getting interesting now

TheDA 03-22-2010 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 16968567)
ill sum it up since most of you are tl;dr

jessie and his partner populated a site for lori ... lori paid them out many times ....lori noticed she was not getting paid from sponsors...she noticed that none of the linking codes carried the name she asked..instead used a name that belonged to them .... asked for account infos many times .. got nothing

asked for email list got nothing

used the site they had been working on for lori to build another site using her contacts

Well that's a bit of a cunt's trick!!!

LeRoy 03-22-2010 05:08 PM

Seems like its getting sorted out :)

ShellyCrash 03-22-2010 05:18 PM

Is someone pushing their Broker / PR services in this thread? I've seen it mentioned a couple of times but can't seem to see anyone trying to capitalize off of this?

wdsguy 03-22-2010 05:19 PM

its time to get lawyered up!

RaiderCash_Dominik 03-22-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 16968567)
ill sum it up since most of you are tl;dr

jessie and his partner populated a site for lori ... lori paid them out many times ....lori noticed she was not getting paid from sponsors...she noticed that none of the linking codes carried the name she asked..instead used a name that belonged to them .... asked for account infos many times .. got nothing

asked for email list got nothing

used the site they had been working on for lori to build another site using her contacts

I still dont get it.

beemk 03-22-2010 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 16968520)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MikeHawk 03-22-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 16968535)
Are you drunk or is this a product of the U.S. education system? Wow.


Semi-Retired-Dave 03-22-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16968597)
million dollar idea: spell check app for iphone!

That was one thing I loved about my blackberry before the iphone.

fris 03-22-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domain Broker (Post 16968571)
Hire her for all your PR/Promotional needs

Ya right, what does she exactly do, I dont see much PR or Promotion from her.

kush 03-22-2010 05:47 PM

I'm just speculating here, but is it possible Lori Z / The Adult Broker owed epitome money, and perhaps epitome felt she should have received payment within a set amount of time, and when she didn't receive that payment in that amount of time, she started stealing content to recoup her losses? Just a thought.

How long does someone put up with not being paid before seeking payment through alternative means?

Agent 488 03-22-2010 05:48 PM

one side sounds like some long winded convoluted crack head argument.

CosmicTang 03-22-2010 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 16968726)
I'm just speculating here, but is it possible Lori Z / The Adult Broker owed epitome money, and perhaps epitome felt she should have received payment within a set amount of time, and when she didn't receive that payment in that amount of time, she started stealing content to recoup her losses? Just a thought.

How long does someone put up with not being paid before seeking payment through alternative means?

Two wrongs don't make a right. And if that WAS what happened it would take some gall to ask for the original money back.

TDF 03-22-2010 06:03 PM

100 hacked databases

Chris 03-22-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 16968728)
Two wrongs don't make a right. And if that WAS what happened it would take some gall to ask for the original money back.

lori never stole anything

jessie and his partner had been told to use linking codes that belonged to lori on a site they had been working on for lori - instead they use their own codes instead of lori's

hence stealing all the sales the site generated..and then used lori's contacts they got to dev other sites

epitome 03-22-2010 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Adult Broker (Post 16968516)
Wow- thread got long fast :) I was told about it when it started but I've been on conference calls all day doing deals which were more of a priority.

With that said - I've been waiting a long time for u to post
on boards- why you ask you weren't paid or
why I waited?

Because I leanred long ago some
of
the moves you made with my site and helped yourself to backend data, contacts, revenues and more.

I've been sitting and watching behind the scenes for months- I may have been down and out of commission last year but I don't stay down for long - you should
know after my 8 years in business I'm not that naive.

So I let you roll Jease and funny how
u contact me for
money within 36 hours if my shutting down GayPornCenter-since not
one linking code was going to me and figured since 'someone' was
on the take my shutting it
down only lost for the person who was capitalizing on it.

My attorney will be on touch with you and the 'other webmaster' ' who had access to the backend.

And your stories of high electricty bills, tent due, fights with boyfriend etc-- well I paid out on sympathy enough last year. Along with designers for u, helping you start your other site ( didn't know I was populating it and feeding more
money from GPC backend though) yea- lots more evidence an data-

so Jesse- you are drama and you have appeared again out of the woodwork right aftet we shut down GPC and it's links-

very interesting-
thanks for
posting because I was waiting - I don't like to call people out but u left me no choclice- but feells good since me and TAB team figured things out few months ago but I know how
u roll so I just sat patiently.

Barron Holdings, LLC -- u will be hearing from our attorney and believe you will end up owing me a pretty penny that I'd rightfully mine.

I am back in full force and business booming and shutting down GPC and not being able
to serve those
companies for exposure is a sad decision but im the best Interest of them as well as TAB- the channel was cut off.

And technically what occurred with GPC- any sites that were on it were taken for a ride
too as their payouts, info, data, contact etc was freely utilized by 'someone'

Moreover- why were u still using GPC email address in Jan of 2010 when u went MIA on me mid last year aftet asking me for
more money to help u and use my team to help start your other biz which I believe
u owe me percentages on- yep- I know all that too.

If u want to create drama- go for
it.

I have business to do and deals to make and the Phoenix has risen again- you can kick someone when they are down - but
I had enough of that-

I said
on a thread awhile
ago cleaning up and climbing the mountains. 90% complete so far and when I say 'cleaning up' that
Included digging Into each area of
life and I have uncovered a lot
of Interesting happenings.

I just
moved on from u until u busted a move like this which I knew you would so here I am :)

feel free to post whatever u want. Remember I too have examples of
things and then of course all that we discovered. But not wasting my time
posting it here- I have deals waiting and it's been a record month especially in mobile.

Good
luck Jesse- you'll be heating from me again- just not on this thread.

Thanks to everyone who posted - good and bad - at end of the day- this poker hand played beautifully. Again I am not perfect but I know
I stand in my integrity and self respect and I appreciate all those that helped get me on my feet again so that I found the motivation and energy to delve in again and thanks to that support- I uncovered some
major things- Jesse and 'someone else' being a part of what I uncovered - I mean 15,000 hits a month on a site and not
one
payout on my codes? :)
live and Learn- that I have and now I am rocking for all those that were my Rick.

Thank you and have an outstanding day!

Best,
Lori Z.
THE Adult Broker

So- hope u will be prepared to get legal representation -
I

OK that's a long and incoherent and rambling post -- so unlike you.

So you've been "waiting and waiting and waiting" yet you discussed doing some separate biz with me?

As for your site being down -- just checked and it's a parked page. That would mean someone logged into Go Daddy and changed your DNS. You never shared your Go Daddy login info for me ... I never had a need for that. The only thing I had access to was a place to upload reviews I wrote and since I've had access you changed the CMS that you were using. So, passwords probably changed.

Anyway, GoDaddy has a huge legal/fraud department that will help you track that down.

If there was so much to steal, why are you shutting it down?

As for stealing contacts -- if that's the case, why when I was looking for a programmer did I think back to my NDA/non-compete with you and email you saying something along the lines of "hey, your programmer did a good job from what I could tell. I need someone, is it OK to contact him? I don't know how that works with you." You didn't respond and I didn't contact him.

Anyway, your attorney can subpoena my host for those emails.

By the sounds of it, you magically discovered a bunch of stuff awhile ago. Why are you only now mentioning? Why didn't you ask me any questions? Why didn't you respond to an email and say something like fuck off you little prick?

Why? Because you're lying. Plain and simple.

You're also calling me a scammer. Per the rules, post proof. All I accused you of is not paying a bill. If Eric would like the original invoice and screen shots from Epass showing how you paid the first half in October, so be it -- Eric, my email is in my sig.

Meanwhile, show Eric one piece of proof of what you're accusing me off.

You're the one with the shady track record over the last few months. Disappearing ... popping up in Hawaii ... not answering someone that wanted to do biz with you (remember that long thread?) ... excuse, excuse, excuse, excuse.

How about stop making excuses and pay what you owe?

I don't know what has happened to you, but you used to be such a sweet person.

Anyway, please post proof of your allegations. If you will give me permission, I will post the original invoice (since it contains what you may consider a trade secret), a screen shot from Epass showing the first half paid and emails from your crew saying the rest of my money would be forthcoming.

Then, post anything you have on me. Oh, that's nothing, because I didn't do anything except the work you specified in the time you specified and nothing more.

BTW, most of the money you owe me is for The Mobile Broker, not Gay Porn Center ... so nothing you say really makes any sense.

Agent 488 03-22-2010 06:31 PM

why wouldn't you just switch the link codes back instead of killing the site. makes no sense.

also that amount of traffic isn't much over a month. you could easily have no sales in this economy.

Brujah 03-22-2010 06:32 PM

epitome, did you steal her sales by using your own referral codes instead of the ones she gave you to use?

candyflip 03-22-2010 06:34 PM

I think she should post proof or be banned just like anyone else.

She shouldn't get special treatment because she has a pussy and sob story.

Also...I see more allusions to her be a cocaine user. What's with that?

epitome 03-22-2010 06:37 PM

Oh yes, using GPC email address. Apparently, that did happen a few times to people I email just about every day. It was still setup in my Outlook for awhile and when I dropped down the box to select an account I may have selected the wrong one. That account was removed when I was doing some maintenance.

Anyway, go ahead and have your host post those emails. I remember one or two being personal in nature ... another one a mistake in an ongoing conversation where I typed something like "hey, did you register those domains?"

Go ahead and post each and every single one of them since they run through your server ... I have nothing to hide.

As for why I still had email access; I defer that question to you -- why did I? According to you I was some evil person that was trying to bring you down and rob you blind -- why would you leave my email activated? Wouldn't you disable anything I could possibly have access to?

As for no payout ... countless emails back and forth ... me telling you that you have to do something different ... at one point you saying you didn't have the money so maybe you would give me some ownership to make it convert for free ... always suggesting it but never doing anything to give me ownership -- hoping I'd make the changes for free.

Who is my partner?

Anyway, since you haven't gotten a check and you're convinced it was coming to me, you'll be able to trace the money back to me, right?

Adult isn't a porn biz ... there are money trails ... Epass payments trace back to someone ... checks are deposited by someone ...

I have proof that a lot of people had access to that site. You gave access to multiple contractors. You're just trying to blame your problems on someone and I'm that someone because I called you out on your game ... I exposed you as someone that apparently cannot pay a $205 debt and you're seething from it. It's obvious in your post.

Spend all of your money trying to prove something that didn't happen and I'll spend $35 more of mine to get my $205 out of you.

selena 03-22-2010 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16968027)
If you are hurting for $205.00 and you are in the Adult Biz, something is wrong.
Just write if off, no need to bring it to the boards.

Why not?

Why should anyone not expect payment, then bring it to the boards if necessary, no matter whether it is $20.50?

epitome 03-22-2010 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 16968823)
epitome, did you steal her sales by using your own referral codes instead of the ones she gave you to use?

No, and any sponsor can prove that ... so can the money trail (or, based on what she says, lack thereof ... in that case, signup IP's work ... NATS tracks those)

What I can show is that at least four different people had access to that site; all authorized by her.

Plus, let's not forget the fact that she changed that site all around months ago -- the only thing that remained that I ever did was a cut-n-paste job of the reviews that I wrote. Let's say she rebuilt it from the ground up in January (because I don't know) ... why have there been no sales since then? If I didn't have any access, how is that my fault?

epitome 03-22-2010 07:00 PM

As for the magically contacting you after the site is down ... as I understand it, you have fully managed dedicated hosting. That means there should be backups of your server. Nothing is gone because you decided to pull the site unless you order backups destroyed and if you do that, well then that is just shady, isn't it?

I'm sure I'll be thinking of things throughout the night. For the sake of everyone else, I'll try to avoid posting every time I think of how something she said makes zero sense. I can only promise that I'll try not to, not that I will be successful.

Sly 03-22-2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16968880)
As for the magically contacting you after the site is down ... as I understand it, you have fully managed dedicated hosting. That means there should be backups of your server. Nothing is gone because you decided to pull the site unless you order backups destroyed and if you do that, well then that is just shady, isn't it?

I'm sure I'll be thinking of things throughout the night. For the sake of everyone else, I'll try to avoid posting every time I think of how something she said makes zero sense. I can only promise that I'll try not to, not that I will be successful.

Having a dedicated server doesn't mean automatic backups. It is often an additional service that a lot of people do not buy.

MikeHawk 03-22-2010 07:09 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

beemk 03-22-2010 07:10 PM

has anyone actually hired the adult broker and see a decent roi?

AaronM 03-22-2010 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 16968831)
Also...I see more allusions to her be a cocaine user. What's with that?


Punk ass haters. :disgust

baddog 03-22-2010 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 16968887)
Having a dedicated server doesn't mean automatic backups. It is often an additional service that a lot of people do not buy.

A majority don't buy, I'd say.

epitome 03-22-2010 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16968027)
If you are hurting for $205.00 and you are in the Adult Biz, something is wrong.
Just write if off, no need to bring it to the boards.

Dave, I respect you and I agree with what you're saying, so I'll give you the rundown.

In many threads I mention that I used to be in real estate. I've had Crohn's since I was 16. I cannot get health insurance unless I'm working for someone else (not possible unless I get a lot of sick days) because of my pre-existing condition.

Without insurance, you tend to push things with your health until it's too late.

In late October 2008, I pushed it too far and needed a colostomy. There were some complications (hernia around the incision and they couldn't re-operate) with the surgery and I had a hard time getting used to the bag. I went six months without working.

Things were rough and running like I used to for 16 hours a day will never be an option again.

Last April, I thought "I was briefly in the porn biz in '02...let me give that another go." I literally started with two domains and $8 virtual hosting.

In under a year I've grown that into multiple thousands of dollars a month but I'm still a little short each month from being comfortable. There is always one or two bills eating away at me ... this time it's my yearly heating bill ... $1700 due on April 1st and another $600 due 30 days after or they shut off my power. I've got a lot of that covered but still need some more.

I'm at that point where I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I have some amazing things in development, some great ops going on, but the money is just not all the way there yet.

The other day you reminded people that you used to bounce checks. If I had to guess where I am right now, I'm probably at the point you were right when you were writing that last check that was going to bounce. That point where no matter how promising the future is, you still have BIG problems.

I didn't want to give my sob story, but I am one of those people that says "if you're only making X, you shouldn't be in adult." To my credit, I did start in probably the worst year to start and started with $0. In fact, I've spent less than $50 in traffic to date because all of my income goes into regaining the life I had pre-surgery.

Almost there...

That is why $205 can be so important despite being in adult. My traffic growth, ratios and other numbers say I shouldn't go anywhere.

Brujah 03-22-2010 07:18 PM


Wagerboy 03-22-2010 07:21 PM

I dont know either one of the parties but seems like the female got owned by the male. He has all server/email records and sponsor payments to back up he didnt steal. Im thinking the female couldnt afford a public defender, forgot about her "lawyer" contacting the male. Just a surfer POV though...

candyflip 03-22-2010 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16968913)
Dave, I respect you and I agree with what you're saying, so I'll give you the rundown.

In many threads I mention that I used to be in real estate. I've had Crohn's since I was 16. I cannot get health insurance unless I'm working for someone else (not possible unless I get a lot of sick days) because of my pre-existing condition.

Without insurance, you tend to push things with your health until it's too late.

In late October 2008, I pushed it too far and needed a colostomy. There were some complications (hernia around the incision and they couldn't re-operate) with the surgery and I had a hard time getting used to the bag. I went six months without working.

Things were rough and running like I used to for 16 hours a day will never be an option again.

Last April, I thought "I was briefly in the porn biz in '02...let me give that another go." I literally started with two domains and $8 virtual hosting.

In under a year I've grown that into multiple thousands of dollars a month but I'm still a little short each month from being comfortable. There is always one or two bills eating away at me ... this time it's my yearly heating bill ... $1700 due on April 1st and another $600 due 30 days after or they shut off my power. I've got a lot of that covered but still need some more.

I'm at that point where I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I have some amazing things in development, some great ops going on, but the money is just not all the way there yet.

The other day you reminded people that you used to bounce checks. If I had to guess where I am right now, I'm probably at the point you were right when you were writing that last check that was going to bounce. That point where no matter how promising the future is, you still have BIG problems.

I didn't want to give my sob story, but I am one of those people that says "if you're only making X, you shouldn't be in adult." To my credit, I did start in probably the worst year to start and started with $0. In fact, I've spent less than $50 in traffic to date because all of my income goes into regaining the life I had pre-surgery.

Almost there...

That is why $205 can be so important despite being in adult. My traffic growth, ratios and other numbers say I shouldn't go anywhere.

Wow. You have real actual health problems.

Lori had a breakdown and people were taking up donations.

beemk 03-22-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 16968921)
Wow. You have real actual health problems.

Lori had a breakdown and people were taking up donations.

yeah, because she has a vagina.


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