Great, is going to go up without healthcare going up.... we will need healthy people to rebuild the nation.

They aren't forcing you.... if you want to buy it from an insurance company, then do so... if you don't want to buy it, then you don't get the rebate..

No big deal.

You aren't required to pay in.... if you choose not to have any insurance at all, you don't get a rebate... ie you pay in through taxes, could be a sales tax.. and they want to give you a refund if you opt-in for the insurance plan - otherwise it's like a fine and you don't get your money back.

The post office, Medicare, highways, railways, etc run perfectly fine. Without the post office, business across the country would fail - UPS and Fedex do not send mail. UPS and Fedex are under the same federal rules as the post office because it's your packages.

yea man

cause all the peeps iwth the master degrees in business and the phds in economics.. never.. thought.. to.. use.. statistics..

Imagine if a state wins a case. How many hundreds of thousands of citizens will leave immediately for a state that lets them get care in their own country? I mean, it makes one wonder if they're really thinking past their noses. Do you think everyone is rich and healthy enough to buy insurance, but they just dont want to?

If your state doesnt participate, then your citizens dont get the benefit, and you doom your entire state health care system into the old way until they all leave as well for greener pastures. There is no "winning" via knee-jerk lawsuit.

Once again the marxist nation destroyers win. They SHOULD win because their opposition has allowed themselves to become too fat, lazy, and stupid to mount a decent defense.

Now comes the amnesty for 12 million or more illegal aliens. And how many family members will each of those 12 million illegals sponsor? It is really over now, just a matter of time.

Wow, they really did destroy this country in about 50 years. This is proof that a small number of people working together as a team can really change the world in a short amount of time. Obama is just a tool who was groomed by elites to do exactly what he is doing now. They have such a tight leash on this guy that he does not even speak at a Kindergarten class without his trusty dual tele-prompters. I would not be shocked at all to see Obama "taken out" so as to create more division between blacks and whites. Divide and conquer is the name of the game. Congrats to the winners I guess.

Uh, nobody would leave, keep lying to yourself.

Best post I have seen on GFY in a long time. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

I would say modern liberalism helped destroy our country, with a lot of jackass politicians. Don't worry, they'll die out eventually.

Uh, why do you even bother wasting board space for posts like this?

You really arent making sense there. Nation destroyers is a reckless comment and you have nothing but your own fear to base it on.

Amnesty for illegals? Yes, the past couple of decades has been strict on illegal aliens. Thats why Walmart gets busted hiring them. Thats why in every news clip showing farm workers harvesting, they all have hoods pulled over their faces and hats on their heads. Pay attention. Thats why corrupt american companies hire them for pennies instead of paying a real wage and hiring fellow americans. You know what, it's too easy. Leave it at this: How was your 8 years of republican leadership on illegal aliens and reforming the immigration system?

And all this fear talk about Obama like he's a manufactured bot set loose on an innocent country in order to destroy it. All just talk. All born of fear. Whipped up fear in a frenzy of tantrum from a baby called the republican party. The minority party throwing a major tantrum because they picked wrong and didnt get any sweet deals in this new bill that became law. Tough shit. Better luck next time.

I would ask you the same thing, except you wouldn't "Get it".

Yes, tough shit. Enjoy the health care bill that'll never see the light of day:)
Btw, I love the "Fear mongering" double standard. When Obama fucks up, he doesn't really fuck up, the Republicans make it look that way!! Idiot

Once again The Demon types words that make no impact.

It's already a law, dimwit.

A law which doesn't go into effect until 2014, and that's assuming it doesn't get repealed by then. Tom once again proves his ignorance and stupidity.

Illegal alien problems in any country can be fixed really easily. Bust anyone....and I do mean anyone...who hires them and pays them money. Make is hurt and the cross border traffic will drop drastically. However, this cheap labor sustains what otherwise be an unaffordable lifestyle. Consumer services and food prices would rise. Either that, or citizens would have to work for less. The law of unintended consequences would kick in.

weekly, I completely agree!

The Demon, this law doesnt wait until 2014 to go into effect, but I didnt expect you to be up on even the simplest facts. I give up on you, troll away.

Good luck with that. When they do raids to bust illegals here, people complain it is racial profiling. They should just make a guest worker program like they have mentioned many times.

Let them come. Simply make a robust enforcement of CURRENT laws. How could anyone have a problem with that?

Awww that means Tom is full of shit. Let me dumb it down for you since it's impossible that you'll understand it any other way. The bulk of the health care bill doesn't go into effect until 2014. Watch this moron's head explode LOL

My point is bust the employer and cut off the source of funding. When you have "guest workers" it just compounds the problem. You either want cheap labor or you don't.

I gave up on him days ago when I realized he is only a troll and has nothing to do with this business.

And we gave up on you weeks ago when you realized it's nearly impossible to be as dumb as you. :thumbsup

Oh Demon you silly hick, you are no different than they. You are merely the opposite side of the same retarded coin.

No one will immediately leave for XXXX state if it wins for the simple reason that if one state "wins", they all "win" and this law will probably be repealed.

Hahaha sure thing, tool. :)

Tell me, is everyone on here paid by post for the "stick your head in the sand and whistle out your asshole because you think someone else is going to pay your way" support, or is that just where the cards fall?

Yeah, and someday they will clone dinosaurs.

That is a good point and true (sorry everyone that does not understand this) but I really think conservatives will have a hard time repealing this law and running on repealing it. The democrats seem to have some sort of party unity going on here and Obama has set the tone... dems will make republicans looks like they are trying to take away all the good things in the bill :2 cents:


spaz

You aren't dealing with someone who has the brains to be realistic.

They have November and 2012 elections. Speaking of unity, the republicans are pretty much fully united, whereas Democrats keep fighting amongst each other.

Where to begin...

1. What you describe with the states has been happening for years. People have been fleeing the high tax, semi-socialist republics of Massachusetts, California, Michigan, etc. for other states with less government burden. The people who are going to these aforementioned states are in fact looking for the handouts you mention. So it is already happening... unfortunately these states are losing more productive victims (tax payers) to the other states so they are close to bankruptcy.

2. I am rich and healthy and have not had health insurance for most of my life. It is an educated choice based on age, health, and statistics - The same variables insurance companies use to determine my rate. So, to answer your question, Yes... there are a lot of people who can afford it but choose not to have insurance. These same people do not want to pay for other people's medical coverage. Keeping in mind that the poor and elderly already get their medical expenses covered via Medicaid and Medicare.

Maintenance of life, at the expense of someone else, is not a right...

Amen to that ^

An intelligent and sensible response, as always from PR_Tom :thumbsup

It is this kind of logic that makes moron trolls like the demon grasp for straws, sling insults, and attempt to spin another GOP defeat into something that makes no sense, as usual.

If you looked at ranking based based solely on quality, The US is tops and that is indisputable
what does that tell us? to me it reads like this: anyone with a fat wallet is treated at
high standards - but what does it mean to the ones in misfortune?

DANG! the RICH ... re-read it ... the RICH may come to US for special surgeries or such ...
but, look at from a different angle: a not so wealthy couple with a 18 months old baby with
a heart malfunction and NO insurance ... let it die? :mad: what has happened to the social
thought in the US? if THAT is christianity and compassion preaching i sure as hell ask myself
what happened?

IN GOD WE TRUST - THE DOLLAR IS OUR LUST

oh, and ...
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :2 cents:

And we fall right into their trap when we buy into the idea that the republican party is any better than the Dems.

Oh Demon, the solace a life of non-sequitur must bring. Watching you bumblefuck your way around an argument brings me joy. Dont get me wrong, I would like to see everyone you argue with dead, their families weeping on the edge of an open trench before the sweet release of a 9 mm thesis statement. But you... you have a special place in my heart. Your suffering would last an eternity.

And this type of post puts BFT3K in the "top 5 dumbest people on GFY" category. As usual, thanks for making us laugh BFT3k:)

That day is not too far off but just because you can do it does not mean you should

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