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andrej_NDC 03-28-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kush (Post 16986292)
Not everything in mainstream requires a credit card... including some of the most profitable, most competitive niches.

Ok, you got me there. I'm clueless in that.

andrej_NDC 03-28-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16985808)
Lots... but the biggest was understanding that money isn't made just on a webpage online. The traffic you have right now is willing to buy at least 4x more than now, always... and 'selling' people, even things they want, means less money. You need them to attach to you, so you can sell them forever, any flavor of porn or any product - and not just this single page right now.

Can it be implemented on paysites?

Semi-Retired-Dave 03-28-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16985961)
quick google shows music sales down 10-20 percent last few years although digital sales up.

That was my point, even with all the Music File Sharing and free downloads, Music is still up in sales, same with Mainstream Movies.

Why can't the same be for our industry?

Agent 488 03-28-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16986575)
That was my point, even with all the Music File Sharing and free downloads, Music is still up in sales, same with Mainstream Movies.

Why can't the same be for our industry?

no overall sales are down still. even paid digital formats can't bring it back.

andrej_NDC 03-28-2010 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16986575)
That was my point, even with all the Music File Sharing and free downloads, Music is still up in sales, same with Mainstream Movies.

Why can't the same be for our industry?

Its not the shitty music and shitty mainstream movies that are up. I think thats it.

AaronM 03-28-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16984991)
We killed our own industry.


Yep. :2 cents:

will76 03-28-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16984991)

How are people blaming Tax season over slow sales?

.

because they are ignorant and always looking for something to blame slow sales on.

The only way "tax season" could affect our sales is if all of our customers were accountants and they were too busy working to be able to look at porn.

will76 03-28-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lace (Post 16985028)
Hence the reason I may be leaving adult. We kill our own industry then bitch about how conversions are basically non-existent.

It's dumb, very dumb. We did it to ourselves, plain and simple.

"We" being loosely used. Some of us here did, some of us didn't. 95% of my advertising over the last 10+ years was non nude. The only nudity I really use is on tgps advertising and plugging rss feeds into blog sites.

But I can thank the rest of you for killing it for me too :winkwink:


However, as much as we talk about tube sites, full length videos etc... my sales have dropped over the last couple years and I attribute it more to the credit card crunch, people being maxed out, their available credit being reduced, people losing their jobs and buring up their credit cards etc....

99% of our sales hinge on credit card transactions going through. That is where I feel (at least for me promoting cam sites) the biggest cause of the reduction of signups has come from.

TheDoc 03-28-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16986316)
Can it be implemented on paysites?

Of course... paysites do offer some different challenges, however they also have unique money holes that many companies simply don't know about, some big ones too.

Most programs are busy creating kick ass content/experiences for members and dealing with affiliates. Which is what they should be doing. But, because of that dedication they often miss the money holes that aren't always talked about or fully understood.

Hit me up next week sometime and I will gladly share more information with you.. webmaster.skills at gmail dot com

raymor 03-29-2010 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 16985560)
Because if those 30 second clips are done right they have more selling power than any 10 minute clip ever possibly could achieve. That is, if you are actually trying to sell the item the trailer is advertising.

There are differences in mainstream and adult films yes, but at the core what makes you go see or rent a movie? A great 30 second- 1 minute trailer. Thats it, no more.

The biggest difference between adult and mainstream, when it comes to clip length, is that
nobody watches a two hour porn film. They are watching while jacking, so they only watch
or ten to twenty minutes anyway - long enough to bust a nut. If they can bust a nut for free,
watching ten minute clips, there's no reason to buy anything.

Agent 488 03-29-2010 06:43 AM

50 things that will never happen.

andrej_NDC 03-29-2010 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16987210)
Of course... paysites do offer some different challenges, however they also have unique money holes that many companies simply don't know about, some big ones too.

Most programs are busy creating kick ass content/experiences for members and dealing with affiliates. Which is what they should be doing. But, because of that dedication they often miss the money holes that aren't always talked about or fully understood.

Hit me up next week sometime and I will gladly share more information with you.. webmaster.skills at gmail dot com

I will email you, thanks.

datatank 03-29-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16987210)
Of course... paysites do offer some different challenges, however they also have unique money holes that many companies simply don't know about, some big ones too.

Most programs are busy creating kick ass content/experiences for members and dealing with affiliates. Which is what they should be doing. But, because of that dedication they often miss the money holes that aren't always talked about or fully understood.

Hit me up next week sometime and I will gladly share more information with you.. webmaster.skills at gmail dot com



Hello Doc.
What is a "money hole" I have never heard of this saying

Agent 488 03-29-2010 11:28 AM

like a glory hole.

Semi-Retired-Dave 03-29-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16987998)
50 things that will never happen.

Now that's positive thinking. :Oh crap

andrej_NDC 03-29-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank (Post 16988732)
Hello Doc.
What is a "money hole" I have never heard of this saying

I would guess it means not monetizing traffic as it could have been monetized.


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