WOw....thx for the info!

As far as the next pay date coming and going, it's actually not due yet, only the 6th today, so there's a couple of days for them to make it.

I'm sorry to those that aren't getting paid, maybe it's some of the bigger webmasters that they're taking care of and not paying some of the smaller guys. I'm just posting how they've treated me. I've got a webmaster friend that also got paid around the same time as me and his payment was extremely big.

:thumbsup looks like a good one!

From their homepage...

sales sent 1st-15th of the month
payouts sent on 4th

sales sent 16th-31st of the month
payouts sent on 21st

I'm happy you got paid; I wasn't because of a NATS issue.

So I'm confused, you don't like cross sales, or you don't like big payouts, which is it?

Getting my payments on time.. And i believe they only have merchant and segpay so that stuff probably isn't even applicable as i see joins come in for both merc and segpay.

This was done by an old employee and I was not aware of this. First off we don't even have ACH Check, PureVanilla, TrustCash, NetCash, Password By Phone, CCbill, SEGpay and any other 3rd Party, Prepaid, or Dialer Biller. Never have.

Only Segpay and merchant period. This is not correct and is being changed now.

For payments we were swtiching to webmasterchckes and then you know what happened..but all checks and wires are 1200% up to date..just epasses partial batch which should be out this morning.

Ouch, and that statement is comming from a sponsor ... :Oh crap
So fraud is ok as long as ya make more money? Is that what ya say?

Lemme explain some things to you ... A sponsor is responsible to have a good quality membersarea. 95% of all chargebacks happen because the members ain't happy about what they've paid for. Whos fault is that? The affiliate ?????????

When I send you a PPS sale then it is YOUR responsibility to make that you convert him. And then still some assholes dare to take the fee back from the affiliate after someone did a chargeback.

When the signup was a fraud then no problem .. but when the member did a chargeback because he found a memberarea nothing to do with all promised on the paysite then I'm not amused.

And no I don't check membersareas on PPS .. I don't give a fuck ... thats why it is PPS.
When the memberarea is ok and I believe in a good rebill for that product then ofcourse I go refshare.

PPS payout rates need to be calculated by the sponsor based on the average rebills per signup.

So high PPS payouts are possible WHEN they have a high rebill %. Ya can only have that with a fucking great members area.

Other sponsors have the same PPS payouts, but they don't give a fuck about their membersarea. They use other "tactics" to get give high payouts and to get what they want.

In this case it doesn't matter if they use this tactics or not ... fact is that they have a rule in their terms witch they can use against you whenever they want. If you tell me they don't do it, then why do they have it in their "terms" to start with? Maybe only to a certain group of affiliates? ... I don't say it is, I say it is possible.
Again who wrote those terms? And for what reason?

Just my :2 cents:

Look dude, I don't promote your program. I was just checking it out the other day and it took my attention. Man you only have 10 rules in your terms so it is not that this 1 term was buried at page 15 in the middle of 50 other terms.

But if ya say it is a mistake then who am I.


I know that most people never read the terms when they sign up as an affiliate.
But as ya can see sometimes people agree with "special" things without knowing.

:Oh crap

So what you're saying is a rouge employee wrote your TOS for you in a way that didn't apply to your business?

Your TOS is a legal contract between your company and your affiliates, not something that should be left up to just any employee to craft on their own.

Don't know you guys, not trying to come at you, but REALLY?

IF this rouge employee theory is truth, are we supposed to believe these terms that don't apply to your business model came out of the sky?

So I guess the real question is this:

Are you guys the same company as SoloConverts or did you just copy pasta their TOS?

http://www.soloconverts.com/terms.html

What do you fucking think?!

What I can't like big PPS without fucking cross sales? NastyDollars does $100 days and do you see their fucking join pages loaded with cross sales below the submit button? No, you dont. I have nothing against cross sales if they are clear to the surfer.

I signed up because I heard about the $100 PPS Fridays. At that time I hadn't even looked at their join pages. I sent only a few hundred hits before I stopped the ads.

wow thats fucked. i was just creating a new ex-gf site and NOT using them :1orglaugh

We have no relation to Soloconverts at all. And I don't know who wrote the T&C. I was made aware of this yesterday. We don't even have any of those billing options, so whoever added those terms was not informed and made a mistake.

Well, here's the heads up- your TOS for your AFL program is WORD for WORD the TOS of Solo Converts-

http://www.gfprofits.com/terms.html

http://www.soloconverts.com/terms.html

That's more than a "mistake". :2 cents:

Either the companies are related or your company knowingly plagerized their TOS.

Thats a nice login box on SoloConverts. I like the one on TeenCash.com a little better. :winkwink:

One more reason that I like CC Bill.

I would never join such a program.

I think you don't care about xsales as long as you are getting paid, unless there is GFY drama.

WOW - Steer fucking clear of GF PROFITS!

Not true...chargebacks are almost the same on a bad and good members area.

I only promote one out of that list because I have an inside interest.

thank you....

we're riding the gfprofits hate train today ....

exposed pwned .....


Shady ass shit for new webmasters getting into the game.

Well you thought wrong. Thats what you get for making half assed assumptions. :321GFY

What do you call a good members area? Because maybe what you call "good" is still shit for me.

Pornguy, the nats links for Me And My Gfs isn't working for me:

http://secure.meandmygfs.com/track/MTE2MzozOjQ4/

Oops! Firefox could not find secure.meandmygfs.com

everyone knows you are the same company. don't have to lie dude.

I would not be surprised if that were true. He already back tracked, went from the person who wrote the TOS being a "former employee" to having no idea who wrote it. :1orglaugh

Honestly, coming clean that they are the same company is a hell of alot better than having everyone think you just went and ripped shit someone else's affiliate program.

How dare you apply logic and reasoning to this situation. The poor guy is just trying to screw people out of their money :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

First off I became the affiliate manager on April 1st. I don't know who wrote it. I just know it was someone before I was hired. So it would have been another employee. I already explained we don't even have any of those billers. So that clause was incorrect and doesn't apply.

Nobody should promote this kind of fuckers....

INCREDIBLE!!!!

I know, I just can't help myself sometimes. :winkwink:

Better get a clue who you work for before coming here and getting pwned. Either you work for SoloConverts or you work for plagiarists, and from one of the other threads it seems your employers are content thieves as well. Do you really want to be defending them blindly? Inquiring minds want to know - is your company SoloConverts or just filthy plagiarists?

The more likely scenario is that whomever was putting their affiliate program together was lazy and simply copied the TOS from soloconverts, you'd be surprised how often I've seen this.

Wow, if I used that list I wouldn't have any sponsors left. State of the Industry or is the list a bit aggressive?

Wow. You didnt just say that right. You as a sponsor (or flying a sponsors sig) are saying that its ok to shave? Because of what reason? Because they are making you a bit more money they can fraud? Amazing... I hope you know what that says about the company/program you have there.

Dont want to burst your ethical bubble. But im betting that as long as you make more money you dont care about the surfer and you dont give a 2 cents how they do it.

Not true. If you have a good tour that represents the membersarea, and that membersarea is filled with the stuff the surfers is looking for you will see a lot less cb's and refunds.

What would you do when you see a tour with videos you like, you pay, and once inside you cant find what you are looking for.

Again, thats a weird statement for a sponsor to make...

I didn't say shaving is ok, I never did it and I was running a program for 4-5 years. But as an affiliate, I only care about who makes me the most money, I do not work to make unknown people happy, I work to make money.



You are running a program for a few months, no way to know anything about CBs yet. I didn't have any CB for the first 6 months or so, then they started coming in, but I was always at 0.5%, no matter what members area I was testing.

CB = fraud
Refund = unhappy member

Also, you might want to respond to this:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=966672

And what makes you think that? Do you know me? Have I ever spoken to you before? No.

You know nothing! Have I sent surfers to bad sites before? Yes, I'm sure I have. And do I pull links if I notice it. Yes, I do.

I mainly run non-adult sites. I am not hurting for money. I don't need to screw my surfers. Put out a good product and they'll pay for it and keep paying for it. There is no need to screw them. You should know that.

IF YOU OR YOUR BUDDY FUZE SAY IT AGAIN YOU BETTER POST PROOF!

Dude listen .. You are wrong. Plain simpel.
Again do you have any idea what a membersarea gives the label "outstanding" ?

TIP: a lot of content does not mean the same as a good members area.


Also you state that CB = fraud & Refund = unhappy member

LOL Who are you ? Santa Claus ? Do you realy believe everything?

When people want their money back then they do a chargeback .. only a small % of the chargebacks are done because of real cc fraud.

Maybe they "say" it was fraud because a chargeback will always return their money ... 100% ... always.

So they say whatever they have to say.

I even tell you a bit more .. 7 out of 10 times when someone signs up as a member hes fucked in the ass and doesn't get what he paid for (besides the fact hes ripped an extra $80 because of the cross sales) . What would you do huh?


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For me it's simpel when I see "one" chargeback from a sponsor when I do PPS with him then it ends .. It doesn't matter if I do $40 or $50.000 in sales with him on a yearly base ... chargebacks is "a no no" with PPS ... PERIOD.

It's time sponsors realize THEY NEED AFFILIATES & traffic. Not the other way around. I can dump a sponsor in a sec and I just replace him with a new one. Only takes a couple seconds. Sponsors can't say that.

Weird how some sponsors act like they are king shit of fuck mauntain.


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